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Fair point, I had it in my head the NBA was using this already. Maybe I'm getting tests mixed up.The FDA just greenlit the Quidel test like 5 days ago, give the NFL a break.
Fair point, I had it in my head the NBA was using this already. Maybe I'm getting tests mixed up.The FDA just greenlit the Quidel test like 5 days ago, give the NFL a break.
So again; using a bad thing to set a bad precedent so that bad things keep happening.I disagree with much of what you wrote. We all could’ve foreseen this prior to the season starting so mid-season rule changes shouldn’t be needed. Just poor planning on the part of leagues that didn’t think of this. There was potential for this to happen to every/any NFL team, hence the bad luck. There isn’t an agenda to target specific teams
Thanks for the insight.Not one of them has been positive so it's solely about rule breaking and informing of rules.
The Titans (as you quoted me) probs have been asymptomatic people spreading and (if we ignore docs n tests and all the NFL offers) in real life we'd just be calling that bad luck. Your wife has no symptoms but gives you coronavirus you're probably thinking bad luck because you would of course have your guard down around her while out in public you're all cognizant of every potential way. Similarly, the Titans were (started before workout) following protocols and getting negative tests so they felt safe in their controlled environment on the team plane.
I couldn't be more in favor of using that 15 minute Quidel test. Test em every hour, morning noon and night....go nuts. This 24 hour test is not cutting it
And in college 1-2 players come in contact with a ton more then NFL players do. Va Tech played on, Florida is asking to have 90k fans next week.Because those 1 or 2 guys have been in close contact with the 60 other guys?
Just curious if eating dinner should be considered a violation of league protocols. I brought this up in other threads. Neither player had tested positive at that point. If the league does not want folks doing daily activities of living, then force them to all live in hotels and make bubbles. There is a huge difference in what NE has done to contain things compared to TEN. They have been hosting players at a hotel at the stadium. They have canceled in person practices when they haven’t had to. They tried to warn the league that forcing them to play against KC could make The situation worse. They have been consistently wearing masks and taking things seriously. They split up their personnel into different planes when they went to KC to keep people that had been in close proximity to Cam away from the others. There is no fool proof way to keep the virus from spreading, no matter what the protocols are.I had read on Twitter that Gilmore and Newton had dinner together during the week
What is your league’s plan if a positive test or two happen and the Chargers/Saints game gets postponed. I guess owners of players in that game are SOL?So again; using a bad thing to set a bad precedent so that bad things keep happening.
the epitome of bad management.
I prefer to be proactive with my league & fix a problem so it doesn't keep hurting folks.
and we voted for it, then implemented it when a game was first announced as being in jeopardy, long before it was cancelled last week. Since nothing had happened prior to that, we collectively had no idea this was how the league would handle it.
no one knew that, so contrary to your assertion that we should all be psychic, we didn’t implement it in the preseason. You simply cannot anticipate everything. We planned for cancellations (extra roster moves, 2 IR spots, etc). We did not plan for games being moved from Sunday to Monday to possibly Tuesday to maybe being cancelled.
To suggest this was a failure of our league’s planning is beyond preposterous.
And? You actually think this is an acceptable solution?And in college 1-2 players come in contact with a ton more then NFL players do. Va Tech played on, Florida is asking to have 90k fans next week.
College is moving on and time to the NFL to do the same. If a player tests positive he don’t play. WTF we shutting everything down for a 1 PS player testing positive?
Same contingency plan. They have to post up what their subs are before the subs play.What is your league’s plan if a positive test or two happen and the Chargers/Saints game gets postponed. I guess owners of players in that game are SOL?
Even if the news of positive tests breaks after all the other games are done? You are allowing owners of players in that game to send you a list even though it’s not currently in jeopardy?Same contingency plan. They have to post up what their subs are before the subs play.
It’s a PITA for me to make the swaps after the fact, but it’s a pretty simple solution.
How is that possible now? Again, if I understand HSG, you'd have the sub request only for games on Monday or Tuesday/games that had been rescheduled and are in danger of being postponed off that week. The request would be before kickoff Sunday.Even if the news of positive tests breaks after all the other games are done? You are allowing owners of players in that game to send you a list even though it’s not currently in jeopardy?
No. Teams have to post contingency players before kickoffs.Even if the news of positive tests breaks after all the other games are done? You are allowing owners of players in that game to send you a list even though it’s not currently in jeopardy?
Is it impossible for a player playing tomorrow night to test positive between 4:00 today and game time tomorrow? I’m not sure.How is that possible now?
It’s not, because testing is done early in the day, but I get what they’re saying. It is theoretically possible a player falls ill before kickoff resulting in a last min cancellation.How is that possible now?
I’ve got Latavius in for MNF and I’ll decide before kickoff that night whether to bench him for Henry on Tuesday, if it’s looking good.Y’all still taking the risk on Buf/Ten players this week or moving on?
I agree with this completely. Only thing I would be obstinate about is no changing the rules for Week 5 - if not already implemented then no mid stream changes. But for Week 6 and going forward I would have no problem with making a change like most have proposed as long as a majority of the league approved.I think there's too many people who are of the opinion that "well we didn't have this rule last week so I'm against having that kind of rule change now". That's a very odd sentiment during a time where the NFL is changing everything (remember: every comment from NFL higher ups has started with "It's a fluid situation"), why do we as fantasy commishes have to be rigid? The best leagues are the ones that are hands off but when there's an issue move quickly and decisively to address it and close off loopholes.
After extensive thought, I have Henry in one spot where I *really* don't have anything else that's going to help me get a win, and I really need one. I'm leaving him in my lineup. I think the news about the staffer being out of the building is actually quite encouraging. Plus the risk of having a 2nd bye for Ten is going to be very high priority for the NFL.Y’all still taking the risk on Buf/Ten players this week or moving on?
This is the classic project manager approach. Flexibility is key. When an unforeseen circumstance happens, take proactive measures to resolve before it becomes a bigger problem:I think there's too many people who are of the opinion that "well we didn't have this rule last week so I'm against having that kind of rule change now". That's a very odd sentiment during a time where the NFL is changing everything (remember: every comment from NFL higher ups has started with "It's a fluid situation"), why do we as fantasy commishes have to be rigid? The best leagues are the ones that are hands off but when there's an issue move quickly and decisively to address it and close off loopholes. If the commish doesn't want to do the work have him anoint a co-commish to track that stuff.
"......which is tied to Tennessee being able to play..." lol
Couldn't disagree more. Anything less than unanimous vote for any in-season changes is just wrong.I agree with this completely. Only thing I would be obstinate about is no changing the rules for Week 5 - if not already implemented then no mid stream changes. But for Week 6 and going forward I would have no problem with making a change like most have proposed as long as a majority of the league approved.
We are on CBS so everyone is defaulting to Eisenberg's weekly ranking as a default. If you want to prioritize differently, you need to do so via dm to your opponent and the commish. If a game is canceled/rescheduled then next man up is taken and inserted.Even if the news of positive tests breaks after all the other games are done? You are allowing owners of players in that game to send you a list even though it’s not currently in jeopardy?
That's been my observation for many, many years. As HSG has said a couple times in this thread, I don't understand why making a change to mitigate a problem is so hard for some people to get on board with. Selfishness, I guess.I think there's too many people who are of the opinion that "well we didn't have this rule last week so I'm against having that kind of rule change now".
I’m thinking they push that one through."......which is tied to Tennessee being able to play..." lol
In my Superflex league where we have provisional lineups, I have Allen in the lineup but posted a contingency in case that game doesn't happen.Y’all still taking the risk on Buf/Ten players this week or moving on?
People that take it serious can catch the virus too.I think it's possible that the Tenn coach didn't catch it from his team, but from the community. Without getting political, some people take this more serious than others. Feels to me like there may be an organizational culture with the Titans to downplay. That's all I'm going to say about that.
I would do that if I didn’t have to drop anyone of consequenceI am thinking I may pick up Bridgewater and play him over Josh Allen. Only reason I am tempted to keep Allen in is because my opponent currently has Henry in.
Chances are the owners voting against it are doing so only because they are not immediately affected, which is even more short sighted.Couldn't disagree more. Anything less than unanimous vote for any in-season changes is just wrong.
Chances are the "majority" approving the change are ones being directly affected by postponed/delayed games. That's a skewed incentive to vote for an adjustment.
Beyond that you are punishing "no change" members for honoring what they agreed to at the beginning of the season.
Moved Henry to Flex and dropped a patriots player for a WR in the NO/SD game on MNF. If there is news officially moving BUF/TEN out of this week before the second slate of games today, I can flex in a guy playing later today. If there is news tomorrow, I'll flex in the NO/SD player.Y’all still taking the risk on Buf/Ten players this week or moving on?
Do it. Bridgewater has a great matchup this week.I am thinking I may pick up Bridgewater and play him over Josh Allen. Only reason I am tempted to keep Allen in is because my opponent currently has Henry in.
Easy to brute force it I guess when the players have zero leverage. Don't worry about the downstream effects. Next man up!Yes.
24 positive tests in one organization isn’t bad luck or testing issues, it’s a failure to establish and follow good protocols.Not one of them has been positive so it's solely about rule breaking and informing of rules.
The Titans (as you quoted me) probs have been asymptomatic people spreading and (if we ignore docs n tests and all the NFL offers) in real life we'd just be calling that bad luck. Your wife has no symptoms but gives you coronavirus you're probably thinking bad luck because you would of course have your guard down around her while out in public you're all cognizant of every potential way. Similarly, the Titans were (started before workout) following protocols and getting negative tests so they felt safe in their controlled environment on the team plane.
I couldn't be more in favor of using that 15 minute Quidel test. Test em every hour, morning noon and night....go nuts. This 24 hour test is not cutting it
I now know 2 people I who have caught it, both took it seriously.People that take it serious can catch the virus too.
Doesn't matter. Make an agreement. Honor it. YMMV.Chances are the owners voting against it are doing so only because they are not immediately affected, which is even more short sighted.
I think it’s time to get our lives back.And? You actually think this is an acceptable solution?
The least shocking thing possibleDoes anyone else find it unsurprising that the NFL has no real plan ahead of time and is making all this up as they go?
They've got to the point where they just have to make it happen.I’m thinking they push that one through.
*COVID-19 likes this post*I think it’s time to get our lives back.
Indeed. It doesn't appear the Titans fall in that group.People that take it serious can catch the virus too.
I’m sure if DT and Chris Christie can survive Covid, I’m sure the NFL players, refs, and coaches will be ok*COVID-19 likes this post*