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1 hour ago, BoltBacker said:

Agreed.

And if anyone disagrees with me please watch the Saints vs broncos game from start to finish before you post how the nfl is "actually handling this season pretty well.... (*)".

Huh? The NFL appears to have successfully prevented Covid from spreading on the field during that game. That’s a win for them.

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1 hour ago, BoltBacker said:

Agreed.

And if anyone disagrees with me please watch the Saints vs broncos game from start to finish before you post how the nfl is "actually handling this season pretty well.... (*)".

This is only an issue for their inconsistency. They can't say D need needs to play as scheduled while allowing Baltimore a full 6 days to get their game in and then eventually just playing it as is anyway. If they would have made Baltimore play Thanksgiving or even Sunday, it wouldn't be an issue. 

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1 minute ago, Insein said:

This is only an issue for their inconsistency. They can't say D need needs to play as scheduled while allowing Baltimore a full 6 days to get their game in and then eventually just playing it as is anyway. If they would have made Baltimore play Thanksgiving or even Sunday, it wouldn't be an issue. 

That’s crazy. Baltimore would have played with several players carrying the virus Thanksgiving. And the NFL/Ravens would have been blamed for cancer recoverer James Conner getting the virus a couple days later.

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1 minute ago, Cobbler1 said:

That’s crazy. Baltimore would have played with several players carrying the virus Thanksgiving. And the NFL/Ravens would have been blamed for cancer recoverer James Conner getting the virus a couple days later.

Play as is. That's what they made Denver do. Either that or allow Denver to wait a day to be able to have 1 QB available.

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7 minutes ago, Insein said:

Play as is. That's what they made Denver do. Either that or allow Denver to wait a day to be able to have 1 QB available.

NFL cares primarily about the spread of the virus or perceived spread of the virus on the field. Denver situation was vastly different from the Ravens. If they hold the Ravens game Thursday and 2 days later high risk Andrews and high risk Conner test positive for Covid that is the exact scenario they want to avoid. 

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33 minutes ago, Cobbler1 said:

NFL cares primarily about the spread of the virus or perceived spread of the virus on the field. Denver situation was vastly different from the Ravens. If they hold the Ravens game Thursday and 2 days later high risk Andrews and high risk Conner test positive for Covid that is the exact scenario they want to avoid. 

Same could happen after every game. Why didn't they allow Denver a day to see if the positives were false or went away?

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15 minutes ago, Insein said:

Same could happen after every game. Why didn't they allow Denver a day to see if the positives were false or went away?

The chances would be elevated after a game played while a team was in the middle of a massive outbreak. Even if you somehow disagree with that statement the public perception would be greater towards blaming the NFL if additional players tested positive following a game they allowed to happen with a team in the midst of an outbreak.


Why didn’t they allow a day for Denver to see if the positives were false? Well first off my understanding was that it was a positive Thursday or Friday so time did pass before Sunday to allow for the possibility of a false positive. But the positive was deemed to be real and the close contacts had to isolate for I believe 5 days per the NFL’s protocol. Could they have waited until Tuesday to play the game so the close contacts could have cleared? I guess so. But the NFL has made clear they don’t care about how this affects a team’s competitiveness on game day. They care about the likelihood/perceived likelihood of on field transmission. And there was a stark difference between Baltimore and Denver recent outbreaks/incidents in regards to that.

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If Denver wanted a QB so bad for that game, maybe they should have valued the position more by not being reckless about it. I consider this Denver situation the harshest example the NFL has set yet, but maybe finally the message will sink in. Should have happened everywhere back in April but yeah whatever #### masks we're gonna do whatever we want. Ok well now you get to put up Hinton then. 

I'm not going to say the NFL is doing a good job or a consistent one. The Ravens game had to get bumped or risk further spread. Not so with the Denver game. I wouldn't have complained if they'd given them another day to get a QB active but not sure that has happened before and maybe a dangerous precedent. 

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To @barackdhouse's point:

From a Peter King column: The NFL will move a game for medical reasons, but not for competitive reasons.  So if Denver breaks protocol and gets all their QBs on the COVID list, but there's no elevated risk on the rest of the team, NFL won't delay their game.

But Baltimore was having a team-wide outbreak, which would have led to higher risk of further spread if the game was played. That's why their game was moved.

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I agree that it would have been more equitable, without much of a downside except for inconveniencing the Saints, to push the game to Tuesday, when three of the Denver quarterbacks, had they continued to test negative, would have been eligible to play because they’d have tested negative for five days since last being in close contact with the positive player. The NFL moved the Baltimore game (three times, as of Monday afternoon) because the league said it wanted to get past the period that players would most likely test positive for the same strain of the virus that was sweeping the team. Dawn Aponte of the league’s football operations team told me Sunday that when the league approved 16-man Practice Squads, part of the reasoning was that the league “would not postpone or reschedule a game simply because of perceived or actual competitive implications—and that went all the way through multiple players up to an entire position group.”

 

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The Panthers will close their team facility on Monday and Tuesday after positive COVID-19 tests. 

ESPN's Adam Schefter reported Sunday the Panthers -- who had their bye in Week 13 -- had two positive tests. The team had more positive COVID-19 tests Monday morning. A team spokesperson said names of the additional players added to the reserve/COVID-19 list won't be announced until Monday afternoon. Carolina plays the Broncos in Week 14. 

- ESPN

 

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On 12/6/2020 at 1:07 AM, Cobbler1 said:

The chances would be elevated after a game played while a team was in the middle of a massive outbreak. Even if you somehow disagree with that statement the public perception would be greater towards blaming the NFL if additional players tested positive following a game they allowed to happen with a team in the midst of an outbreak.


Why didn’t they allow a day for Denver to see if the positives were false? Well first off my understanding was that it was a positive Thursday or Friday so time did pass before Sunday to allow for the possibility of a false positive. But the positive was deemed to be real and the close contacts had to isolate for I believe 5 days per the NFL’s protocol. Could they have waited until Tuesday to play the game so the close contacts could have cleared? I guess so. But the NFL has made clear they don’t care about how this affects a team’s competitiveness on game day. They care about the likelihood/perceived likelihood of on field transmission. And there was a stark difference between Baltimore and Denver recent outbreaks/incidents in regards to that.

I don't get how people don't see the difference in the two situations. The NFL did not delay the game as a favor to Baltimore - they did it to eliminate all the infected players from playing.

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9 minutes ago, Dr. Octopus said:

I don't get how people don't see the difference in the two situations. The NFL did not delay the game as a favor to Baltimore - they did it to eliminate all the infected players from playing.

Yes, this seems very clear.  I think the ones who are unwilling to see that perspective are driven by some other bias.

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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport said D.J. Moore will be placed on the reserve/COVID-19 list. 

Moore, who left Week 12's game against the Vikings with a non-contact ankle injury, was going to be iffy to play in Week 14 anyway. X-rays on his ankle were negative though. Carolina without Moore for this week's game against the Broncos would make Robby Anderson a high-floor WR2 option. Curtis Samuel would probably see a bump in snaps and opportunity if Moore is out against Denver.

- Ian Rapoport

 

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Panthers placed Curtis Samuel on the reserve/COVID list.

Carolina also moved D.J. Moore, DT Derrick Brown, DT Zach Kerr, LB Shaq Thompson, OT Greg Little, and P Michael Palardy to the COVID list with rookie Yetur Gross-Matos and practice squad DT Bruce Hector, the latter two who were designated there during Carolina's bye week. It's unclear whom, if any, among the group tested positive, or if all were simply victims of close-contact tracing. That will likely be announced (aka cracked) towards the end of the week, putting whomever tested positive in doubt for Week 14 against the Broncos.

- Alaina Getzenberg

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The Panthers reported no new positive COVID-19 tests Tuesday. 

The team on Monday put Curtis Samuel, D.J. Moore, DT Derrick Brown, DT Zach Kerr, LB Shaq Thompson, OT Greg Little, and P Michael Palardy on the reserve/COVID-19 list. The Panthers now have ten players on the COVID list. Not great. Teams don't say whether players on the list tested positive or if they were exposed to someone who tested positive, meaning Samuel and Moore could be back for Week 14's game against Denver. Carolina plans to open its facility Wednesday after shutting it down on Monday and Tuesday. 

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Browns placed RG Wyatt Teller on the reserve/COVID-19 list. 

Teller was a close contact of a COVID-positive individual and not yet positive himself. That means he could return to action in five days and still suit up for Sunday's critical game against the Ravens. The Browns' rushing attack suffered during Teller's lengthy absence during the middle of the season with a calf injury, so this will be one to monitor closely this week. 

- Mary Kay Cabot

 

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Jay Glazer @JayGlazer

Dez Bryant tested positive for COVID and is now OUT for tonight’s game.

Dez had an inconclusive test this morning. He warmed up with the team and they re-tested him at the stadium and it came back positive.

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42 minutes ago, The Frankman said:

https://twitter.com/JayGlazer/status/1336471174679732224
 

Dez had an inconclusive test this morning. He warmed up with the team and they re-tested him at the stadium and it came back positive.

 

If a team can have a nearly-uncontrolled outbreak, of up to 4 different strains of the virus, with multiple positive tests daily for weeks, and a player tests positive on game day who is photographed in close proximity to other players and coaches, and the NFL does not cancel the game... I can't imagine under what circumstances it will.

I think as long as there are 11 players in uniform, the game goes on, no matter what. The NFL would make Justin Tucker play QB and cornerback if they had to. Nothing will stop the money machine.

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If a team can have a nearly-uncontrolled outbreak, of up to 4 different strains of the virus, with multiple positive tests daily for weeks, and a player tests positive on game day who is photographed in close proximity to other players and coaches, and the NFL does not cancel the game... I can't imagine under what circumstances it will.

I think as long as there are 11 players in uniform, the game goes on, no matter what. The NFL would make Justin Tucker play QB and cornerback if they had to. Nothing will stop the money machine.

Yeah, once they didn't cancel the Denver game despite no QBs being able to play I figured all bets are off. 

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The Bears have had three practice squad players return positive COVID-19 tests earlier this week. They have at least a fourth positive test that came back today.

https://twitter.com/danwiederer/status/1337054808528859138

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Keeping it COVID, I am officially tired AF of COVID.

Moments ago I learned that a friend's 64 y/o mom in NM, in otherwise perfect health, just passed from COVID. Took all of 10 days from testing positive/not feeling well to passing away.

And people still won't wear masks, or mock those who do as "performative". Praying for a vaccine that is effective and can be widely distributed, but I fear it's going to get much worse before that happens. 

That it has a peripheral effect on magical football is inconvenient, but I am thankful we've been able to have a season as a distraction from the thousands a day we are losing to this horrific virus. 

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14 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Keeping it COVID, I am officially tired AF of COVID.

Moments ago I learned that a friend's 64 y/o mom in NM, in otherwise perfect health, just passed from COVID. Took all of 10 days from testing positive/not feeling well to passing away.

And people still won't wear masks, or mock those who do as "performative". Praying for a vaccine that is effective and can be widely distributed, but I fear it's going to get much worse before that happens. 

That it has a peripheral effect on magical football is inconvenient, but I am thankful we've been able to have a season as a distraction from the thousands a day we are losing to this horrific virus. 

Well put.  Thank you for sharing, and I am sorry for your loss.  

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5 minutes ago, amnesiac said:

Well put.  Thank you for sharing, and I am sorry for your loss.  

I feel very fortunate that no one in my immediate family has suffered this degree of loss.

I fear that until many people do experience 1st hand loss, they won't take it seriously. 

Meanwhile in Australia, we're seeing concert footage and other massive gatherings from a place where life is returning to a normal, post-COVID world. Because instead of politicizing a pandemic, everyone worked together to combat it. 

Which only makes me more sad for our country, seemingly incapable of such unity in our generation's greatest time of need. 

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1 hour ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

Keeping it COVID, I am officially tired AF of COVID.

Moments ago I learned that a friend's 64 y/o mom in NM, in otherwise perfect health, just passed from COVID. Took all of 10 days from testing positive/not feeling well to passing away.

And people still won't wear masks, or mock those who do as "performative". Praying for a vaccine that is effective and can be widely distributed, but I fear it's going to get much worse before that happens. 

That it has a peripheral effect on magical football is inconvenient, but I am thankful we've been able to have a season as a distraction from the thousands a day we are losing to this horrific virus. 

Sorry for your friend's and your loss :(

 

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Ravens placed Dez Bryant on the reserve/COVID-19 list. 

The saga continues. Two days after Bryant was hurried off the field just before kickoff against Dallas, and on the same day Bryant claimed on Twitter that he had tested negative for the virus a couple times, he winds up on the COVID list. The disgruntled veteran didn't practice Thursday, and now it's clear why. The chances of Bryant playing another game this season are exceedingly small. Willie Snead, meanwhile, was removed from the COVID list on Thursday. 

- Baltimore Ravens

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Bears placed WR DeAndre Carter on the reserve/COVID-19 list. 

The return man's positive test prompted the closure of the Bears' team facility on Thursday morning. The earliest he can return is Week 15.

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Cowboys placed CB Chidobe Awuzie on the reserve/COVID-19 list. 

Awuzie, who missed all of October and some of November on injured reserve with a hamstring injury, will now miss more time. The second round draft pick has allowed 17 receptions on 23 targets this season. 

- Michael Gehlken

 

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The #Texans have placed one player [David Johnson] on the Reserve/COVID-19 list.

https://twitter.com/HoustonTexans/status/1337502789665247232

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Dolphins placed RB Myles Gaskin on the reserve/COVID-19 list. That’s a blow to their running game.

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Lions placed DE Everson Griffen on the reserve/COVID-19 list. 

Griffen has been playing in the neighborhood of 25-50 snaps since arriving from Dallas, notching three sacks in five games. His loss comes the same day the Lions placed CB Jeffrey Okudah on injured reserve with a groin injury. An already easy matchup for Aaron Rodgers has become downright comical. Griffen will be eligible to return for Week 15 if he is merely a "close contact," but ineligible if he is COVID positive.

 

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Bucs placed K Ryan Succop on the reserve/COVID-19 list. 

The Bucs' entire specialist trio of Succop, P Bradley Pinion and LS Zach Triner have landed on the coronavirus list. It is unclear which of the three, if any, are positive. The most likely assumption is that one is positive and the other two are close contacts. Whoever is positive will be ineligible for Sunday's game against the Falcons, one that will produce fantasy relevance for kickers. Greg Joseph is the next man up for the Bucs.

- Rotoworld

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Jaguars placed G/T Ben Bartch on the reserve/COVID-19 list. 

The No. 116 overall pick of the draft, Bartch filled in as the left guard for Sunday's blowout loss to the Titans. It is unclear if he is COVID positive himself or merely a "close contact." If it is the latter, he will be eligible to suit up for Sunday's game against the Ravens. 

- Rotoworld

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Raiders placed WR Henry Ruggs on the reserve/COVID-19 list. 

Even if Ruggs is merely a "close contact," he is now out for Thursday's game against the Chargers, as he must quarantine for five days. Ruggs popped up for 3/84/1 in Week 13 but returned to 3/18/0 for Week 14. It has been a disappointing, lightly-used rookie season for the No. 12 overall pick, but not yet one that portends doom for the rest of his NFL career. The 21-year-old is simply a work in progress. Ruggs' lack of clear-out deep speed will be an issue for Derek Carr against the Bolts.

 

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Dolphins placed WR Kirk Merritt on the reserve/COVID-19 list. 

Merritt has played only eight snaps this season, but his reserve list placement comes at a moment where the 'Fins are perilously thin at wideout. It also suggests the possibility of coronavirus spread in the Dolphins' receiver corps. This will be a story to monitor this week.

- Rotoworld

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Chargers placed S Derwin James (IR) on the COVID-19 list.

James tore his meniscus and needed season-ending surgery back in September. The All-Pro safety should be back to full health ahead of the 2021 season, assuming he dodges any serious side effects from the coronavirus. The Chargers defense hasn't been as good in 2020 without James.

- Rotoworld

 

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Bucs placed RB Ronald Jones on the reserve/COVID-19 list.

Jones was already questionable for Week 15 after having surgery on his broken finger. He'll now miss at least the next five days if he's a close contact. This likely rules out Jones for Sunday's game with the Falcons.

 

Ravens placed WR Marquise Brown on the reserve/COVID-19 list.

A positive test would rule Brown out for Week 15. There's a chance Brown can still get cleared if he's only a close contact. The Ravens also placed WRs Miles Boykin and James Proche in COVID protocols. They activated Dez Bryant from the COVID-19 list earlier this week.

Stunned Brown has it, he usually can't catch anything.

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Jason Garrett tested positive for COVID-19. Freddie Kitchens will call plays on Sunday against the Browns.

https://twitter.com/ZackBlatt/status/1339567693972860930

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Giants placed James Bradberry on the reserve/COVID-19 list. 

This is reportedly unrelated to Giants offensive coordinator Jason Garrett testing positive for COVID-19. Bradberry, one of the league's top corners, was considered a high-risk close contact because he was exposed to someone away from the team facility. With Pro Football Focus' tenth highest pass coverage grade this season, Bradberry constitutes a major loss for the Giants ahead of a critical Week 15 game against the Browns. Bradberry's absence is a plus for Baker Mayfield and the Browns passing game. 

 

Jets placed DL Foley Fatukasi on the reserve/COVID-19 list. 

Even if he's merely a "close contact," Fatukasi does not have enough time to get cleared for Sunday's game against the Rams. It's a not inconsequential loss for the Jets' collapsed defense, as Fatukasi plays 50-ish snaps per game and is having a strong year against the run. As if Cam Akers' Week 15 light could get any greener. 

 

49ers placed RB Austin Walter on the reserve/COVID-19 list. 

The question becomes if Walter was a "close contact" of anyone else in the 49ers' short-handed backfield, but the fact that only he is going on the COVID list right now suggests he was the "close contact" of a positive individual and not positive himself, thereby not creating the need for his teammates to go on the list. Hopefully this is the last we hear of it until Walter's activation. 

 

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Bucs placed LT Donovan Smith on the reserve/COVID-19 list.

He’s out for Week 15 against the pass rush-deficient Falcons, so that’s at least a positive for the Bucs. Smith is merely a close contact, so he should be fine for Week 16. Look for Josh Wells to start on Tom Brady’s blind side against Atlanta.

The Broncos canceled a Friday walk through after a staff member tested positive for COVID-19. 

Strength coach Loren Landow tested positive for the virus, forcing the team to work virtually a day before they take on the Bills in Denver. The Broncos have taken more COVID-19 precautions of late, like keeping a QB in isolation in case the entire quarterback room tests positive or comes in close contact with someone who tests positive for COVID-19. A short week just got shorter for the Broncos. 

Rams placed T Bobby Evans and S Nick Scott on the reserve/COVID-19 list. 

Evans has only played one snap in 2020 and Scott has played 120 snaps, behind Taylor Rapp and Jordan Fuller. It's not clear whether they tested positive for the virus or were close contacts.

 

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Posted July 22 (edited)

I am guessing the NFL is going to get in all 16 games.  Look at what the NBA did.  They are basically for the most part having almost all teams play their entire season and playoffs it just paused for 4+ months.  If for some reason the NFL has to stop mid season don't you think they will do the same thing ?  Why would they just throw their hands up in the air after 6 weeks and say season cancelled.  They would just push it back like the NBA and start again at some point.   Sure it sets everything else back like the NFL Draft and other stuff but that beats scrapping a season.  The NBA has pushed the NBA Draft back like 4-5 months.  It still is going to go on.

MONEY MONEY MONEY is why the NFL is going to have a season.

 

Over 50% predicted 5 games or less this year.  If this was a betting site I would be slamming the over 10 games and getting great odds based on what everyone else is betting.

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Only 15% of people on here said there would be 10+ games on the season.  I had all 16 games being played back on July 22nd.

Pay that man his money!!!!!!!!!!!

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The Lions will conduct meetings remotely Tuesday after two positive COVID-19 tests.

This makes a short week even shorter for the struggling Lions. They play the Bucs on Saturday as their disastrous season comes to a close. Barring any more positive tests in the coming days, the game should be played as scheduled, though fantasy managers should keep tabs on this situation. 

- Detroit Lions

 

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49ers placed QB Josh Johnson on the reserve/COVID-19 list. 

It's awful timing, as the Niners actually needed Johnson to back up C.J. Beathard on Saturday against the Cardinals. Now the team must troll other teams' practice squads hunting for a No. 2. 

 

Rams placed S Juju Hughes on the reserve/COVID-19 list. 

Hughes played 31 snaps in Sunday's shocking loss to the Jets, so some contract tracing will be underway. A rookie UDFA, Hughes has typically been providing 15-20 weekly plays for the Rams' impressive defense.

 

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“A group of Browns wide receivers have been deemed High-Risk-Close-Contacts and Cleveland is awaiting word as to how many will not be able to travel to New York for Sunday’s game vs. Jets, sources tell @mortreport and me. Game is on but Browns likely without WRs and possibly a TE.” Per Schefter 

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10 minutes ago, whole-show said:

Jarvis Landry, Rashard Higgins and Donovan People-Jones have been deemed High-Risk-Close-Contacts, per @mortreport and me. Browns awaiting further instruction but all three now could be out Sunday vs. Jets. Per Schefter 

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Been debating R. Higgins or Gaskin all day.

Decision made for me.

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20 minutes ago, whole-show said:

Jarvis Landry, Rashard Higgins and Donovan People-Jones have been deemed High-Risk-Close-Contacts, per @mortreport and me. Browns awaiting further instruction but all three now could be out Sunday vs. Jets. Per Schefter 

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Ahh...cool cool cool...Jarvis in a sweet matchup and now...not.

And with all the WRs out, NY will key in on Chubb.  Hopefully he busts a few likely getting a ton of running work.  Need it big time with Brady going off in a half...Fournette and Cook both getting decent points (TDs)...and me having Wilson start out well but get dinged before the half.

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