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NFL and Covid Issues - Initially Asked in Shark Pool To Keep it 100% NFL (4 Viewers)
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Insein
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This is only an issue for their inconsistency. They can't say D need needs to play as scheduled while allowing Baltimore a full 6 days to get their game in and then eventually just playing it as is anyway. If they would have made Baltimore play Thanksgiving or even Sunday, it wouldn't be an issue.BoltBacker said:
That’s crazy. Baltimore would have played with several players carrying the virus Thanksgiving. And the NFL/Ravens would have been blamed for cancer recoverer James Conner getting the virus a couple days later.
Insein
Footballguy
Play as is. That's what they made Denver do. Either that or allow Denver to wait a day to be able to have 1 QB available.
NFL cares primarily about the spread of the virus or perceived spread of the virus on the field. Denver situation was vastly different from the Ravens. If they hold the Ravens game Thursday and 2 days later high risk Andrews and high risk Conner test positive for Covid that is the exact scenario they want to avoid.
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Insein
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Same could happen after every game. Why didn't they allow Denver a day to see if the positives were false or went away?
The chances would be elevated after a game played while a team was in the middle of a massive outbreak. Even if you somehow disagree with that statement the public perception would be greater towards blaming the NFL if additional players tested positive following a game they allowed to happen with a team in the midst of an outbreak.
Why didn’t they allow a day for Denver to see if the positives were false? Well first off my understanding was that it was a positive Thursday or Friday so time did pass before Sunday to allow for the possibility of a false positive. But the positive was deemed to be real and the close contacts had to isolate for I believe 5 days per the NFL’s protocol. Could they have waited until Tuesday to play the game so the close contacts could have cleared? I guess so. But the NFL has made clear they don’t care about how this affects a team’s competitiveness on game day. They care about the likelihood/perceived likelihood of on field transmission. And there was a stark difference between Baltimore and Denver recent outbreaks/incidents in regards to that.
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barackdhouse
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If Denver wanted a QB so bad for that game, maybe they should have valued the position more by not being reckless about it. I consider this Denver situation the harshest example the NFL has set yet, but maybe finally the message will sink in. Should have happened everywhere back in April but yeah whatever #### masks we're gonna do whatever we want. Ok well now you get to put up Hinton then.
I'm not going to say the NFL is doing a good job or a consistent one. The Ravens game had to get bumped or risk further spread. Not so with the Denver game. I wouldn't have complained if they'd given them another day to get a QB active but not sure that has happened before and maybe a dangerous precedent.
I'm not going to say the NFL is doing a good job or a consistent one. The Ravens game had to get bumped or risk further spread. Not so with the Denver game. I wouldn't have complained if they'd given them another day to get a QB active but not sure that has happened before and maybe a dangerous precedent.
heckmanm
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To @barackdhouse's point:
From a Peter King column: The NFL will move a game for medical reasons, but not for competitive reasons. So if Denver breaks protocol and gets all their QBs on the COVID list, but there's no elevated risk on the rest of the team, NFL won't delay their game.
But Baltimore was having a team-wide outbreak, which would have led to higher risk of further spread if the game was played. That's why their game was moved.
From a Peter King column: The NFL will move a game for medical reasons, but not for competitive reasons. So if Denver breaks protocol and gets all their QBs on the COVID list, but there's no elevated risk on the rest of the team, NFL won't delay their game.
But Baltimore was having a team-wide outbreak, which would have led to higher risk of further spread if the game was played. That's why their game was moved.
The Frankman
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Dr. Octopus
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I don't get how people don't see the difference in the two situations. The NFL did not delay the game as a favor to Baltimore - they did it to eliminate all the infected players from playing.
skinsrule05
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Yes, this seems very clear. I think the ones who are unwilling to see that perspective are driven by some other bias.
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GroveDiesel
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Interesting stat:
With no/limited fans in the stands has likely lead to no home field advantage this year. So far, away teams have actually won more games than home teams.
Rick Gosselin on Twitter
With no/limited fans in the stands has likely lead to no home field advantage this year. So far, away teams have actually won more games than home teams.
Rick Gosselin on Twitter
The Frankman
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https://twitter.com/JayGlazer/status/1336471174679732224
Dez had an inconclusive test this morning. He warmed up with the team and they re-tested him at the stadium and it came back positive.
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If a team can have a nearly-uncontrolled outbreak, of up to 4 different strains of the virus, with multiple positive tests daily for weeks, and a player tests positive on game day who is photographed in close proximity to other players and coaches, and the NFL does not cancel the game... I can't imagine under what circumstances it will.
I think as long as there are 11 players in uniform, the game goes on, no matter what. The NFL would make Justin Tucker play QB and cornerback if they had to. Nothing will stop the money machine.
foxco
Footballguy
Yeah, once they didn't cancel the Denver game despite no QBs being able to play I figured all bets are off.
Faust
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Dez Bryant hugged a bunch of Cowboys players and staff prior to the game:
https://twitter.com/colin_dunlap/status/1336481050969649152?s=21
https://twitter.com/chuck41299/status/1336488948613455872?s=21
https://twitter.com/colin_dunlap/status/1336481050969649152?s=21
https://twitter.com/chuck41299/status/1336488948613455872?s=21
Buffaloes
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Agreed. The optics play a role in money. Letting Dez out on the field while his second test was pending was a very bad thing.
The Frankman
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Hot Sauce Guy
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Keeping it COVID, I am officially tired AF of COVID.
Moments ago I learned that a friend's 64 y/o mom in NM, in otherwise perfect health, just passed from COVID. Took all of 10 days from testing positive/not feeling well to passing away.
And people still won't wear masks, or mock those who do as "performative". Praying for a vaccine that is effective and can be widely distributed, but I fear it's going to get much worse before that happens.
That it has a peripheral effect on magical football is inconvenient, but I am thankful we've been able to have a season as a distraction from the thousands a day we are losing to this horrific virus.
Moments ago I learned that a friend's 64 y/o mom in NM, in otherwise perfect health, just passed from COVID. Took all of 10 days from testing positive/not feeling well to passing away.
And people still won't wear masks, or mock those who do as "performative". Praying for a vaccine that is effective and can be widely distributed, but I fear it's going to get much worse before that happens.
That it has a peripheral effect on magical football is inconvenient, but I am thankful we've been able to have a season as a distraction from the thousands a day we are losing to this horrific virus.
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Hot Sauce Guy
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I feel very fortunate that no one in my immediate family has suffered this degree of loss.
I fear that until many people do experience 1st hand loss, they won't take it seriously.
Meanwhile in Australia, we're seeing concert footage and other massive gatherings from a place where life is returning to a normal, post-COVID world. Because instead of politicizing a pandemic, everyone worked together to combat it.
Which only makes me more sad for our country, seemingly incapable of such unity in our generation's greatest time of need.
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Stunned Brown has it, he usually can't catch anything.
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whole-show
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Browns facility is closed and flight to New Jersey delayed as contract tracing is being done
whole-show
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“A group of Browns wide receivers have been deemed High-Risk-Close-Contacts and Cleveland is awaiting word as to how many will not be able to travel to New York for Sunday’s game vs. Jets, sources tell @mortreport and me. Game is on but Browns likely without WRs and possibly a TE.” Per Schefter
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sho nuff
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Ahh...cool cool cool...Jarvis in a sweet matchup and now...not.
And with all the WRs out, NY will key in on Chubb. Hopefully he busts a few likely getting a ton of running work. Need it big time with Brady going off in a half...Fournette and Cook both getting decent points (TDs)...and me having Wilson start out well but get dinged before the half.
