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7 hours ago, Tanner9919 said:

I dont get all the hype. At least half of these top QBs will bust. Lawrence is the biggest can't-miss prospect at QB since P. Manning. The rest are a coin flip. I don't think Fields amounts to a hill of beans. How many more times do we have to see an Ohio State QB flop in the NFL before we realize that Ohio state QBs are not pro material??? If it walks like a duck..

I guess Manning succeeded because of the long history of outstanding Tennessee QBs. For some reason I thought it was due to talent and hard work.

But does this also mean we should stay away from Lawrence because it's inevitable that he's going to start assaulting women? I don't think Clemson has ever produced a successful QB who hasn't been accused by 22 massage therapists. I might be overlooking someone though.   

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It's like saying the Bills were dumb to draft a QB out of Wyoming.

Exactly, every team drafting in the top 10 with the exception of the Jags and Jets see the value of their picks increasing if the possibility of Fields falling exists. It's possible almost all the neg

My daughter gave me my orange Justin Fields jersey today for Father's Day. Love that kid.  😉 Not usually a jersey guy, but she saw how excited I was when Chicago grabbed him, so she said Father's

Jim Mora Jr.'s Scouting Report of Justin Fields

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Jim Mora Jr. is one of the best football analysts in the country.

He's extremely experienced, knowledgeable, honest and generous with his insights. He was the defensive coordinator of the 49ers, and a two-time NFL head coach, plus a head coach in college. He knows his stuff.

I recently asked him to analyze the quarterbacks the 49ers might draft next week. Here's what Mora said about Justin Fields:

MORA Jr.: "I love the fact that he's a winner. I love his record at Ohio State. You've got to put some stock in the fact that you're drafting a kid who knows how to win. The fact that he played at Ohio State, he played in big games against great teams on a national stage and performed well says a lot about him. The way he responded this year in the college football playoff to the disappointment the year before says a lot about his competitive nature. 

"I think he's a great decision-maker with the football, as evidenced by his touchdown-to-interception ratio. Now, he's not perfect. He's going to force some throws. He's still developing.

"I love his mobility. I love his ability to stand in the pocket and throw it, and then get out of the pocket, be creative, keep his eyes up the field, keep the ball in a throwing position, remain a threat as a passer to get the ball downfield late with accuracy and still have the ability to tuck it and run and make critical yards if he needs to. You've seen him make some tremendous runs. I wouldn't characterize him as a running quarterback. I would characterize him as a really great quarterback who can also threaten you with his legs.

"I like his size and stature. I like his demeanor. I like his toughness. There's not a lot that I don't like. If you want to be hypercritical, the way the ball comes out of his hand, you see some quarterbacks throw a more pure pass, or have a more pure motion, but he gets it done. As I watched him the last two years perform, I was always captivated, I always wanted to see what he was going to do, and he convinced me that he's an elite player."

Q: When you say he doesn't have the purest motion, what do you mean?

MORA Jr.: "I don't know that it's a weakness -- it's just an observation. When you watch Trevor Lawrence throw the football, the way his arm moves through his motion and the way the ball comes out of his hand, there's just a purity to it. Certain quarterbacks, the ball just comes off their hands in a different way. And with Fields, when I say it's a little more labored, I don't want anyone to think that he throws labored, because he doesn't. He throws a nice ball, it's just not as fluid, as loose, as natural. It's maybe a little bit more of a learned motion. If that's the thing we're picking on, then he's fine."

Q: How coachable is this issue?

MORA Jr.: "It's coachable. And I don't want to call it a weakness. Because if it were a weakness, we wouldn't be talking about him being a pick the 49ers would consider. It's just a difference with some of the other guys. It's just his style. It's not as pretty. But the kid is a great competitor and he's a winner. He's a big-time winner."

 

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13 hours ago, farfromforgotten said:

Does he have the "Ohio State QB taint" on him? 

No, but if he ever shared a locker room with Micah Parsons...

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13 hours ago, farfromforgotten said:

Burrow spent time on campus before transferring out. Does he have the "Ohio State QB taint" on him? 

Heck Burrow was at OSU for a year longer than Fields was.

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NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reports the Patriots could trade up in the NFL Draft in pursuit of Ohio State's Justin Fields. 

The Patriots, picking at No. 15, "have been calling around in the top ten," Pelissero said, adding New England would likely have to part with a second-round draft pick to puncture the top-ten. Fields, who could inexplicably fall down the draft board, is believed to be the team's target. Probably Fields would compete with Cam Newton for the Patriots' Week 1 starting job, though there's little chance the pro-ready Fields would spend his entire rookie season on the bench in favor of a fading veteran signal caller. Fields' rushing prowess would make him an every-week fantasy starter in what should be a massively run-heavy New England offense. 

RELATED: 

Cam Newton

, New England Patriots

, Carolina Panthers

, Denver Broncos

SOURCE: Tom Pelissero on Twitter 

Apr 26, 2021, 8:50 AM ET

 

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JUSTIN FIELDS QB, OHIO STATE BUCKEYES

ESPN's Todd McShay reports that the Carolina Panthers cannot be ruled out for a possible quarterback selection with the No. 8 pick.

The Panthers were expected to take a quarterback at No. 8 until they traded for Sam Darnold earlier this spring. According to McShay, even with Darnold in the fold, signal-caller remains a possibility for Carolina. Crucially, we will note that this report emerges not out of the Panthers camp, but rather from a scout and general manager unconnected to the club. The plugged-in evaluator passes along that Ohio State QB Justin Fields -- reportedly no longer a realistic option for the 49ers at No. 3 -- is the player potentially in Carolina's sights. This could all very much be a smokescreen, of course, with McShay writing that "it's entirely possible that [the Panthers are] only floating this notion to bait a team such as Denver, New England, Washington or Chicago to move up for a king's ransom." Changing gears slightly, if the Panthers opt for a non-quarterback at their current Day 1 slot, McShay hears that wide receiver would likely be the call. Assuming that Kyle Pitts (basically a wide receiver) and Ja'Marr Chase are off the board, Alabama's Jaylen Waddle and Devonta Smith would be the next most-likely targets at the skill positions.

SOURCE: ESPN Plus

Apr 26, 2021, 1:29 PM ET

 

 

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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports that the San Francisco 49ers' focus no longer includes Ohio State QB Justin Fields.

According to Rap Sheet, the 49ers are zeroing in on North Dakota State's Trey Lance and Alabama's Mac Jones. That leaves Fields -- who came into the 2020 college season viewed in many corners as QB2 behind Trevor Lawrence -- out in the cold. And begs the question, just who does end up taking the Ohio State star? The Atlanta Falcons, with the No. 4 pick, are one possibility, though there's a very real chance they go skill-position player in that slot. After that, you're talking the Lions (No. 7) and Broncos (No. 9) within the first ten picks. Should Fields slide lower than that, you start to creep towards outfits such as the Eagles (No. 12), Vikings (No. 14) and Patriots (No. 15). Those slots, of course, are contingent on everybody staying put, without a trade. Stay tuned. It's almost go-time.

SOURCE: NFL.com

Apr 26, 2021, 12:09 PM ET

 

 

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I get that Chris Simms is not the biggest Fields fan . . . but in his latest mock he has Fields falling to TB at #32. He has Lawrence-Wilson-Jones going 1-2-3 with WFT moving up to take Jones at 8. And then Fields free falls from there. He even has NE moving up in the draft . . . to take WR Jaylen Waddle. LINK

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6 minutes ago, Anarchy99 said:

I get that Chris Simms is not the biggest Fields fan . . . but in his latest mock he has Fields falling to TB at #32. He has Lawrence-Wilson-Jones going 1-2-3 with WFT moving up to take Jones at 8. And then Fields free falls from there. He even has NE moving up in the draft . . . to take WR Jaylen Waddle. LINK

Some people just want to be different. Click bait in a way. People say "Oh Em Jee did you see Chris Simms Mock Draft? He's got Fields @ 32." Other people will click on it. It's ridiculous I think because a team like Chicago will pass on a free QB with this upside? There's so many teams that weren't thinking QB but if a guy like Fields falls that far, just might take him. Just my take.

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From the consensus #2 QB in college football when play stopped to suddenly 5th. Narratives...

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I can’t find it now but I saw a list of quotes leading up to mayfield being drafted 1.01. No one knows wtf they’re doing. Things like “Darnold follows Hoyer on Twitter” pushing the narrative.

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49 minutes ago, Anarchy99 said:

I get that Chris Simms is not the biggest Fields fan . . . but in his latest mock he has Fields falling to TB at #32. He has Lawrence-Wilson-Jones going 1-2-3 with WFT moving up to take Jones at 8. And then Fields free falls from there. He even has NE moving up in the draft . . . to take WR Jaylen Waddle. LINK

Simms podcast gives good reasons why Fields is his #6 QB, also behind Mond. But no way Fields falls to #32.

Simms QB record since his rankings started in 2018, and his recognition that Mahomes was special in 2017, speaks for itself. He is really down on Fields decision making, because he values arm strength and athleticism, which Fields oozes. 

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Chad Forbes @NFLDraftBites

Character knocks on Justin Fields feel like agenda driven by Agents of other QBs.

- Son of Marine & Retired Police Officer

- Came across well in the NetFlix Program "Beyond the Lights" at 18 yrs old

And passion for the game? Without Fields, Big 10 doesn't play this past Fall.

https://twitter.com/nfldraftbites/status/1387462009680273410?s=21

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Bears traded up with the Giants to select Ohio State QB Justin Fields with the No. 11 overall pick in the 2021 NFL Draft.

Deemed "QB1" by the Bears in March, Andy Dalton's run as Chicago's starter ended before it began. Fields somehow fell to the 11th pick, prompting the Bears to make their move and get their quarterback of the future. Leaving high school as 247Sports’ No. 8 all-time recruit, Fields (6'3/227) played one partial season at Georgia before taking over the starting job at Ohio State. He went 22-2 with the Buckeyes, only losing to Clemson and Alabama in the College Football Playoff. Fields is sturdily built and provides elite athleticism for the position. Between zone reads and scrambles, he averaged 39.4 rushing yards per game in Columbus and showcased 4.44 speed at his pro day. Fields can hit all throws from far-hash outs to downfield shots and has largely dodged turnovers (9 career INTs), too. Like Russell Wilson and Deshaun Watson, Fields is prone to taking sacks while waiting for the downfield shot to develop, but Ohio State’s offense invited that style of play and his in-pocket strength makes him a difficult quarterback to fully corral. Ultimately, there are more positives than negatives in Fields’ pass game. He averaged 9.3 yards per target with a 22/6 TD/INT ratio and 70% completion percentage across eight games as a junior against one of the hardest strengths of schedule. Fields’ blend of accuracy, arm strength, and dual-threat abilities leave him with a sky-high ceiling. Like Trey Lance, he fits the mold of the dual-threat QB archetype proliferating across the league. Fields will be a popular mid-to-late round fantasy pick come August.

- Rotoworld

 

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You can take this with a grain of salt since I'm a tried a true scarlet and gray fan over but I believe Fields is one of the best QB's I've ever watched at Ohio State.  He has a ton of talent and I want nothing more than the most success possible for him in a Bears uniform.  I hope they take their time and patience developing him and I hope he kicks ### in Chicago!

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5 hours ago, Todem said:

IMO they got the steal of the draft.

Huge score for Da Bears.

i tend to agree right here.  Everyone would have been very comfortable if a team took him in the top 3 and yet you could him way later

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Just now, wgoldsph said:

Heard this during the draft but bears (he-yuck) repeating - already the best qb Allen Robinson has ever had to play with.

Be interesting to see what Robinson does with it

He's one of those guys that you wonder on the right team is he a superstar?  He just hasn't been on the right team

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Heath Cummings @heathcummingssr

Initial 17-game projection for Justin Fields in Chicago:

4,400 pass yards 24 TD 18 INT
370 rush yards 3 TD

QB26 in projections
QB13 in Dynasty

https://twitter.com/heathcummingssr/status/1387948107758030849?s=21
 

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Heath Cummings @heathcummingssr

That's a great haul for the Giants but IMO in 2 years they'll wish they had Justin Fields instead.

https://twitter.com/heathcummingssr/status/1387945624407060481?s=21

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On 4/30/2021 at 5:41 PM, Faust said:

https://twitter.com/heathcummingssr/status/1387948107758030849?s=21

Heath Cummings @heathcummingssr

Initial 17-game projection for Justin Fields in Chicago:

4,400 pass yards 24 TD 18 INT
370 rush yards 3 TD

QB26 in projections
QB13 in Dynasty

https://twitter.com/heathcummingssr/status/1387945624407060481?s=21

As another former FBG Staffer, I can't get all over Heath too much. But the Bears have only had two QB throw for 3,800 yards in a season in their 100 year history. Erik Kramer holds the record at 3,838. Granted, that was in a 16 game season, so extrapolated that would work out to 4,077 over 17 games (whether Fields plays all 17 games is yet to be seen). Similarly, they've only had 6 instances where a QB threw 24 passing TDs in a season. Getting to 4,400 passing yards would mean an extra 500 yards above what Trubisky and Foles produced last year.

I guess it's possible, but IMO that seems high. That would set a new record for passing yards by a rookie. Given that that total would only rank as QB26 leads me to believe that Heath is over projecting QB production in general.

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I think Fields could excel in Chicago if Nagy hands over the play calling like he did the 2nd half last year.  And of course it depends on when they (Coaches) will let him start (right from the jump?)

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