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Is Carson Wentz a buy low candidate w/his weapons returning? (1 Viewer)
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Deamon
Footballguy
Depends on a ton of your league settings. But sure I suppose if you dont have short benches and don't have a top 10 fantasy qb right now then he's worth the grab.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
There's a school of thought that he does better with the young guys than the veterans.
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
Jeffery is long past washed up, Jackson is borderline and Reagor is a rookie. Not loving him in redraft. Hell, in redraft I'm surprised he isn't on waivers. Maybe in dynasty but all depends on prices.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
i wouldn't get too excited about jeffrey and jackson. i would guess that they will be hurt as soon as they return.
Pigskin Fanatic
Footballguy
most days i'd tell you Milkman is crazytalk. but, as a Wentz apologist and a Eagles fan, i'm losing faith by the day. the bad decision after another can't all be attributed to the bad oline and supporting cast, though it could be a David Carr@Hou situation where it's basically PTSD after each series of running for his life. For long term, i just don't know.
But as a lottery ticket for the back half of this year, what other QB is left on the wire who could end up top 10 rest of the way? the team won't be full strength at WR until after the bye week and that oline is still iffy, but schedule looks good and if everyone can get back on the field healthy you could do a lot worse. not a ringing endorsement, i know, lol.
But as a lottery ticket for the back half of this year, what other QB is left on the wire who could end up top 10 rest of the way? the team won't be full strength at WR until after the bye week and that oline is still iffy, but schedule looks good and if everyone can get back on the field healthy you could do a lot worse. not a ringing endorsement, i know, lol.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
In two QB leagues, sure. In one QB leagues, I’m not sure he is a bye-week filler.
Deamon
Footballguy
Yep it's all relative. Wentz will improve... but not to the point of being a fantasy stud.
I-ROK
Footballguy
12 QBs who will finish the season with more points than Wentz
Josh Allen, Mahomes, Jackson, Murray, Rodgers, Herbert, Wilson, Watson, Goff, Mayfield, Tannehill, Brady, Brees, Big Ben, Cam Newton, Carr, Fitzpatrick if he isn’t benched, and quite possibly Dak Prescott considering Wentz could be close to being benched. So that’s more than 12 but I just don’t see it happening.
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Manster
Footballguy
I feel like Wentz could have a similar track as Carr. Carr was on a tear, got injured, and proceeded to turn into a deer in the headlights......Wentz, kinda the same.....but we've seen what he's capable of. I think it's too soon to write him off, for sure. And as his supporting cast improves, who knows, maybe he gets back to a pro bowl level......I just puked in my mouth a little
Mr. Irrelevant
IBL Representative
Also you hear a lot about guys being "better for real life than fantasy" but Wentz is the rare example of someone who could be the opposite.
The Eagles are 5th in plays run this year, 1st last year, 8th the year before that. They may not always be effective, but Pederson has never let the grass grow under their feet. And with their weaknesses in the secondary it's not like a lot of teams will be trying to run the ball and grind clock against them, either.
If he can get to the point where he's even the 20th-best QB statistically, that could still make him close to a top-12 fantasy QB on volume alone.
The Eagles are 5th in plays run this year, 1st last year, 8th the year before that. They may not always be effective, but Pederson has never let the grass grow under their feet. And with their weaknesses in the secondary it's not like a lot of teams will be trying to run the ball and grind clock against them, either.
If he can get to the point where he's even the 20th-best QB statistically, that could still make him close to a top-12 fantasy QB on volume alone.
Deamon
Footballguy
You mean like J. Winston?
Also, if Wentz becomes top 12 for fantasy, then that would mean he's doing a pretty miraculous job at QB with what he's working with to throw to. Fulgham is our top guy right now.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Wentz's metrics are terrible this year. Isn't throwing catchable balls, poor decision making... the WR injuries are masking some of the issues but before where all he needed was Ertz to make magic he doesn't have that ability anymore (and Ertz looks like he lost his smile). I think he'll improve especially once Goedert returns, but I'm not sure if it will be a big improvement. Certainly not a Top 15 guy unless he really cleans up his accuracy.
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Deamon
Footballguy
I see him around QB12-15 for the 2nd half of the season. Still barely startable unless you're desperate.
The Frankman
Footballguy
I think we have to start asking "Is Jalen Hurts a Top 15 QB w/the Eagles' weapons returning?"
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Not with that offensive line. At this rate, I don't see how he makes it through the full season.
Deamon
Footballguy
Deamon
Footballguy
dipandglide
Footballguy
Their whole team is a mess. Why is everyone pinning it on Wentz? I thought what he did last year with that supporting cast was amazing. His supporting cast is in shambles once again and from the looks of it his oline sucks. He can’t do it all on his own all the time.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Deamon
Footballguy
dipandglide
Footballguy
Heart
He dropped three td’s last week in a gutsy comeback. He’s getting Dallas (Big upgrade over Ertz) Goedert back by week ten at the latest. Jaylen Reagor and Alshon Jeffery are right around the corner and DeSean Jackson is back tonight. While I don’t expect a lot tonight vs the Giants, I still think there is some late season potential here.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
The problem is that the line is in shambles too. It's pretty amazing what he's done with absolutely zero help around him.
I actually like Wentz quite a bit long term. I think he can have a Matt Ryan type career. But I don't think Philly's problems are fixable enough this year for him to be a fantasy difference maker in redraft.
I actually like Wentz quite a bit long term. I think he can have a Matt Ryan type career. But I don't think Philly's problems are fixable enough this year for him to be a fantasy difference maker in redraft.
IDK, second week in a row with 3td’s and his weapons are on the way back. Gutsy win for the Eagles and Wentz
Wentz - 359 passing yards, 15 yards running yds, 3td’s, 1 int...Very solid numbers with the majority of his weapons still injured. I think he’s a pretty obvious buy low guy.
Wentz - 359 passing yards, 15 yards running yds, 3td’s, 1 int...Very solid numbers with the majority of his weapons still injured. I think he’s a pretty obvious buy low guy.
Morton Muffley
Footballguy
I'm loving him as my third QB in a 2QB league. Am playing match-ups so didn't play him tonight and will likely regret it.
Deamon
Footballguy
Morton Muffley
Footballguy
I have three borderline top 10 QBs IMO - Matt Ryan, Ben Roethlisberger, and Wentz (all TDs are 6 pts so I view them interchangeably and play match-ups)
VikingFrog
Footballguy
I would have made the same decision this week on those 3. May not pan out but in a vacuum you made the right choice. Having said that... I didn’t start Matt Ryan last week so sometimes vacuums suck.
Deamon
Footballguy
Ya Ben and Wentz were a coin flip this week per fbg rankings. I had the exact same decision in one league and literally flipped a coin and it landed on Carson so I lucked out.
Morton Muffley
Footballguy
Indeed, I started Ryan last week (good call), but also started him the prior week (bad call). It happens. Not gonna get 'em all right but if you have good choices and make sound decisions your team will be better off for it even if it means you have some additional remorse along the way
VikingFrog
Footballguy
I’ve started Ryan every week since week 3. Lol. I’ve literally missed all his good weeks. But I own Julio and Ridley on the same team, so it all worked out. Starting him this week so I’m ready for a letdown.
I know, know... this post has nothing to do with Wentz but I like beer.
Deamon
Footballguy
Currently QB7 on the season.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Out of curiosity, what is the league format? In my league, he's currently QB14 and that's with an extra game played over a few of the other guys who are close by. Actually never mind - I see yahoo hasn't' updated to account for this week yet. I'll have to look again tomorrow or later on.
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Deamon
Footballguy
Seriously??? That seems unlikely.... are you not counting this week yet?
All my leagues he's sitting in 7th. Pretty standard scoring. Goff has an outside shot to catch him tonight but doubtful, and Foles won't, so he should still be in the QB7 spot after tonight.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Yeah I edited my post. So I guess he was around QB14 (give or take depending on league settings) and jumped up 7 spots after this week.
Deamon
Footballguy
Ya QB7 now. Of course not having a bye yet is a factor, but he is still QB11 in terms of Average Per Week, and he's climbing up quickly.
When this forum was made I thought qb12-15 end of season, but I'm starting to think he will end around the QB8 spot barring injury. Which makes him a decent QB1.
