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3 minutes ago, Tolstoy said:

Fox News passed on the story.  let that sink in.

What do you expect from a news org that employs Chris Wallace - really they should just shut that whole operation down and move Hannity over to OANN  - Either that or let them join the resistance and fake liberal news.  I think Hannity would feel right at home over there. 

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18 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

 

Biden Campaign Surrogate on Hunter Biden Emails: Nobody ‘Is Saying They Are Inauthentic’

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A Biden campaign surrogate on Sunday did not deny the authenticity of the alleged Hunter Biden emails and texts that were published in the New York Post last week.

“I don’t think anybody is saying they are inauthentic,” Biden campaigner Jenna Arnold admitted on Fox News after repeatedly trying to steer the conversation to other topics.

This is where they could learn a thing or two from Trump - shout it down as fake news for as long as it takes until it goes away or is shown to be real.  Then if it's shown to be real just say it's a nothingburger.  Step 3 - profit.

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5 minutes ago, squistion said:

And nobody is saying they are authentic either as they have yet to be independently verified by a reputable source.

People in this thread are.  Everyone in the Trump sphere is.  With no evidence whatsoever.  Status quo.  

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How far back do you want to go? The original claim was that Joe Biden (as Vice President) singlehandedly forced the country of Ukraine to fire an investigator who was supposedly investigating Hunter Biden. When that fake story failed to move the needle outside of Breitbart comment sections,

 

 

so your saying this story is fake?

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19 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

Protection of corrupt practices, cushy trade deals, favored status, you name it.   

I don't think that was in the e-mails, was it? 

Imma need you to hold yourself to the same standard of evidence needed to convict Trump for QPQ in the Ukraine case here...if Hunter doesn't explicitly call out the terms of the deal, we can't accept these charges.

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51 minutes ago, Joe Summer said:

How far back do you want to go? The original claim was that Joe Biden (as Vice President) singlehandedly forced the country of Ukraine to fire an investigator who was supposedly investigating Hunter Biden. When that fake story failed to move the needle outside of Breitbart comment sections, they came up with a new twist, which was that they uncovered an email on a laptop in which some guy in Ukraine told Hunter that he would like to meet Joe.

So far, there's no confirmation: that the email is real; that Hunter saw it; that Hunter replied to it; that Hunter contacted Joe to set up the meeting; that Joe agreed to the meeting; that the meeting happened; or that the meeting resulted in any illegal or illicit activity from Joe.

so your saying in regards to Ukraine in your first paragraph that this is a fake story?

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55 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Biden Campaign Surrogate on Hunter Biden Emails: Nobody ‘Is Saying They Are Inauthentic’

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A Biden campaign surrogate on Sunday did not deny the authenticity of the alleged Hunter Biden emails and texts that were published in the New York Post last week.

“I don’t think anybody is saying they are inauthentic,” Biden campaigner Jenna Arnold admitted on Fox News after repeatedly trying to steer the conversation to other topics.

And nobody is saying they are authentic either as they have yet to be independently verified by a reputable source.

If the emails were inauthentic, I think Hunter Biden would know that, would relay it to the Biden campaign, and then the Biden campaign would not say anything like "I don't think anybody's saying they are inauthentic." If the Biden campaign did actually say that, it would be worth paying attention to (though there'd still be an awful lot of doubt about the Post's version of the story).

That link from HellToupee, though, points to this as its source. Not all that helpful, frankly. I googled "I don't think anybody is saying that they are inauthentic" and no reputable results turn up. All the links are to domains like marypatriotnews.com and the like. HellToupee's link says the quote is attributable to "a Biden surrogate" named Jenna Arnold. So I googled Jenna Arnold. Here's her Wikipedia page. No mention at all of Biden. She doesn't seem to be much of a "surrogate" -- almost certainly not affiliated with the campaign.

I googled some more. Here's the interview with Jenna Arnold. She doesn't identify as a Biden surrogate. It's clear from the interview as a whole that she has no inside information whatsoever about whether the emails are authentic, and she's not claiming anything one way or the other for the same reason that I'm not. She and I don't know anything other than what's been reported. Notice that the clip gets cut off during her answer at the end, LOL.

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55 minutes ago, Joe Summer said:

How far back do you want to go? The original claim was that Joe Biden (as Vice President) singlehandedly forced the country of Ukraine to fire an investigator who was supposedly investigating Hunter Biden. When that fake story failed to move the needle outside of Breitbart comment sections, they came up with a new twist, which was that they uncovered an email on a laptop in which some guy in Ukraine told Hunter that he would like to meet Joe.

So far, there's no confirmation: that the email is real; that Hunter saw it; that Hunter replied to it; that Hunter contacted Joe to set up the meeting; that Joe agreed to the meeting; that the meeting happened; or that the meeting resulted in any illegal or illicit activity from Joe.

so your saying in regards to Ukraine in your first paragraph that this is a fake story?

Yes, the story is fake. Biden didn't force Ukraine to fire the guy who was investigating Hunter.

(He, along with Obama and Republicans in Congress and several other influential leaders from the international community, forced Ukraine to fire a guy who wasn't investigating Hunter. Ukraine then replaced that guy with a prosecutor who did investigate Hunter. So, Joe actually made things worse for Hunter by putting U.S. and international interests ahead of the interests of his own family.)

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43 minutes ago, Joe Summer said:

Yes, the story is fake. Biden didn't force Ukraine to fire the guy who was investigating Hunter.

(He, along with Obama and Republicans in Congress and several other influential leaders from the international community, forced Ukraine to fire a guy who wasn't investigating Hunter. Ukraine then replaced that guy with a prosecutor who did investigate Hunter. So, Joe actually made things worse for Hunter by putting U.S. and international interests ahead of the interests of his own family.)

The only thing we can all pretty much agree on is that Hunter seems to be quite the scoundrel.

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"People are tired of Covid. People are saying, “Whatever, just leave us alone.” People are tired of hearing Fauci and all these idiots. He’s been here for, like, 500 years." -- Donald Trump

When The Donald is dropping lines like this, I don't really see how Biden can overcome it.  I don't wanna use the word Statesman, but it comes to mind.  

If The Donald continues to point out how he has saved dishwasher water pressure (obviously a sore subject for Biden, who is historically weak on domestic appliances) , it might be too late for Joe.  

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Biden Campaigns Funneled Over $70,000 To Hunter Biden, Nearly $150,000 To Entire Family

Democratic Presidential candidate Joe Biden has funneled nearly $150,000 to family members from his campaigns and Political Action Committees, including over almost $75,000 to his son Hunter Biden’s law firm.

These unearthed numbers come on the heels of a panoply of email threads and documents exposing Hunter Biden’s routine leveraging of his father’s name to ink lucrative lobbying and consulting contracts, often with foreign governments including the Chinese Communist Party.

The sizable sum sent to Biden family members throughout the former Veep’s Senate campaigns came from donations.

For example, Joe Biden’s Political Action Committee (PAC) “Unite Our States” paid $64,700.07 from 2005 to 2008 to the Oldaker, Biden, and Belair law firm, where Hunter Biden served as a founding partner.

Unite Our States Funding Hunter Biden-led Law Firm.

And Biden’s principal campaign committee, Citizens for Biden, also sent $9,104.00 to the Hunter Biden-led Oldaker, Biden, and Belair law firm between 2007 and 2008.

Biden’s Campaign Committee Paying Hunter Biden.

But Hunter Biden is not the only Biden family member to have benefited financially – nearly $80,000 – or professionally from Joe Biden holding political office.

Between 2002 and 2006, Citizens for Biden funneled nearly $60,000 to Biden family members.

Joe Biden’s sister Valerie Biden Owens pocketed $52,808.62 and his niece Catherine Owens profited $3,618.51 – payments both itemized as the individuals’ salaries.

And Joe Biden’s immediate family members – wife Jill, son Beau, and brother James – collectively received $1,765.94 in reimbursements from the campaign.

The practice of family members receiving money from politician’s political campaigns is rare, according to a 2016 report from the nonpartisan and often anti-Trump Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW).

As of 2016, only 16 Senators have paid family members salaries or fees, with just four of the 16, including Joe Biden, paying more than one family member. What’s more, Joe Biden placed fourth in the top five senators “paying the most money in salaries or fees to family members.”

In the words of President Trump: “The Bidens got rich while America got robbed.”

ANALYSIS: The Media’s Role, by Raheem Kassam

The media’s supposed role in reporting and scrutinizing Joe Biden’s record appears to have evaporated.

And while no one’s surprised, it is worth noting that once upon a time (i.e. in 2008), mainstream news outlets were covering the nepotism inherent to the Biden Crime Family’s modus operandi.

ABC News’s Emma Schwartz (now at PBS Frontline) reported on August 24th 2008:

The son of Barack Obama’s vice presidential pick, Sen. Joe Biden, is a top partner at a Washington law firm that has lobbied his father’s office, a family tie that could prove embarrassing for a campaign that has positioned itself as fighting lobbyists and special interests in Washington.

In the first six months of this year R. Hunter Biden, a founding partner of Oldaker, Biden & Belair, has worked on accounts that brought it $470,000 from nine clients, according to lobbying disclosure records.

Although firm members say Biden, 38, does not lobby his father, this kind of family tie, said Ellen Miller, executive director of the Sunlight Foundation, “raises the potential of a conflict of interest.”

But the connections between the law firm and Biden are very close.

For instance, William Oldaker, another named partner and former general counsel at the Federal Election Commission, has been Sen. Biden’s campaign treasurer for Congress.

Oldaker has advised Biden on campaign issues, first during the Senator’s failed 1988 presidential bid. And while Oldaker has said he does not lobby Biden personally, he has spoken with Biden’s staff about some clients.

One example was the University of Delaware, which Oldaker approached in 2002, shortly after founding the firm with Hunter Biden and Robert Belair. Since then, the university has paid Oldaker’s firm $1.5 million.

The payoff: as of 2006, $24.8 million in earmarks for defense research, a student-exchange program, and a drug-and-alcohol-studies program.

Since then, neither Schwartz nor ABC News have bothered to dig deeper and report into the cash-happy Biden family’s leveraging of their government and government-adjacent positions.
 

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Nothing would surprise me at this point

 

 

seems like some would add this —> :popcorn:

but not me , not my style

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1 hour ago, HellToupee said:

 

Biden Campaigns Funneled Over $70,000 To Hunter Biden, Nearly $150,000 To Entire Family

Democratic Presidential candidate Joe Biden has funneled nearly $150,000 to family members from his campaigns and Political Action Committees, including over almost $75,000 to his son Hunter Biden’s law firm.

These unearthed numbers come on the heels of a panoply of email threads and documents exposing Hunter Biden’s routine leveraging of his father’s name to ink lucrative lobbying and consulting contracts, often with foreign governments including the Chinese Communist Party.

The sizable sum sent to Biden family members throughout the former Veep’s Senate campaigns came from donations.

For example, Joe Biden’s Political Action Committee (PAC) “Unite Our States” paid $64,700.07 from 2005 to 2008 to the Oldaker, Biden, and Belair law firm, where Hunter Biden served as a founding partner.

Unite Our States Funding Hunter Biden-led Law Firm.

And Biden’s principal campaign committee, Citizens for Biden, also sent $9,104.00 to the Hunter Biden-led Oldaker, Biden, and Belair law firm between 2007 and 2008.

Biden’s Campaign Committee Paying Hunter Biden.

But Hunter Biden is not the only Biden family member to have benefited financially – nearly $80,000 – or professionally from Joe Biden holding political office.

Between 2002 and 2006, Citizens for Biden funneled nearly $60,000 to Biden family members.

Joe Biden’s sister Valerie Biden Owens pocketed $52,808.62 and his niece Catherine Owens profited $3,618.51 – payments both itemized as the individuals’ salaries.

And Joe Biden’s immediate family members – wife Jill, son Beau, and brother James – collectively received $1,765.94 in reimbursements from the campaign.

The practice of family members receiving money from politician’s political campaigns is rare, according to a 2016 report from the nonpartisan and often anti-Trump Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW).

As of 2016, only 16 Senators have paid family members salaries or fees, with just four of the 16, including Joe Biden, paying more than one family member. What’s more, Joe Biden placed fourth in the top five senators “paying the most money in salaries or fees to family members.”

In the words of President Trump: “The Bidens got rich while America got robbed.”

ANALYSIS: The Media’s Role, by Raheem Kassam

The media’s supposed role in reporting and scrutinizing Joe Biden’s record appears to have evaporated.

And while no one’s surprised, it is worth noting that once upon a time (i.e. in 2008), mainstream news outlets were covering the nepotism inherent to the Biden Crime Family’s modus operandi.

ABC News’s Emma Schwartz (now at PBS Frontline) reported on August 24th 2008:

The son of Barack Obama’s vice presidential pick, Sen. Joe Biden, is a top partner at a Washington law firm that has lobbied his father’s office, a family tie that could prove embarrassing for a campaign that has positioned itself as fighting lobbyists and special interests in Washington.

In the first six months of this year R. Hunter Biden, a founding partner of Oldaker, Biden & Belair, has worked on accounts that brought it $470,000 from nine clients, according to lobbying disclosure records.

Although firm members say Biden, 38, does not lobby his father, this kind of family tie, said Ellen Miller, executive director of the Sunlight Foundation, “raises the potential of a conflict of interest.”

But the connections between the law firm and Biden are very close.

For instance, William Oldaker, another named partner and former general counsel at the Federal Election Commission, has been Sen. Biden’s campaign treasurer for Congress.

Oldaker has advised Biden on campaign issues, first during the Senator’s failed 1988 presidential bid. And while Oldaker has said he does not lobby Biden personally, he has spoken with Biden’s staff about some clients.

One example was the University of Delaware, which Oldaker approached in 2002, shortly after founding the firm with Hunter Biden and Robert Belair. Since then, the university has paid Oldaker’s firm $1.5 million.

The payoff: as of 2006, $24.8 million in earmarks for defense research, a student-exchange program, and a drug-and-alcohol-studies program.

Since then, neither Schwartz nor ABC News have bothered to dig deeper and report into the cash-happy Biden family’s leveraging of their government and government-adjacent positions.
 

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Nothing would surprise me at this point

 

 

seems like some would add this —> :popcorn:

but not me , not my style

How much was paid to Mar-a-lago, Trump Tower, etc. for "campaign expenses" again?

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Interesting that in an article focused on $150,000 in payments to the Biden family (though almost half seems to have been paid to Hunter's law firm for work they did), the president says: “The Bidens got rich while America got robbed.”  Beyond @apalmer's valid question above, it seems ironic that a president who declares $400 million as peanuts would claim the Biden's are getting "rich" over these sums.

I'll admit, without looking into matters much, I don't find myself to be a fan of Hunter.  But on the issue of children reaping benefits from dad's position, I'm much more bothered by the Trump children (e.g., Ivanka and China) than I am Hunter Biden. 

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10 minutes ago, apalmer said:

How much was paid to Mar-a-lago, Trump Tower, etc. for "campaign expenses" again?

Yeah, I'm confused, are we supposed to be shocked that members of the Biden family might have profited from his campaign, or laugh at how bad they are at it compared to the Trumps?  I mean $150k?  Trump paid almost that much in hush money to a porn star.  

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9 minutes ago, AAABatteries said:

I take it that despite all the constant laughing and pointing out how flawed the polls are that most of the Trump fans now believe them.  No other explanation for the constant barrage of Hunter news.  I'm glad to see you guys have finally come around on the polls!

They're throwing anything and everything against the wall and hoping something will stick.

- He told a lie!
- He's old!
- He's wealthy!
- He made money in real estate!
- He profited from foreign deals!
- He helped his son get a job!
- He's inappropriate around women!

But for some reason, these topics don't seem to be resonating with the voters. Can't quite put my finger on why.

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3 minutes ago, parrot said:

Yeah, I'm confused, are we supposed to be shocked that members of the Biden family might have profited from his campaign, or laugh at how bad they are at it compared to the Trumps?  I mean $150k?  Trump paid almost that much in hush money to a porn star.  

Honestly, my take on all of this is fairly simple.  Either the plan is to find something that sticks to Biden and convinces people to not vote for him/not vote/vote for Trump OR probably more likely its to help give people the thing they need (read cover) to say, well I don't want to vote for Trump, but Biden is just as bad or - I didn't want to vote for Trump but the handling of X has convinced me that the MSM is against Trump so I need to vote for him/not vote/not vote for Biden.  They don't genuinely want to compare records on this.  It's a calculated play and to be fair, it's not really that different than politics as usual.  The thing that smells so bad is the timing, the players involved (like Rudy) and the sheer hypocrisy of it all.  I'm expecting next week for Rudy to reveal that Biden paid hush money to "Windy Randalls" - See, he did it too!

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It's very difficult to take most of this thread seriously.  Trying to throw stuff at Biden that Trump has already done 10 times worse on does not seem to be a good strategy.  Even if something actually stuck, most people are aware that Trump has done way worse.  People almost find it comical when a Republican gets indignant over what might be Joe Biden lying.

I think the strategy of portraying Biden as old with dementia was much better.  It seems they took a time out from this to pursue the mud-slinging, and I think it was a mistake.  

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1 hour ago, dkp993 said:

Left bad, right good.  Blue bad, red good.  Biden bad, Trump good.  

From the “Independent” guy that always takes the opposite position 24/7. I for one am shocked all the guys that have spent 4 years bashing anything Trump are downplaying it....completely shocking. :lmao:

 

We all get it, no need for the regulars to continually :fishing:the thread. No ones trying to change your mind after your 4 year rant, we accept it. 

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2 minutes ago, GoBirds said:

From the “Independent” guy that always takes the opposite position 24/7. I for one am shocked all the guys that have spent 4 years bashing anything Trump are downplaying it....completely shocking. :lmao:

 

We all get it, no need for the regulars to continually :fishing:the thread. 

Absent my distain for Trump (which I’ve never claimed centered or independent on) please tell me how I’m not “independent”.  Since I “always take the opposite position 24/7” it should be super easy to find my Pro Biden position. I’ll hang up and listen.  
 

*oh and btw, you’re a “regulars” too. 

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18 minutes ago, dkp993 said:

Absent my distain for Trump (which I’ve never claimed centered or independent on) please tell me how I’m not “independent”.  Since I “always take the opposite position 24/7” it should be super easy to find my Pro Biden position. I’ll hang up and listen.  
 

*oh and btw, you’re a “regulars” too. 

One problem many people in this forum have (and IRL too - me included) is just generalizing the position people have based on who they support.  I hate Trump but I've always maintained kind of neutral view on all the Russia stuff - I think it's still most likely he's been a pawn in all of this and is too stupid to pull off some of the stuff he's accused of.  But people assume if you hate Trump that you are a liberal and believe the "Russia hoax", etc.  And people assume if you support Trump that you are a conservation/GOP and that you are was fine with Russian interference.  I think there's plenty of people out there that prove these assumptions wrong.

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21 minutes ago, dkp993 said:

Absent my distain for Trump (which I’ve never claimed centered or independent on) please tell me how I’m not “independent”.  Since I “always take the opposite position 24/7” it should be super easy to find my Pro Biden position. I’ll hang up and listen.  
 

*oh and btw, you’re a “regulars” too. 

I’m not a big fan of a lot of Trump’s behavior but I wouldn’t call myself a regular Trump hater, there are others in here that have taken that to the next level. 
 

 

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A friend shared this tweet via FB from Brian Tyler Cohen: 

"Just checking in to see how the story on Hunter dropping off an incriminating laptop in DE while living in CA to a Trump-fan shop owner whose security footage was wiped and who def saw Hunter but is legally blind, written by Hannity's producer w/info from Giuliani is holding up."

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1 hour ago, tri-man 47 said:

A friend shared this tweet via FB from Brian Tyler Cohen: 

"Just checking in to see how the story on Hunter dropping off an incriminating laptop in DE while living in CA to a Trump-fan shop owner whose security footage was wiped and who def saw Hunter but is legally blind, written by Hannity's producer w/info from Giuliani is holding up."

"Alright guys, I have a plan. Now hear me out. A few weeks before the election, I've got an idea that is so crazy there's no way anyone will believe it was made up."

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2 hours ago, tri-man 47 said:

A friend shared this tweet via FB from Brian Tyler Cohen: 

"Just checking in to see how the story on Hunter dropping off an incriminating laptop in DE while living in CA to a Trump-fan shop owner whose security footage was wiped and who def saw Hunter but is legally blind, written by Hannity's producer w/info from Giuliani is holding up."

I just read this. It's even better:

So just so I follow this story:

Hunter Biden, who lives in Los Angeles, decides to fly 3000 miles across country, to drop off 3 MacBook Pros at a repair shop run by a blind guy who charges the insanely low price of $85. 

He gets off the plane and drunk drives to the repair shop (because there aren't repair shops in LA). He drops them off, signs a contract for repair and then disappears. The repair shop owner recovers and reads Hunter's *private* emails, a few of which mention a possible meeting with his dad and is so alarmed, he contacts the FBI.

The FBI arranges to pick up the hard drives, but the computer repair shop owner takes a totally normal step of copying them. Once he realizes the FBI isn't doing anything with them, he calls up the most credible ex-Mayor on Earth and hands them the contents of these drives.

That totally credible ex-Mayor sits on them for months, then chooses to release them 3 weeks before the election. The mainstream media asks to independently verify their validity but said ex-Mayor does what all people trying to prove facts do and ignores these requests.

No one who does data recovery would read through thousands of personal emails, even if the computer is abandoned. You'd just wipe the drives clean and sell the computers used.

If these emails were as alarming as it's being pushed, Giuliani wouldn't have sat on them for months. And if Giuliani wanted to prove their validity, he'd turn them over to forensic experts.

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2 hours ago, tri-man 47 said:

A friend shared this tweet via FB from Brian Tyler Cohen: 

"Just checking in to see how the story on Hunter dropping off an incriminating laptop in DE while living in CA to a Trump-fan shop owner whose security footage was wiped and who def saw Hunter but is legally blind, written by Hannity's producer w/info from Giuliani is holding up."

 

14 minutes ago, gianmarco said:

I just read this. It's even better:

So just so I follow this story:

Hunter Biden, who lives in Los Angeles, decides to fly 3000 miles across country, to drop off 3 MacBook Pros at a repair shop run by a blind guy who charges the insanely low price of $85. 

He gets off the plane and drunk drives to the repair shop (because there aren't repair shops in LA). He drops them off, signs a contract for repair and then disappears. The repair shop owner recovers and reads Hunter's *private* emails, a few of which mention a possible meeting with his dad and is so alarmed, he contacts the FBI.

The FBI arranges to pick up the hard drives, but the computer repair shop owner takes a totally normal step of copying them. Once he realizes the FBI isn't doing anything with them, he calls up the most credible ex-Mayor on Earth and hands them the contents of these drives.

That totally credible ex-Mayor sits on them for months, then chooses to release them 3 weeks before the election. The mainstream media asks to independently verify their validity but said ex-Mayor does what all people trying to prove facts do and ignores these requests.

No one who does data recovery would read through thousands of personal emails, even if the computer is abandoned. You'd just wipe the drives clean and sell the computers used.

If these emails were as alarming as it's being pushed, Giuliani wouldn't have sat on them for months. And if Giuliani wanted to prove their validity, he'd turn them over to forensic experts.

That is one magic loogie

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52 minutes ago, gianmarco said:

I just read this. It's even better:

So just so I follow this story:

Hunter Biden, who lives in Los Angeles, decides to fly 3000 miles across country, to drop off 3 MacBook Pros at a repair shop run by a blind guy who charges the insanely low price of $85. 

He gets off the plane and drunk drives to the repair shop (because there aren't repair shops in LA). He drops them off, signs a contract for repair and then disappears. The repair shop owner recovers and reads Hunter's *private* emails, a few of which mention a possible meeting with his dad and is so alarmed, he contacts the FBI.

The FBI arranges to pick up the hard drives, but the computer repair shop owner takes a totally normal step of copying them. Once he realizes the FBI isn't doing anything with them, he calls up the most credible ex-Mayor on Earth and hands them the contents of these drives.

That totally credible ex-Mayor sits on them for months, then chooses to release them 3 weeks before the election. The mainstream media asks to independently verify their validity but said ex-Mayor does what all people trying to prove facts do and ignores these requests.

No one who does data recovery would read through thousands of personal emails, even if the computer is abandoned. You'd just wipe the drives clean and sell the computers used.

If these emails were as alarming as it's being pushed, Giuliani wouldn't have sat on them for months. And if Giuliani wanted to prove their validity, he'd turn them over to forensic experts.

:lmao:

Starting to understand how Qanon is a "thing".  

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And Joe Biden’s immediate family members – wife Jill, son Beau, and brother James – collectively received $1,765.94 in reimbursements from the campaign.

 

Four people were reimbursed almost an average of $450 each over four years.  Wow.  What a scandal!
 

I have that much in reimbursements this month.

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