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4 minutes ago, Anarchy99 said:

You left out the part where Rudy shopped what he had around. And that Fox News wouldn’t take it. And that he gave it to the NY Post, whose writer didn’t even want his name attached to the story. 

Then let's also add that neither joe or hunter have claimed what has been released isnt authentic.

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Just now, Max Power said:

Then let's also add that neither joe or hunter have claimed what has been released isnt authentic.

They know to do so would give credence to an otherwise pointless and pathetic attempt at a smear campaign.

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1 minute ago, pantherclub said:

Guys Maxpower is a troll account that is all over different messageboards.  He is on the NCSU board under Toddfullersarmy posting the exact same stuff.  Just ignore him

Wrong again. Poor form as well. Do better.

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5 minutes ago, Max Power said:

It's a bigger story now than had they just denied it. The MSM coverup is obvious.  

Or, and I'm just guessing here, most reputable journalists know this story is a steaming pile of whatsit, and they know better than to listen to or believe anything stated by this administration about pretty much anyone, especially when Giuliani is involved.

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Just now, Kal El said:

Or, and I'm just guessing here, most reputable journalists know this story is a steaming pile of whatsit, and they know better than to listen to or believe anything stated by this administration about pretty much anyone, especially when Giuliani is involved.

The story is out there. The cat is out of the bag any reputable journalist would investigate it, report on it and confirm or deny it. They aren't and are instead censoring the story. Real journalists of the world are frustrated by it and that includes some Trump hating liberal reporters as well. 

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3 minutes ago, Max Power said:

The story is out there. The cat is out of the bag any reputable journalist would investigate it, report on it and confirm or deny it. They aren't and are instead censoring the story. Real journalists of the world are frustrated by it and that includes some Trump hating liberal reporters as well. 

please direct me to the real story toddfullersarmy

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19 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Then let's also add that neither joe or hunter have claimed what has been released isnt authentic.

Yes and Hillary never claimed that running a kiddie porn sex trafficking ring in a basement pizza place in DC wasn't authentic either.

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1 minute ago, Max Power said:

Laptop was abandoned at a repair shop

Shop owner saw things worth reporting to the FBI and did so.

Rudy also got a copy of the hard drive.

Rudy saw something illegal and turned it over to authorities. 

1. Why did Rudy get a copy?

2. What are the Delaware State Police going to do that the FBI isn’t?

3. How is it being verified that this is actually the same hard drive?

4. Why is the shop owner making copies of something that he turned over to the FBI?

5. If this hard drive contains child porn and whatever else is being claimed, wouldn’t there be serious legal consequences for the shop owner copying and distributing it and Rudy possessing it while knowing the content and not turned it over to authorities immediately?

When you answer each of these questions with additional conspiracy theories, I hope for a just a moment you consider that Rudy has been digging for dirt in Ukraine, dealing with shady figures including someone identified as a Russian Intelligence officer looking to spread false information to influence the elections. I know you won’t but sometimes all we have is hope. Hope.

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Clinging to Russian planted conspiracy theories that “need to be researched” is an absolute joke. It’s a childish distraction. These QAnon people need to grow up. Yes, the pandemic is hard and it would be nice to play in fantasy land instead. We don’t have time for this nonsense now. 

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I recall reading this story before...

 

'State Department official George Kent told congressional investigators Trump wanted the president of Ukraine to "go to microphone and say 'investigations, Biden, and Clinton.'"

Kent also described voicing his objections to Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani's involvement in an effort to convince Ukraine to launch specific investigations.'

 

...oh, yeeeah.

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8 minutes ago, Max Power said:

The story is out there. The cat is out of the bag any reputable journalist would investigate it, report on it and confirm or deny it. They aren't and are instead censoring the story. Real journalists of the world are frustrated by it and that includes some Trump hating liberal reporters as well. 

Big tech, the Democrat Party and the MSM are working overtime to suppress this story with lies, deflections and RUSSIA!1!! Imagine if Biden were to actually actually win. The Democrat Party will be more corrupt than ever with a license to lie. 


Glenn Greenwald@ggreenwald

 hope journalists realize: if Biden wins, and you report anything incriminating about his administration - even if you ask critical questions - you're going to get accused of spreading Russian disinformation and helping the Kremlin.

That's the toxic template being implemented.

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1318643927369568256?s=21

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4 minutes ago, Biff84 said:

1. Why did Rudy get a copy?

2. What are the Delaware State Police going to do that the FBI isn’t?

3. How is it being verified that this is actually the same hard drive?

4. Why is the shop owner making copies of something that he turned over to the FBI?

5. If this hard drive contains child porn and whatever else is being claimed, wouldn’t there be serious legal consequences for the shop owner copying and distributing it and Rudy possessing it while knowing the content and not turned it over to authorities immediately?

When you answer each of these questions with additional conspiracy theories, I hope for a just a moment you consider that Rudy has been digging for dirt in Ukraine, dealing with shady figures including someone identified as a Russian Intelligence officer looking to spread false information to influence the elections. I know you won’t but sometimes all we have is hope. Hope.

I dont have the answer to a lot of those questions, I was relaying information that is happening. I think its OCT 22 the FBI needs to make a statement and we will find out a lot more then. 

I know you're eager for this to be Russian Disinformation, but right now nothing is pointing to that.

I think getting to the bottom of if Joe Biden was selling his access for profit is the biggest story here. Why dont you want to get to the bottom of that?

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6 minutes ago, Max Power said:

The story is out there. The cat is out of the bag any reputable journalist would investigate it, report on it and confirm or deny it. They aren't and are instead censoring the story. Real journalists of the world are frustrated by it and that includes some Trump hating liberal reporters as well. 

I highly doubt that. Journalists know big stories are literally what makes a career, and a potentially major story like this, if true, would put any journalist on the map. Of course, that's all before we find out that Giuliani isn't a prosecutor, his honesty is questionable on his best day, we know Hunter Biden has done some shady stuff, but he and his father are two separate entities and thus a scandal involving the son is not necessarily connected to the father. Besides, Hunter isn't running for office, and if he was, I'd still vote for him over Trump, because Trump's corruption scandals dwarf anything Hunter ever did. In fact, it's accusations like these that are almost entirely based on deflection and mudslinging that make me feel a little bit better that I voted for Biden yesterday.

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Just now, Max Power said:

I dont have the answer to a lot of those questions, I was relaying information that is happening. I think its OCT 22 the FBI needs to make a statement and we will find out a lot more then. 

I know you're eager for this to be Russian Disinformation, but right now nothing is pointing to that.

I think getting to the bottom of if Joe Biden was selling his access for profit is the biggest story here. Why dont you want to get to the bottom of that?

Because that’s not the story. They are trying to pull a conspiracy out of thin air because they couldn’t find anything legitimate to turn people against Biden. The timing sets it up perfectly for something that can’t be settled before the election, attempting to create doubt going into Election Day.

You don’t want the claims investigated, you want the claims to become a news story. All they want is an announcement of an investigation, just like Ukraine.

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BREAKING: Trump Tax Records show a secretly held bank account in China. The account did not show up on Trump’s public financial disclosures, where he must list personal assets, because they are held under corporate names.

Once again, when the Trump administration accuses someone of something, it turns out to be something he did.

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1 minute ago, pantherclub said:

And this has to do with Joe Biden how?

I'd say the selling access to Daddy and using that money for these disgusting illegal habits is what makes it all part of the full picture. We'll see if it gets exposed, pace yourself. 

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2 minutes ago, -fish- said:

Once again, when the Trump administration accuses someone of something, it turns out to be something he did.

Yeah, cause you can repost a Tweet from Robert J DeNault. We'll go ahead and mark this one down as fact cause a guy named fish always posting Trump hate says so....case closed. :lmao:

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5 minutes ago, GoBirds said:

I'd say the selling access to Daddy and using that money for these disgusting illegal habits is what makes it all part of the full picture. We'll see if it gets exposed, pace yourself. 

Spoiler alert: nothing is likely to happen. The Trump administration loves to accuse others of what they themselves have done, and even if Hunter gets busted, it's his own fault, not Joe's.

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7 minutes ago, -fish- said:

Once again, when the Trump administration accuses someone of something, it turns out to be something he did.

Like the time the Democrats accused Trump of colluding with Russia, when they were actually colluding with a foreign agent to get Russian dirt in a phony dossier. Or the time they impeached Trump for Biden’s crimes in Ukraine. 

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8 minutes ago, Biff84 said:

Because that’s not the story. They are trying to pull a conspiracy out of thin air because they couldn’t find anything legitimate to turn people against Biden. The timing sets it up perfectly for something that can’t be settled before the election, attempting to create doubt going into Election Day.

You don’t want the claims investigated, you want the claims to become a news story. All they want is an announcement of an investigation, just like Ukraine.

You have no idea what drives me as a person. You're generalizing based on your political bias. 

I want to know what is on that laptop dealing with Joe is authenticated and then the American people can judge it accordingly. 

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8 hours ago, Anarchy99 said:

The only one that should be looking at it is the owner. At this point I am not sure who would be considered the rightful owner, but it sounds like the repair shop was poking around on it pretty early on. Maybe at a certain point the shop assumes ownership after the laptop was left for an extended time, but even then I am not sure if that makes transfer of what ever was on the laptop allowed. From a legal / chain of custody perspective, once the drive was copied and ended up with Giuliani and then he copied it again to give to the Post, that makes verification of anything on it hard (and probably would not hold up in a court of law . . . none of those people should have been allowed access to what was on a civilian's computer). At the time the laptop was dropped off, what probable cause was there for anyone to review anything on the laptop?

But as was just posted, you are making the case for the Democrats. If anyone should be looking at it, it should be the FBI. Whether they staked claim to the hard drive legally or not, they have had it for a year and said nothing. Yet Rudy and the Post came out and made all sorts of allegations and the Bidens don't even have access to the information that they are getting called out on.

So if you believe the only ones that should be looking at the information on the hard drive should be the FBI, then you by extension agree that whatever is on it should not be plastered across print, broadcast, and social media . . . and the Bidens should not have to speak to this in public.

What's so hard to understand about when giving away a hard drive that includes the data on it?

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You don't even know whose laptop that is.

The most likely crime committed in this whole fishing trip is illegally accessing private data to benefit Trump's campaign. The 2nd most likely crime committed in this whole fishing trip is fabricating data to benefit Trump's campaign.

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6 minutes ago, Kal El said:

Spoiler alert: nothing is likely to happen. The Trump administration loves to accuse others of what they themselves have done, and even if Hunter gets busted, it's his own fault, not Joe's.

I'm not seeing anyone predicting an outcome, and don't take this the wrong way but after whiffing on the Russia hoax for 4 whole years I'm not sure you are who I would ask for a prediction friend. 

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1 minute ago, Gr00vus said:

You don't even know whose laptop that is.

The most likely crime committed in this whole fishing trip is illegally accessing private data to benefit Trump's campaign. The 2nd most likely crime committed in this whole fishing trip is fabricating data to benefit Trump's campaign.

:shrug:

3 minutes ago, tonydead said:

What's so hard to understand about when giving away a hard drive that includes the data on it?

 

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55 minutes ago, Max Power said:
57 minutes ago, pantherclub said:

Guys Maxpower is a troll account that is all over different messageboards.  He is on the NCSU board under Toddfullersarmy posting the exact same stuff.  Just ignore him

Wrong again. Poor form as well. Do better.

This is weak sauce panther. In my opinion Max has never displayed any behavior that could be called troll-ish. Just because someone has a different point of view then yours that does not make one a troll. I often don’t agree with Max’s opinions but I’ve never seen him be disrespectful or handle himself in anything but he straight forward manner.  And honestly on a board that is 10 to 1 against his opinion that’s not an easy thing to do.
 

Max is one of the good ones and I appreciate his point of view around here . It’s needed. 

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5 minutes ago, tonydead said:

This private data nonsense needs to stop. Unless it was stolen (hacked by Russia!).  Its no longer Hunters property.  

Are you talking about the physical property or the data?

I mean, I have data stored on a hard drive owned by Google, does that mean they can snoop around and turn over evidence of non-criminal acts to the FBI?  (Reminder - it is not a crime to arrange a business meeting).

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13 minutes ago, GoBirds said:

I'm not seeing anyone predicting an outcome, and don't take this the wrong way but after whiffing on the Russia hoax for 4 whole years I'm not sure you are who I would ask for a prediction friend. 

Oh, I don't care about Russia, even though they interfered on behalf of Trump, but since collusion isn't a criminal charge, nothing was going to happen. By the way, any word on that Barr report? It has about as much of a chance at making an impact as this space rock that's supposed to be close by early November anyway.

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Adam Housley

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1/2 Breaking: Multiple FBI sources...The FBI investigation into the laptop has been ongoing since December of 2019...there's a lot going on behind the scenes. A lot. There is a massive amount of info.

From multiple agents: "They knew right away it wasn't a Russia operation. It went right to the top of the FBI because a Biden name was attached. That's normal with any well known name. The question that needs asking, why wasn't any info about Russia/Ukraine shared with Congress

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7 minutes ago, moleculo said:

Are you talking about the physical property or the data?

I mean, I have data stored on a hard drive owned by Google, does that mean they can snoop around and turn over evidence of non-criminal acts to the FBI?  (Reminder - it is not a crime to arrange a business meeting).

Wait, I thought the right was all about privacy and personal property and stuff, or is that just for themselves?

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9 minutes ago, moleculo said:

Are toy talking about the physical property or the data?

I mean, I have data stored on a hard drive owned by Google, does that mean they can snoop around and turn over evidence of non-criminal acts to the FBI?  (Reminder - it is not a crime to arrange a business meeting).

Have you read the terms of service?  Google is snooping everything, it's what they do.  

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3 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Adam Housley

@adamhousley

1/2 Breaking: Multiple FBI sources...The FBI investigation into the laptop has been ongoing since December of 2019...there's a lot going on behind the scenes. A lot. There is a massive amount of info.

From multiple agents: "They knew right away it wasn't a Russia operation. It went right to the top of the FBI because a Biden name was attached. That's normal with any well known name. The question that needs asking, why wasn't any info about Russia/Ukraine shared with Congress

So they've had the same amount of time it takes to carry a baby to term, with bupkis to show for it. Way to spend tax dollars wisely!

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6 minutes ago, moleculo said:

Are you talking about the physical property or the data?

I mean, I have data stored on a hard drive owned by Google, does that mean they can snoop around and turn over evidence of non-criminal acts to the FBI?  (Reminder - it is not a crime to arrange a business meeting).

Is your claim that if a laptop is abandoned and becomes property of the holder, only the laptop itself and not the data within belongs to the holder?

Your example isnt the same as what happened with Hunter. 

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1 minute ago, Max Power said:

Adam Housley

@adamhousley

1/2 Breaking: Multiple FBI sources...The FBI investigation into the laptop has been ongoing since December of 2019...there's a lot going on behind the scenes. A lot. There is a massive amount of info.

From multiple agents: "They knew right away it wasn't a Russia operation. It went right to the top of the FBI because a Biden name was attached. That's normal with any well known name. The question that needs asking, why wasn't any info about Russia/Ukraine shared with Congress

Because Pelosi/Schiff blocked it from being used because it would blow up their partisan impeachment and implicate the Biden’s (the real criminals). The investigation into this is going to this cover up is going to be amazing. :popcorn: If I were a Democrat I would almost hope Biden loses. 

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6 minutes ago, Kal El said:

Oh, I don't care about Russia, even though they interfered on behalf of Trump, but since collusion isn't a criminal charge, nothing was going to happen. By the way, any word on that Barr report? It has about as much of a chance at making an impact as this space rock that's supposed to be close by early November anyway.

I would pivot off Russia too after how that went down. :hifive:

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