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2 minutes ago, Kal El said:

So they've had the same amount of time it takes to carry a baby to term, with bupkis to show for it. Way to spend tax dollars wisely!

I dont think the FBI having this laptop since Dec is going to reflect well on them, but that's just a guess. 

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13 minutes ago, tonydead said:

This private data nonsense needs to stop. Unless it was stolen (hacked by Russia!).  Its no longer Hunters property.  

So if you have clinical research on your laptop that reveals a cure for cancer, a screenplay you wrote for the next Mission Impossible movie, or the beta copy for Fortnite 2, then according to you those all become property of a computer repair shop because you didn’t pay an $85 bill?

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3 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Is your claim that if a laptop is abandoned and becomes property of the holder, only the laptop itself and not the data within belongs to the holder?

Your example isnt the same as what happened with Hunter. 

How so?

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2 minutes ago, GoBirds said:

I would pivot off Russia too after how that went down. :hifive:

I never cared about Russia in the first place. Bad drivers, abysmal weather, and a language that is impossible to read. However, calling it a hoax does not in fact make it a hoax.

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5 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

Because Pelosi/Schiff blocked it from being used because it would blow up their partisan impeachment and implicate the Biden’s (the real criminals). The investigation into this is going to this cover up is going to be amazing. :popcorn: If I were a Democrat I would almost hope Biden loses. 

Hopefully this occurs and the protection he receives doesn’t continue. The next level scrutiny Trump has received should be precedence going forward....if so get your popcorn ready. 

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5 minutes ago, moleculo said:

How so?

If you stop paying for cloud storage it probably just gets overwritten and your stuff is gone. I dont see that as destroying your property.

Google shouldn't be looking through your data if you're a customer in good standing.

Hunter was a customer in default. 

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1 minute ago, Max Power said:

If you stop paying for cloud storage it probably just gets overwritten and your stuff is gone. I dont see that as destroying your property.

Google shouldn't be looking through your data if you're a customer in good standing.

Hunter was a customer in default. 

Is it typical for payment status to mean you abdicate your digital rights?  That doesn't sound correct to me but I'm not a law talking guy.

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3 minutes ago, Anarchy99 said:

So if you have clinical research on your laptop that reveals a cure for cancer, a screenplay you wrote for the next Mission Impossible movie, or the beta copy for Fortnite 2, then according to you those all become property of a computer repair shop because you didn’t pay an $85 bill?

Absolutely. 

When I buy old 35 mm cameras at pawn shops, and they happen to still have a roll of film in them, I get them developed and keep them if I like them. 

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1 minute ago, Max Power said:

If you stop paying for cloud storage it probably just gets overwritten and your stuff is gone. I dont see that as destroying your property.

Google shouldn't be looking through your data if you're a customer in good standing.

Hunter was a customer in default. 

IIRC, when I used a computer repair shop, if items went unclaimed or unpaid for, the fine print was that they got to wipe the computer and drive clean to resell it. But they don’t own any intellectual property, communication, files, pictures, or documents contained on it. 

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13 minutes ago, moleculo said:

Let's see the repair shop guys terms of service.

Here is an example. 

2a. ABANDONMENT & STORAGE: Any and all equipment left over 30 days from the date of completion becomes property of The Local Circuit in lieu of payment. Said equipment will be disposed, recycled, or sold at our discretion. If Client requests equipment be stored for more than 30 days, a storage fee of $10 per day from the date of repair completion until property is claimed will be incurred by Client.

They may be obligated to report the data to the FBI even if it didnt become their property.

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Just now, moleculo said:

Is it typical for payment status to mean you abdicate your digital rights?  That doesn't sound correct to me but I'm not a law talking guy.

I've only heard that Delaware state law deems property abandoned after 90 days once it's ready for pickup and it becomes property of the holder at that point. 

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Just now, tonydead said:

Here is an example. 

2a. ABANDONMENT & STORAGE: Any and all equipment left over 30 days from the date of completion becomes property of The Local Circuit in lieu of payment. Said equipment will be disposed, recycled, or sold at our discretion. If Client requests equipment be stored for more than 30 days, a storage fee of $10 per day from the date of repair completion until property is claimed will be incurred by Client.

They may be obligated to report the data to the FBI even if it didnt become their property.

Was there child porn?  Was there anything illegal at all?  It sounds like the repair shop owner had no legal standing to broadcast any of this, including turning it over to the FBI.

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27 minutes ago, Max Power said:

Adam Housley

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From multiple agents: "They knew right away it wasn't a Russia operation. It went right to the top of the FBI because a Biden name was attached. That's normal with any well known name. The question that needs asking, why wasn't any info about Russia/Ukraine shared with Congress

Also come on, the only reason they came forward now was because they got caught. :lmao: 

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2 minutes ago, Max Power said:

I've only heard that Delaware state law deems property abandoned after 90 days once it's ready for pickup and it becomes property of the holder at that point. 

The physical hard drive, sure.  I am questioning the content.  

What about access to data stored on a remote server that the laptop has stored passwords to - I.e. Facebook login, Gmail, etc?

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32 minutes ago, Max Power said:

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1/2 Breaking: Multiple FBI sources...The FBI investigation into the laptop has been ongoing since December of 2019...there's a lot going on behind the scenes. A lot. There is a massive amount of info.

From multiple agents: "They knew right away it wasn't a Russia operation. It went right to the top of the FBI because a Biden name was attached. That's normal with any well known name. The question that needs asking, why wasn't any info about Russia/Ukraine shared with Congress

I'm thinking they sat on it because they knew it was not legally obtained.  Fruit of the poisionous tree.

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2 minutes ago, moleculo said:

The physical hard drive, sure.  I am questioning the content.  

What about access to data stored on a remote server that the laptop has stored passwords to - I.e. Facebook login, Gmail, etc?

I dont know enough about data property laws, but from what has been reported, it  doesnt sound like he did anything illegal. 

 

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4 minutes ago, moleculo said:

I'm thinking they sat on it because they knew it was not legally obtained.  Fruit of the poisionous tree.

What's on it should be their concern, not how it was obtained. If Rudy is telling the truth, there is an underage victim out there they need to be looking into. 

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3 minutes ago, Max Power said:

What's on it should be their concern, not how it was obtained. If Rudy is telling the truth, there is an underage victim out there they need to be looking into. 

Yep, and if you Google it there are stories of computer repair companies coming across illegal things and reported it to police and they make the arrest. It’s not against the law to report illegal things you find on a computer. 

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7 minutes ago, GoBirds said:

Yep, and if you Google it there are stories of computer repair companies coming across illegal things and reported it to police and they make the arrest. It’s not against the law to report illegal things you find on a computer. 

There’s a difference between reporting something to the authorities and copying an entire drive and giving it to the attorney of the president (or anyone else for that matter).

If there were allegations of child pornography, there would need to be a warrant to search The computer for pornographic images. But the authorities would have no reason to go searching through private communication and 40,000 emails on the chance their might be the potential for a questionable business transaction. I’m certainly not an attorney, but I can’t see how it’s any different than getting a search warrant to search someone’s car in their garage but finding a kilo of cocaine under the sink in their bathroom. That’s not what they were there for. 

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8 minutes ago, GoBirds said:

Yep, and if you Google it there are stories of computer repair companies coming across illegal things and reported it to police and they make the arrest. It’s not against the law to report illegal things you find on a computer. 

What was illegal?

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6 minutes ago, GoBirds said:
12 minutes ago, Max Power said:

What's on it should be their concern, not how it was obtained. If Rudy is telling the truth, there is an underage victim out there they need to be looking into. 

Yep, and if you Google it there are stories of computer repair companies coming across illegal things and reported it to police and they make the arrest. It’s not against the law to report illegal things you find on a computer. 

Has the repair shop guy claimed that he found "illegal things" on the computer?

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1 minute ago, moleculo said:

What was illegal?

I am guessing that there are pics or videos of illicit sexually activity and they thought someone was under age. At least that’s how they will frame it and present as justification to bring in the FBI or local law enforcement. 

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2 minutes ago, Anarchy99 said:
5 minutes ago, moleculo said:

What was illegal?

I am guessing that there are pics or videos of illicit sexually activity and they thought someone was under age. At least that’s how they will frame it and present as justification to bring in the FBI or local law enforcement. 

The FBI has had this hard drive for 10 months. If there was really a video of illegal sexual activity on there, then they would not be moving this slowly.

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5 minutes ago, Anarchy99 said:

I am guessing that there are pics or videos of illicit sexually activity and they thought someone was under age. At least that’s how they will frame it and present as justification to bring in the FBI or local law enforcement. 

They already said why he gave it to the FBI.  The shop owner saw the impeachment hearings on TV, realized he had Hunters laptop and did some word searches on the laptop.  He tried to give it to the FBI to aid their investigation.  The FBI sat on it so he called some senators.  They never got back to him so he called Rudy.

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2 minutes ago, Joe Summer said:

The FBI has had this hard drive for 10 months. If there was really a video of illegal sexual activity on there, then they would not be moving this slowly.

I have to agree, they tend to not fool around with that sort of stuff. That's why I doubt there's anything of substance there.

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2 minutes ago, Kal El said:
7 minutes ago, Joe Summer said:

The FBI has had this hard drive for 10 months. If there was really a video of illegal sexual activity on there, then they would not be moving this slowly.

I have to agree, they tend to not fool around with that sort of stuff. That's why I doubt there's anything of substance there.

Nonetheless, I will not be surprised to see Trump announce during the next debate that Hunter Biden has been arrested for child porn. Then I will not be surprised to see Bill Barr quietly drop the charges the day after the election.

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So basically the good agents are learning the bigs at the FBI covered up another Democrat scandal. 

 

Adam Housley@adamhousley

Look at my entire report. The folks commenting aren't involved in the investigation. They are coming forward because they are frustrated with the lack of action and issues at FBI headquarters. They are learning like you and I, but clearly have inside info they can get.
 

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15 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

So basically the good agents are learning the bigs at the FBI covered up another Democrat scandal. 

 

Adam Housley@adamhousley

Look at my entire report. The folks commenting aren't involved in the investigation. They are coming forward because they are frustrated with the lack of action and issues at FBI headquarters. They are learning like you and I, but clearly have inside info they can get.
 

This is Hunter Bidens laptop? Not Joe Bidens laptop. 

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55 minutes ago, Widbil83 said:

So basically the good agents are learning the bigs at the FBI covered up another Democrat scandal. 

 

Adam Housley@adamhousley

Look at my entire report. The folks commenting aren't involved in the investigation. They are coming forward because they are frustrated with the lack of action and issues at FBI headquarters. They are learning like you and I, but clearly have inside info they can get.
 

So they’re illegally leaking info?  

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Is anyone discussing the fact that Hunter Biden doesn't live in Delaware anymore and why he would have flown there to drop off a broken laptop to get repaired with a blind computer repair guy who can't say for sure whether or not it was Hunter that came into the shop? And then in the midst of an impeachment scandal wholly surrounding Hunter's business dealings decided to leave it there and never pick it up when it apparently had incriminating evidence against him and his father and gave credence to the Trump defense during the impeachment? And this narrative (and the supposed laptop) is solely coming from Rudy Giuliani who was also implicated in the impeachment scandal for trying to dig up (make up) dirt on the Bidens?

This seems plausible to people?

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5 hours ago, TheMagus said:

Is anyone discussing the fact that Hunter Biden doesn't live in Delaware anymore and why he would have flown there to drop off a broken laptop to get repaired with a blind computer repair guy who can't say for sure whether or not it was Hunter that came into the shop? And then in the midst of an impeachment scandal wholly surrounding Hunter's business dealings decided to leave it there and never pick it up when it apparently had incriminating evidence against him and his father and gave credence to the Trump defense during the impeachment? And this narrative (and the supposed laptop) is solely coming from Rudy Giuliani who was also implicated in the impeachment scandal for trying to dig up (make up) dirt on the Bidens?

This seems plausible to people?

I still don’t really get why the emails would be stored on a hard drive. If someone gets my laptop, can they read every email I’ve read on that computer? Who here can read an email from their laptop if it’s not connected to the internet, even an old one that you’ve read? 
 

 

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7 hours ago, BobbyLayne said:

see, he’s an addict, so off behavior is the norm. this all makes at least as much sense as say...IDK, Trump is secretly saving the world from pedos.

gotta watch for signals, bruh. it’s all there right in front of you. #thinkferyourself

Thats a weak excuse

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2 hours ago, Snorkelson said:

I still don’t really get why the emails would be stored on a hard drive. If someone gets my laptop, can they read every email I’ve read on that computer? Who here can read an email from their laptop if it’s not connected to the internet, even an old one that you’ve read? 
 

 

That and you would think they wouldnt be emailing each other about criminal activity.  So much if not all of this story makes zero sense.

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1 minute ago, pantherclub said:

That and you would think they wouldnt be emailing each other about criminal activity.  So much if not all of this story makes zero sense.

If a story sounds unbelievable, it probably is. This whole story is logically unsound, but because it involves a politician's son, the opposing side gobbles it up faster than kids eat Halloween candy when they get home.

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9 minutes ago, Kal El said:

If a story sounds unbelievable, it probably is. This whole story is logically unsound, but because it involves a politician's son, the opposing side gobbles it up faster than kids eat Halloween candy when they get home.

So I am not a lawyer but wonder since Rudy G is going on every outlet saying Hunter had child porn on his PC does that open up him to some massive lawsuits if/when nothing comes of this?

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2 hours ago, Snorkelson said:

I still don’t really get why the emails would be stored on a hard drive. If someone gets my laptop, can they read every email I’ve read on that computer? Who here can read an email from their laptop if it’s not connected to the internet, even an old one that you’ve read? 
 

 

I'm not an Apple guy, but aren't Macs password protected?  Even if this guy can mirror the data off of the hard drive, without a password how does he access all of the data? further, do Macs typically store e-mail on local drives?

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8 hours ago, TheMagus said:

Is anyone discussing the fact that Hunter Biden doesn't live in Delaware anymore and why he would have flown there to drop off a broken laptop to get repaired with a blind computer repair guy who can't say for sure whether or not it was Hunter that came into the shop? And then in the midst of an impeachment scandal wholly surrounding Hunter's business dealings decided to leave it there and never pick it up when it apparently had incriminating evidence against him and his father and gave credence to the Trump defense during the impeachment? And this narrative (and the supposed laptop) is solely coming from Rudy Giuliani who was also implicated in the impeachment scandal for trying to dig up (make up) dirt on the Bidens?

This seems plausible to people?

Well when you put that way...

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