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2020-21 NBA *Playoffs* Thread: Bucks are the champs and you can take that to the bank bromigos (11 Viewers)
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identikit
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Insein
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Craig_MiamiFL
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I agree McCollum will be the guy to go. You can't claim to be "one of the NBA best backcourts" and (potentially) lose to backcourt of Rivers and Kamakaze. Part of me still refuses to believe Blazers will actually lose this series to a injury-ravaged Nuggets team.
I'd have dealt McCollum already when Trent Jr was there but I still thought they did well enough with transactions (Covington/jones Jr/Powell) with limited ability to maneuver to take another step this year
Kev4029
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For most improved?
He was worse statistically across the board other than a huge jump in usage and a moderate jump in assist rate. He was below league average on shooting efficiency.
scoobus
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Chaos Commish
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That was an awful overturn. KD saw him there and lowered his shoulder. Smart absolutely even got his feet set before contact. That’s a play I’ve seen on inbounds plays tons of times to get a charge.
wikkidpissah
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proud of my frikkin city - called Uncle Borderline's race-card bluff and booed him into submission..
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Craig_MiamiFL
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Nice win by Celts. Another cool 50 from Oubre
Jayrod
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modogg
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I know Frosty loves ref talk, but I do think this one is a little fishy with Chris Paul and Scott Fisher:
Chris Paul: “They’re [Lakers] shooting a lot of free throws, last game. Tonight. 11 games in a row. 11 games in a row.” Referencing the fact that Chris Paul’s teams have the lost the last 11 games officiated by Scott Foster.
Is he on to something, or is this one of those "nothing to see here?" things?
Chris Paul: “They’re [Lakers] shooting a lot of free throws, last game. Tonight. 11 games in a row. 11 games in a row.” Referencing the fact that Chris Paul’s teams have the lost the last 11 games officiated by Scott Foster.
Is he on to something, or is this one of those "nothing to see here?" things?
Desert_Power
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These calls on Kahwi vs Kleber 
Desert_Power
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caustic
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wikkidpissah
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you hustle when nobody else is, you win. you hustle when everybody else is, maybe not so much. called this when y'all first started getting excited
wilked
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AAABatteries
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The Knicks aren’t very good either. Maybe if we merged our rosters after round 1 we would give the Sixers a series but as it is whoever wins this one is out in 4-5 games next round.
The Kansas Comet
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As far as the free throws go, Phoenix was 29th in the league in FT attempts per game, while the Lakers were 5th, even without Davis and Lebron for much of the year. With those two, it stands to reason that the disparity would stand and even grow, especially since they have nobody at all to deal with Davis when he wants to play aggressively. Add to that the previously referenced dirty tactics employed by Paul, and I think he's just a veteran whining in hopes of getting more calls in the next game.
Jayrod
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Wow. I hadn't seen this until just now.
I don't get it at all. I looked and looked for some justification to overturn the call and I can't see anything that they could hang their hat on. I believe there is some rule about allowing a player room to avoid the contact when off ball, but there was plenty of room there and Durant even blasted through and finished Smart off with extending his arms into him. Smart was moving a bit, but it was only in maintenance of legal guarding position, which is allowed. Very odd and glad it didn't cost them the game.
msudaisy26
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That should have been the call stands. In real time you can call a block or charge, but replay shows nothing to overturn either call.
Deamon
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The Kansas Comet
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Just a Bucks barrage here in the 3rd quarter. Miami has had no answer - 6 points in almost 8 minutes.
Jayrod
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What a difference a year makes.
I was pretty high on the dropping of Bledsoe and adding Holiday. Not sure if that explains all of the difference between these 2 teams over last season, but Jrue is a much more complete and effective player.
Meanwhile, Giannis with a triple double.
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Navin Johnson
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That's such weak defense. KD's shoulder doesn't dip until after the flop. If they stsrt rewarding that garbage off the ball it's really going to become unwatchable.
Jayrod
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What? Do you know how easy it is to score if you can just run and cut wherever you want?
A huge part of defense is beating the offensive player to the spot and maintaining a legal guarding position. If you know where a guy wants to go, the best play is to get there first. If the offensive player insists on going through you anyway, that is illegal and a foul. That is exactly what happened on this play and will continue to happen in games at all levels.
I honestly have no idea what you are getting at here. It is literally a foundational principal of the game.
msudaisy26
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Mark Eaton, a former two-time NBA Defensive Player of the Year for the Utah Jazz, died Friday night after apparently crashing his bike, the team announced Saturday.
He was 64.
He was 64.
Navin Johnson
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If you've ever played, it's a dead giveaway when the defender's arms come forward on contact that he hired down on his own volition and is flopping. Should be a no call but don't mind the overturn to disincentivize this tactic.
Navin Johnson
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How does the lead call goaltending there?
Jayrod
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Yes I played in college and have officiated HS ball for 10 years. Just because a player goes with the contact and doesn't fight it doesn't mean it isn't an offensive foul. In fact, that is how like 90% of charges are taken. If the defender fights the contact and doesn't allow the offensive player to run them over, they usually get called for the foul.Embellishing contact happens often in the NBA and should be punished more often. That was not the case there.
Jayrod
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Not sure about NBA mechanics, but that is essentially a trail or center call, especially in the half court setting. Was a bad call either way.
Navin Johnson
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I'm arguing that call even if he gets it right. His eyes shouldn't be on the ball there.
identikit
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Navin Johnson
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I played in college and have coached for over 25 years. That's a classic pull the chair from in front and pull the guy over. Derrick Fisher would be proud of him.
Embellishing contact happens often in the NBA and should be punished more often. That was not the case there.
identikit
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Navin Johnson
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Good thing the Heat held firm on not giving up any of those young shooters in any potential Harden deal.
Desert_Power
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Jayrod
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He didn't grab him and did nothing to aid Durant's momentum. Durant ends up on top of Smart 100% because of his own momentum and is the responsible party for the contact. Two guys with better resumes than either of us, Van Gundy and Mark Jackson, both watched the replay and said it was a great defensive play and definitely an offensive foul.
Capella
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Navin Johnson
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Durant is vertical until Smart's arms wrap around him. I can't see where he actually pulls him, but as someone who did this a lot, and was the victim a handful of times, it doesn't take much. When you get hit hard enough to get knocked on your ###, it is highly unlikely you will be holding your ground after contact, wrapping your arms around the opponent before going down. As an official you can't fall for that.
Not quite true. Miami didn't have the draft capital.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hothothoops.com/platform/amp/2021/5/28/22458397/miami-heat-james-harden-tyler-herro-trade-blame-draft-picks
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