2020-21 NBA Thread: LaMarcus Aldridge retires rather than forced to rebound dozens of missed Ben Simmons shots in East playoff series

[wikkidpissah 19,215]

1 hour ago, jvdesigns2002 said:

Bravo to Draymond Green for his comments in the post game interview.  I might not always agree with the dude--but I 100% respect his brutal honesty. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvJ1MX4m1CI

see, Draymond - that's why they give you the money.

you're getting $22million this season to advance the aims of the people who run the business you work for. the fans to which you supply that immense public service of running & jumping & shooting & and giving googly eyes to refs pick up that tab of a quarter mil every time you lace em up without any idea whether or not you'll be having load-mgmt or personal-reason issues on the one day a year they can afford to take the kids to see you play. play a game for $37.40 and not be allowed a pee break, then get back to me.

[Synthesizer 511]

Seems to me like the Cavs are doing the right thing for Drummond.  Same with Blake Griffin and the Pistons.  Since the teams do not want to start these guys any longer, it is better for the guys to just sit out the games rather than play bit roles off the bench.  By sitting out, at least these guys may still be perceived as starters in this league.

[jvdesigns2002 3,162]

1 minute ago, Synthesizer said:

Seems to me like the Cavs are doing the right thing for Drummond.  Same with Blake Griffin and the Pistons.  Since the teams do not want to start these guys any longer, it is better for the guys to just sit out the games rather than play bit roles off the bench.  By sitting out, at least these guys may still be perceived as starters in this league.

The Andre/Blake situations are not parallel. Blake has asked for a trade or for a buyout and the Pistons are trying to accommodate him.  Andre did not ask to be traded.  Cleveland announced to the world/league that Jarrett Allen is their starting center and that Andre would be benched until they found a trade partner.  Harden basically did the same thing as a player--did not show up to camp and did not play until he got traded and he got crucified.  The Cavs are basically forcing Andre to do the same thing that Harden did--but their reputations are not getting questioned at all--while Harden was treated as if he was an embrassment. 

[jvdesigns2002 3,162]

4 hours ago, wikkidpissah said:

see, Draymond - that's why they give you the money.

you're getting $22million this season to advance the aims of the people who run the business you work for. the fans to which you supply that immense public service of running & jumping & shooting & and giving googly eyes to refs pick up that tab of a quarter mil every time you lace em up without any idea whether or not you'll be having load-mgmt or personal-reason issues on the one day a year they can afford to take the kids to see you play. play a game for $37.40 and not be allowed a pee break, then get back to me.

For every dollar that Draymond and every other NBA player makes--there is an owner making a lot more.  Why don't you use the same justifications for investment bankers?  These players generate a lot more money than they earn and are the best in the world at what they do.   The same person paying Draymond is also paying Steph, klay, Wiggins and the rest of the team.  It's funny how you expect the people who are actually providing the entertainment to be the ones who sacrifice their salaries to make tickets more affordable. How come the notion that the owners actually dip into their exponentially deeper pockets Is not a consideration?

Edited February 16 by jvdesigns2002

[Joe Bryant 10,533]

Do not just  at a post. If you disagree, state why. If you just want to laugh at people, find another board. 

[wikkidpissah 19,215]

5 hours ago, jvdesigns2002 said:

For every dollar that Draymond and every other NBA player makes--there is an owner making a lot more.  Why don't you use the same justifications for investment bankers?  These players generate a lot more money than they earn and are the best in the world at what they do.   The same person paying Draymond is also paying Steph, klay, Wiggins and the rest of the team.  It's funny how you expect the people who are actually providing the entertainment to be the ones who sacrifice their salaries to make tickets more affordable. How come the notion that the owners actually dip into their exponentially deeper pockets Is not a consideration?

apple, meet orange.

my point was not at all about money except to clarify that his talent has been contracted for use however the contractor sees fit, unless otherwise stipulated. my point was that jumping up & down is not a public service - it is an entertainment that mostly common people pay to see, and that the average baller currently exhibits less respect for the ticket buyer than the contracting team does for the baller, so he should count his dough, lose some weight and practice his shot.

 

[EYLive 5,471]

I don't go out of my way to watch T-wolves games unless they're playing an L.A. team, but are their announcers always so impartial and polite? They don't complain about the refs, aren't especially biased toward Minnesota, they admit when they make a mistake. It's pretty refreshing compared to some other broadcast teams that cry like typical homers with microphones.

[flranger 780]

17 hours ago, Joe Bryant said:

Do not just  at a post. If you disagree, state why. If you just want to laugh at people, find another board. 

🤣

Jesus Christ, now the rolling emoji can't be used.  This board used to be required reading for me, I have been moving more and more to reddit and realGM.  It's a damn wokeathon in here.  Joe you have ruined what was one of the most enjoyable reads on the internet for me.  

FYI.......that is me stating why I disagree

[Dr. Octopus 17,048]

17 hours ago, Joe Bryant said:

Do not just  at a post. If you disagree, state why. If you just want to laugh at people, find another board. 

I think we can all agree that this rule shouldn't apply when addressing delusional/over-sensitive Sixer fans, right?

[EYLive 5,471]

2 hours ago, flranger said:

🤣

Jesus Christ, now the rolling emoji can't be used.  This board used to be required reading for me, I have been moving more and more to reddit and realGM.  It's a damn wokeathon in here.  Joe you have ruined what was one of the most enjoyable reads on the internet for me.  

FYI.......that is me stating why I disagree

Reddit is ultra toxic. Especially for sports.

[Desert_Power 1,063]

5 minutes ago, EYLive said:

Reddit is ultra toxic. Especially for sports.

I find the basketball stuff there, particularly r/nbadiscussions to be very good. A lot of memes otherwise though. Let's face it, there just isn't a lot of traffic on this board anymore.

[Chemical X 5,826]

knicks will wind up with a lottery pick and it won’t be their own, but someone else’s.  makes the porzingis trade a lot more interesting.

[Craig_MiamiFL 2,624]

Blazers playing surprisingly well w/o Nurkic and McCollum. 

Bob Covington and Jones Jr were terrific acquisitions. They needed guys that'd play ANY defense more than any team in the league this offseason.

Assuming full health, they're a much much more interesting playoff team this year IMO. Bob and Jones Jr can both play defense any position.

[modogg 4,956]

the end of this Hawks-C's game is just silly. for the last 3 minutes of the game, every time C's miss a shot the ref calls a foul. it is pretty much automatic, i thought Nate McMillan was going to literally throw the ref

[Jayrod 5,014]

1 hour ago, modogg said:

the end of this Hawks-C's game is just silly. for the last 3 minutes of the game, every time C's miss a shot the ref calls a foul. it is pretty much automatic, i thought Nate McMillan was going to literally throw the ref

Didn't matter.  They couldn't stop Trey Young at all.

The C's are what there record is, a .500 team in the East. 

Edited February 18 by Jayrod

[modogg 4,956]

10 minutes ago, Jayrod said:

Didn't matter.  They couldn't stop Trey Young at all.

The C's are what there record is, a .500 team in the East. 

yeah, i thought they would show up and bet them -3 tonight 

not sure what they need to fix, seem to have a few issues, and they just don't seem motivated

[HellToupee 15,766]

14 hours ago, flranger said:

🤣

Jesus Christ, now the rolling emoji can't be used.  This board used to be required reading for me, I have been moving more and more to reddit and realGM.  It's a damn wokeathon in here.  Joe you have ruined what was one of the most enjoyable reads on the internet for me.  

FYI.......that is me stating why I disagree

It’s all good , the 🤡 is the new

[Jayrod 5,014]

42 minutes ago, modogg said:

yeah, i thought they would show up and bet them -3 tonight 

not sure what they need to fix, seem to have a few issues, and they just don't seem motivated

It seems to be their defense most often, but tonight turnovers were a problem as well.  I only watched the second half, but every time they cut the lead down, Tatum or Brown would kick it out of bounds a couple of times and then Trey would hit a 3 and the lead was back to 8 or 9.

Edited February 18 by Jayrod

[Rodrigo Duterte 825]

What in god's name is Miami wearing?

[Nathan R. Jessep 5,814]

Tough loss for my Pels. Had 2 open looks at the end and bricked both   Man, Dame Lillard is good. Really good. We had no answer for him. I've seen highlights but this was the first whole game I've watched him play.  Also, Still not sure why we are entertaining trading Lonzo Ball. He's a really good passer and seems to lead our offense well. Brandon Ingram is good, but doesn't seem to have the same clutchness in tight situations, like last night. He completely missed the pick and roll to Zion in the final seconds. Like didn't even look at Zion, where SVG said the play was designed to go. 

[wikkidpissah 19,215]

11 hours ago, Jayrod said:

It seems to be their defense most often, but tonight turnovers were a problem as well.  I only watched the second half, but every time they cut the lead down, Tatum or Brown would kick it out of bounds a couple of times and then Trey would hit a 3 and the lead was back to 8 or 9.

 

46 minutes ago, Nathan R. Jessep said:

Tough loss for my Pels. Had 2 open looks at the end and bricked both   Man, Dame Lillard is good. Really good. We had no answer for him. I've seen highlights but this was the first whole game I've watched him play.  Also, Still not sure why we are entertaining trading Lonzo Ball. He's a really good passer and seems to lead our offense well. Brandon Ingram is good, but doesn't seem to have the same clutchness in tight situations, like last night. He completely missed the pick and roll to Zion in the final seconds. Like didn't even look at Zion, where SVG said the play was designed to go. 

i guess future stars gotta grow on their own on no-account teams, then be assembled onto SuperTeams once they've made Big Dog status (the D will be laughable, but no one's playing it anyways). STILL waiting for Simmons and Embiid to run a play together; Brad Stevens has taken to staggering the Jays' PT and letting them take turns being the Kawhi (i'm the most talented player on the floor so i should be the point no matter how few skillz i have for it) while Kemba figures himself out as a 2-guard and Maaaacus Smaaaat heals; and i watched 3 Pels game in the last coupla weeks and dint see Ingram & Zion look at each other. dont think i will outlive the "rep" phase of my favorite game...

Edited February 18 by wikkidpissah

[Frostillicus 14,427]

On 2/17/2021 at 3:07 AM, EYLive said:

I don't go out of my way to watch T-wolves games unless they're playing an L.A. team, but are their announcers always so impartial and polite? They don't complain about the refs, aren't especially biased toward Minnesota, they admit when they make a mistake. It's pretty refreshing compared to some other broadcast teams that cry like typical homers with microphones.

Actually yes. They have a reputation as among the best in the league. Which, as we all know, is more important than winning games so being a Wolves fan is pretty sweet. 

[Deamon 5,617]

On 2/17/2021 at 2:07 AM, EYLive said:

I don't go out of my way to watch T-wolves games unless they're playing an L.A. team, but are their announcers always so impartial and polite? They don't complain about the refs, aren't especially biased toward Minnesota, they admit when they make a mistake. It's pretty refreshing compared to some other broadcast teams that cry like typical homers with microphones.

Exact opposite of Raptors announcers.  Worst in sports.  You should try watching a Canadian broadcast of a Raps game....... it's pure cringe and unwatchable.

[Craig_MiamiFL 2,624]

22 hours ago, Nathan R. Jessep said:

Tough loss for my Pels. Had 2 open looks at the end and bricked both   Man, Dame Lillard is good. Really good. We had no answer for him. I've seen highlights but this was the first whole game I've watched him play.  Also, Still not sure why we are entertaining trading Lonzo Ball. He's a really good passer and seems to lead our offense well. Brandon Ingram is good, but doesn't seem to have the same clutchness in tight situations, like last night. He completely missed the pick and roll to Zion in the final seconds. Like didn't even look at Zion, where SVG said the play was designed to go. 

Ingram and Zion seem to be 2 individuals playing on the "same team".

JMO They're going to have to shell out for Lonzo. Can't imagine he'll get less than what Rubio got. Feeling the itch to pay Steven FN Adams $17-18m/yr on yet another deal but not paying Lonzo is a tough pill to swallow. Maybe he's a good locker room guy but he should at best be in the that $8-10mil/yr range. 

It's quite funny. I think Lonzo (a facilitator) is exactly what the Pellies need.

[Nathan R. Jessep 5,814]

2 minutes ago, Craig_MiamiFL said:

Ingram and Zion seem to be 2 individuals playing on the "same team".

JMO They're going to have to shell out for Lonzo. Can't imagine he'll get less than what Rubio got. Feeling the itch to pay Steven FN Adams $17-18m/yr on yet another deal but not paying Lonzo is a tough pill to swallow. Maybe he's a good locker room guy but he should at best be in the that $8-10mil/yr range. 

It's quite funny. I think Lonzo (a facilitator) is exactly what the Pellies need.

I agree. Took him a little bit to find his way, but I think he's falling right into place. I hope he stays.  And I know a lot were down on Adams when we got him, but I really like the way he plays for us, and he's a good compliment for Zion when they're in together. 

[Nathan R. Jessep 5,814]

And if you haven't watched a Pels game, you should. Zion is an absolute freak of nature. A TWENTY year old kid already dominating and is virtually unstoppable within 15 feet. And the scary thing is, he's only going to improve. 

[Brunell4MVP 884]

gotta tell ya, i've been around bball for 40 years.  Never heard of Anta until I saw Caruso signed with them. A quick search shows Klay, Hayward and others on their payroll ... I assume through the Fila brand.  3rd largest sportswear company.  Based in China.  I did know many of their subsidiaries (salomon, arcteryx, fila, atomic.)   Goes to show you can learn something new every day.

Edited February 19 by Brunell4MVP

[Craig_MiamiFL 2,624]

Yeesh. What a collapse by the Pellies at home in the 4th. Up 11 entering it. Outscored 41-12 during the quarter.

Don't know what it is with that team. They're loaded with talent but the only time IMO they look like a team is when Ball's facilitating the offense leading to easier buckets.

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Man, this would be wonderful for the Bulls....

They desperately desperately need a facilitator that can create easy shots for others. Coby can be a high volume scorer. I just think he's a 6th man ala Lou Williams. He's just not a PG   

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The Bulls are interested in trading for Lonzo Ball, Shams Charania reports.

They are one of a number of teams who will emerge as suitors for the PG. The Pelicans recently put Ball on the block, but he responded with some really strong play and it's unclear if their stance has changed. There has been no discussions between the Bulls and Pelicans yet, but this is a pretty clear sign that they don't have a lot of confidence in Coby White as their franchise point guard due to his struggles as a playmaker. 

 

[Leeroy Jenkins 3,066]

Embiid with 50 and 17. Plus 5 assists and 4 blocks.
 

Answering Barkley this season so far. 

Edited February 20 by Leeroy Jenkins

[Sammy3469 10,327]

I’m pretty sure Edwards took Watanabe’s soul.  Good lord.

[Deamon 5,617]

2 man race for MVP now unless Denver goes on a major run to be a top 3 team in the West.

[Nathan R. Jessep 5,814]

12 hours ago, Craig_MiamiFL said:

Yeesh. What a collapse by the Pellies at home in the 4th. Up 11 entering it. Outscored 41-12 during the quarter.

Don't know what it is with that team. They're loaded with talent but the only time IMO they look like a team is when Ball's facilitating the offense leading to easier buckets.

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Man, this would be wonderful for the Bulls....

They desperately desperately need a facilitator that can create easy shots for others. Coby can be a high volume scorer. I just think he's a 6th man ala Lou Williams. He's just not a PG   

 

Yes. Awful.  So frustrating to watch.  SVG took Zion OUT of the game and it immediately went downhill. 

[Juxtatarot 11,547]

On 2/18/2021 at 9:32 AM, Nathan R. Jessep said:

Tough loss for my Pels. Had 2 open looks at the end and bricked both   Man, Dame Lillard is good. Really good. We had no answer for him. I've seen highlights but this was the first whole game I've watched him play.  Also, Still not sure why we are entertaining trading Lonzo Ball. He's a really good passer and seems to lead our offense well. Brandon Ingram is good, but doesn't seem to have the same clutchness in tight situations, like last night. He completely missed the pick and roll to Zion in the final seconds. Like didn't even look at Zion, where SVG said the play was designed to go. 

Would the Pelicans pay Lonzo $20 million per year? $27 million?

Edited February 20 by Juxtatarot

[Nathan R. Jessep 5,814]

Just now, Juxtatarot said:

Would the Pelicans pay Lonzo $20 million per year?

Should they? Yes, IMO. Our team is better when he's in the game. Will they? I don't know. Sadly, probably not. 

[Juxtatarot 11,547]

2 minutes ago, Nathan R. Jessep said:

Should they? Yes, IMO. Our team is better when he's in the game. Will they? I don't know. Sadly, probably not. 

If the rumors about the Bulls interest is true (they would make sense but we don't know) I could see them offering Lonzo $20 to $27 in restricted free agency.  There really aren't a lot of good PGs available.  It would be an interesting match decision for the Pels. 

[mr. furley 12,421]

On 2/17/2021 at 11:32 PM, Rodrigo Duterte said:

What in god's name is Miami wearing?

the worst sports uniforms ever produced

[Rodrigo Duterte 825]

2 hours ago, mr. furley said:

the worst sports uniforms ever produced

I was going to say the same but told myself I'm getting old and they're maybe not the worst ever so just refrain.

I take it back.  I agree with you.

[Jayrod 5,014]

5 hours ago, mr. furley said:

the worst sports uniforms ever produced

 

2 hours ago, Rodrigo Duterte said:

I was going to say the same but told myself I'm getting old and they're maybe not the worst ever so just refrain.

I take it back.  I agree with you.

You guys are getting old, those unis are dope.

[Rodrigo Duterte 825]

1 hour ago, Jayrod said:

 

You guys are getting old, those unis are dope.

That seals it.  The worst.

[EYLive 5,471]

Those pink gradient ones? They fit the 90's Vice City theme but I'm not a huge fan. I don't really like the green/blue Maverick ones either. The orange Jazz unis are OK.

[Desert_Power 1,063]

Draymond is going to have some words about the refs after tonight's game. They've been terrible and he just got ejected with 9 seconds left.

Link: https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1363327653575417859

Edited February 21 by Desert_Power

[Ghost Rider 6,377]

14 minutes ago, Desert_Power said:

Draymond is going to have some words about the refs after tonight's game. They've been terrible and he just got ejected with 9 seconds left.

Link: https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1363327653575417859

He can go off another postgame rant that makes no sense.  It is what he does.  

[Craig_MiamiFL 2,624]

Draymond's more trouble than he's worth at this point.

And that contract's just begun.

Edited February 21 by Craig_MiamiFL

[EYLive 5,471]

3 hours ago, Ghost Rider said:

He can go off another postgame rant that makes no sense.  It is what he does.  

What did he say before?

[wikkidpissah 19,215]

6 hours ago, EYLive said:

What did he say before?

something about the inherent dignity of buyouts

[Jayrod 5,014]

11 hours ago, Desert_Power said:

Draymond is going to have some words about the refs after tonight's game. They've been terrible and he just got ejected with 9 seconds left.

Link: https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1363327653575417859

This is the reason I can't stand Draymond.  I like his hustle, non-stat effective on his team, but his complete disrespect of officials is off-putting.

They are people too, doing the absolute best they can at an incredibly difficult job.  All he ever does is try and manipulate them, flail and flop, but then get mad when he thinks they are wrong.  Most of the time he's the one who is wrong and just constantly tries to show them up.

[Deamon 5,617]

Lebron: 25.9P, 8.2R, 7.9A, 1.0S, 0.4B, 51FG%, 70FT%
Joel: 30.5P, 11.0R, 3.2A, 1.3S, 1.3B, 55FG%, 85FT%

Why is Lebron still such a heavy Vegas favourite to win MVP?

[SayWhat? 4,150]

More reviews in this Celts-Pels game would be ideal.

[trader jake 1,634]

3 minutes ago, SayWhat? said:

More reviews in this Celts-Pels game would be ideal.

Video reviews are out of control.  I'd prefer they get rid of it altogether.  Totally ruins the end of close games now.  ...and, let's go to the Elam ending while we're fixing the ends of basketball games.

[EYLive 5,471]

1 hour ago, Deamon said:

Lebron: 25.9P, 8.2R, 7.9A, 1.0S, 0.4B, 51FG%, 70FT%
Joel: 30.5P, 11.0R, 3.2A, 1.3S, 1.3B, 55FG%, 85FT%

Why is Lebron still such a heavy Vegas favourite to win MVP?

LBJ makes his teammates better. He could pad his stats even more if all we do is look at numbers like this. He's simply a better basketball player