wikkidpissah
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no 2-man game, no series wins of any significance for Philly, and there's still no 2-man game to speak of between their stars
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2020-21 NBA *Playoffs* Thread: Bucks are the champs and you can take that to the bank bromigos (6 Viewers)
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Deamon
Footballguy
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Jayrod
Footballguy
I've been saying Brown was the problem for years.
Doc is better, but he's not really a top tier, difference making coach. Of course there are only a handful of guys I'd put in that category. Talent means more in the NBA (see Vogel, Lue and even Doc's championship teams). But a good coach can make a difference. At least Rivers isn't a detriment like Brown was.
modogg
Footballguy
could be right about Doc, but the assistant coaches are top notch too. I admit to not knowing much about asst. coaches around the league, but between Dan Burke, Sam Cassell, and Dave Joeger they seem to be a top 5 group. 2 of those 3 are potential head coaches around the league, and i think they are helping the team a ton
ETA: can't forget my man Popeye Jones behind the scenes as well.
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wikkidpissah
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at least they know now that, tho they are there in the hopes and dreams of Philadelphians and, thus, so well rewarded because of their talents, they are actually there to win ballgames and advance the aims of the club. that's a big step from the Process years
Frostillicus
Footballguy
Homer alert, but Anthony Edwards has a chance to be something special. He has a long way to go, but it's there.
Jayrod
Footballguy
EYLive
Footballguy
Hopefully. But that slo-mo replay of his calf rippling underneath his sock when he pushed off that foot looks exactly like Durant's when he popped his.
modogg
Footballguy
I think i am starting to feel bad for AD after a bit:
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1355657299059036160
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1355657299059036160
Jayrod
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Ugh, Kemba missed a wide open mid range jumper for a win over LA and finishes 1/12 from the field with 4 points.
Tatum and Brown carried the team and nearly got one from the Champs. Those two have been stellar, but they really need a 3rd guy and Kemba just has not been there this year.
Tatum and Brown carried the team and nearly got one from the Champs. Those two have been stellar, but they really need a 3rd guy and Kemba just has not been there this year.
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Craig_MiamiFL
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Hornets beat the Bucks by 12. The most impressive part? Melo was a +37 
Melo is so fun to watch. To be 19 years old and to be able to make everyone around you better is something else. Already one of my favorite players to watch in the league.
Melo is so fun to watch. To be 19 years old and to be able to make everyone around you better is something else. Already one of my favorite players to watch in the league.
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modogg
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i watched a little bit of that Celtics game, is Tristan Thompson even the 3rd best Center on that team? I know his contract isn't that bad, but man they could have got 6-7 other guys and instead i think they got the worst of them. it is for 2 years right?
It was funny with the back and forth when he signed when some in here thought Thompson was the guy who would help the C's compete with Embiid and Bam. I think i feel bad for Theis the most with them sticking that guy out there every night to get bet up
It was funny with the back and forth when he signed when some in here thought Thompson was the guy who would help the C's compete with Embiid and Bam. I think i feel bad for Theis the most with them sticking that guy out there every night to get bet up
wikkidpissah
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phew! just calf - couplefew wks. i know the Jays are flowering in new & exciting ways, but i dont enjoy the Watching o' the Green without some Maaaacus Smaaaat anymoreMarcus Smart appears to have popped his Achilles.
this is a terrible development. i was excited for Kemba - coming back from the injury, they had him thinking "point-a-minute, less minutes" to get him off of last season's way-too-polite entre to Celtdom - he was cooking along nicely and, one big game, vroomp, right back to bubble chokitis. i fear a case of clutch yips -
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Desert_Power
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I need to figure out a better scheme to watch more of these. Anyone have experience using league pass and a VPN?Hornets beat the Bucks by 12. The most impressive part? Melo was a +37
Melo is so fun to watch. To be 19 years old and to be able to make everyone around you better is something else. Already one of my favorite players to watch in the league.
modogg
Footballguy
I haven't watched much of the Pelicans this season bur interesting they are looking for a trade:
Shams Charania @ShamsCharania
Sources: The Pelicans are focusing on northeast teams — 76ers, Nets, Celtics — as potential trade destination for 15-year veteran JJ Redick.
i would think the 6ers would love to bring JJ back. Sounds like they are shopping both him and Lonzo, and back court of Lonzo and Ben could be some fantastic passing and really have a great transition line-up for 10-12 minutes a game when you let Embiid rest and put in a small ball C.
No idea where they would fit on the Nets or what the Nets could give up that the Pelicans would want. Boston would be interesting and i can see them wanting to move Kemba, though that knee degen would be something i think most teams would be hestient to invest in
Shams Charania @ShamsCharania
Sources: The Pelicans are focusing on northeast teams — 76ers, Nets, Celtics — as potential trade destination for 15-year veteran JJ Redick.
i would think the 6ers would love to bring JJ back. Sounds like they are shopping both him and Lonzo, and back court of Lonzo and Ben could be some fantastic passing and really have a great transition line-up for 10-12 minutes a game when you let Embiid rest and put in a small ball C.
No idea where they would fit on the Nets or what the Nets could give up that the Pelicans would want. Boston would be interesting and i can see them wanting to move Kemba, though that knee degen would be something i think most teams would be hestient to invest in
mr. furley
Footballguy
my god
Major
Footballguy
It's amazing how quickly the Rockets have become a defensive juggernaut since Harden's departure.
Deamon
Footballguy
Man I would love JJ back.... one of my top 5 favourite players ever. I doubt it works with the Nets, and Boston would be devastating to see him there. Come back to Philly JJ!
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
The Process officially went into the ####ter the day Brutal Brett Brown decided that Redick and Belinelli greeting the ball up top on D was a good idea
modogg
Footballguy
well that was Ben's rookie year (technically 2nd, but he didn't play at all in the 1st outside of some pre-season). Lot of growing pains for Brown with significantly different rosters every year.
I do like the sound of this though, Ben at the 5 for around 10 minutes a game has a lot of possibilities:
“I loved it, but we just aren’t organized, honestly,” said Rivers. “Dave Joerger, we’re literally going bonkers on the things we saw that we couldn’t literally do with him at the 5 and it’s too bad. We just haven’t had practice time. We get two days and in the fourth quarter, Dave grabbed me and he says ‘I don’t care what are we do in these two days of practice, we’re going with Ben and the 5 for at least 10 minutes’.”
https://sixerswire.usatoday.com/2021/02/01/ben-simmons-doc-rivers-discuss-minutes-at-the-5-for-sixers-going-forward/
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Love these Hornets jerseys (need to get a Lamelo). Really could use an upgrade at Center. Just get bullied down low against teams like Miami.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
They've looked really good since that deal.Major said:
Obviously it's likely they part with Oladipo at some point IMO but if they don't I wouldn't at all be surprised if this was no fluke. Wood is one of the best bargains not on a rookie deal in the NBA. Jae'Sean Tate also looks like a real find for them. They've got themselves some real nice depth.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
And I still don't know how Wood only got 3/41 unless there's some unknown current locker room/off court issue with him.
Sure his D can leave some to be desired at times but he's a 6'10 kid that can do everything offensively and rebound at the 5. Frankly he's everything teams want upfront in today's NBA at that spot.
Watched him vs. the Pelicans the other night and he was the best big on the court. Nothing against Stephen Adams but amazed he got another $17-18mil/yr deal out of the Pellies. For a team that's been noted to have all these "good defensive players" the last year+ (including Holiday), the Pelicans sure ####### suck on defense.
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Desert_Power
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By far the best game of Malik Monk's career. Hit 9 threes including the one to put it into overtime.Desert_Power said:
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Malik Monk's bananers tonight. Hornets go into Miami and win.
Think Charlotte's gonna be a playoff team this year if stay healthy IMO. I'd actually be surprised if they weren't.
Melo is fun. Every team that had a shot of drafting or acquiring him should be kicking themselves. Guy's a special special franchise altering talent with high basketball IQ. Can't say enough good things of him as a distributor. Makes life easier for everyone around him.
Think Charlotte's gonna be a playoff team this year if stay healthy IMO. I'd actually be surprised if they weren't.
Melo is fun. Every team that had a shot of drafting or acquiring him should be kicking themselves. Guy's a special special franchise altering talent with high basketball IQ. Can't say enough good things of him as a distributor. Makes life easier for everyone around him.
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The Kansas Comet
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Solid 5-2 road trip for the Lakers. Thought they might get caught looking ahead to the plane ride home and get tripped up by a pesky Hawks team, but they did enough at the end of the game. These last two games illustrate just how key a role Caruso plays for this team, as loaded as they are. Obviously, he had that huge play at the end of the Celtics game and tonight when the Lakers let a 10 point lead drop to a 2 point lead in the blink of an eye, Vogel re-inserted Caruso into the game and they promptly closed out the last 2 minutes as he finished with a team-high +13 for the game. He had an assist, a key offensive rebound and strong defense to help put the game away. Obviously he's not an All-Star, but he fits so well with this team. I wonder how much he will get as a free agent this off-season, as I don't know how other teams will value him.
Deamon
Footballguy
I agree he's great, but "every team that had a shot will be kicking themselves".... so you mean the 2 teams? Wiseman and Edwards are also showing a ton of promise.
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
You already see what a difference maker he is. Big reason turning them from league laughingstock to potential playoff team in short order.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Not sure how the Lakers could let Caruso get away. To paraphrase an article from last year, he is the Lebron of playing with Lebron
Agree that all three have started out well and showed their upside a bit. The key with LaMelo is that his flaws (defense and shooting) haven't been nearly as bad as feared. The basketball IQ, as Craig mentioned, is just insane for a 19 year old. What kind of passes will he come up with after 10 years in the league?
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I really like the 10-man rotation they are using. And Doc is right that starting Howard was a mistake -- plug in Bradley and keep the second unit together. This team can play D, hit 3s, and dominate inside. They finally have a team that fits.modogg said:
Navin Johnson
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Navin Johnson
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Weak attempt to pump up his trade value.Deamon said:
Craig_MiamiFL
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wikkidpissah
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i wish Dallas had something Philly might want. Donc would never have to complain again -
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
Have definitely been disappointed in SVG's hyped defensive prowess. I will say though, Stephen Adams has improved us from where we were before.
Also, to the above JJ trade rumors, I can see us dealing them. I'm not sure why we'd trade Lonzo at this point. He has had a couple of bad games, but he has greatly improved since we got him. Unless they are thinking this is his ceiling and are just trying to sell high. I guess it might depend on what they get offered for him/them.
Major
Footballguy
If they're healthy, this Rockets squad could be a problem and slide in as a 7/8 seed. It's as if they're now cancer free and playing with a chip on their shoulder. Nice nucleus with Wall/Oladipo/Gordon/Tucker/Wood and a host of young, high energy reserves. I'd like to see them sign Oladipo for another two years to align with Wood's value contract. I'm just happy there is finally something positive developing in Houston sports. It's been a trying year.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
There is no defense anymore. My Exhibit A is how many DNP-CD players have had 30+pt multiway triumphs in single-game injury fill-ins. That would happen maybe twice a year leaguewide, now it's a 3x/wk thang
The Pellys' prob is that their acquisitions didnt fit their existing talent. Adams keeps Zion from being a P&R monster (tho his game could still be grown out by being made to play the backup Abominable Five as was used to turn Sabonis and Randle into functional stars) and Bledsoe's usage rate keeps Lonzo from doing his shtick
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Chemical X
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knicks hold the mavs unprotected 1 in 2021. top 10 protected in 2023. not saying this will help them, but it can’t hurt. they are in desperate need of a 3 wing. but being watchable is a step forward.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
And Philly obviously. Old man Zeller can't handle Embiid and Howard (or Simmons).
Jayrod
Footballguy
Celtics are so frustrating right now. they let another win escape last night and that's been several in the last few weeks.
They are playing like a marginally above average team. Flashes of greatness from Tatum and Brown but then sequences of poor defense and poor shot selection leading to big runs by their opponents.
It is incredibly frustrating to me to watch when the Celtics have gone three or four possessions in a row without a bucket while giving up open corner threes and then decide it's time to jack up another long 3 for yet another miss.
My trust in Stevens is starting to falter a bit. This team has no shot at a title as they are currently constructed. They have to make a move this year.
They are playing like a marginally above average team. Flashes of greatness from Tatum and Brown but then sequences of poor defense and poor shot selection leading to big runs by their opponents.
It is incredibly frustrating to me to watch when the Celtics have gone three or four possessions in a row without a bucket while giving up open corner threes and then decide it's time to jack up another long 3 for yet another miss.
My trust in Stevens is starting to falter a bit. This team has no shot at a title as they are currently constructed. They have to make a move this year.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Stevens is as good as always. The game has lost what little 'coach's medium' it had. The Celts still appear to have more of a team ethic than most, but there are no more "stops" and almost no more plays, as far as working for a particular shot or direct exploitation of opponent weaknesses. I had the chance to watch Pop work twice in the last week, and he's gone from auteur of his team's result to father of 5yo soccer players, hoping to keep his li'lguys running in the same direction as the ball. As in real life, a confirmation bias for every player and million$ of reasons not to listen when called in. a play still happens without the call, and we the ones making it rain, so who needs a coach?
Major
Footballguy
Is it me or does Kemba hold that team back? I think you trade him for some asset who can help now.
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