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Not concerned but also don't know how they could be expected to support Democrats right now.
Because a lot of them from my New Jersey hometown to deep blue Los Angeles support Trump.
Why not? Democrats are pro-union, and let's be honest......cops are heavily protected by their unions right now.
For one, police union leaders have been very vocal about their disappointment in the way Democrats are essentially throwing them under the bus during the BLM and Antifa protests and rioting. Union support isn't a given for Dems. I know this topic start was a fishing trip, but the very question certainly implies that Dems take union votes for granted. People can only be only be taken for granted for so long before they start to think critically about who they've been giving their allegiance to. I'd have to question what someone has been missing if they haven't either noticed eroding union support of Dems or haven't at least thought about its possibility.
Hey, at least we can turn a fishing expedition into a real discussion!
Yes it certainly is insane. There's very little evidence that any of these politicians give a crap about anybody but themselves and enriching their families.Hey, at least we can turn a fishing expedition into a real discussion!
My entire extended family is full of union members, across lots of industries. Frankly it's a subculture I'm fascinated by and don't completely understand. It baffles me why anybody would want to be controlled by a group of people (union leaders) who they won't ever meet and can't possibly hope to influence. Completely agree that Dems will continue to lose union support - but also think it's insane to think that either party actually cares about blue collar, union member voters.
Another myth, IMO. I'm guessing most guys shooting up the inner cities aren't your Trump voters
gun-nuts is a not very nice term, certainly intended at a minimum as a pejorative.
When I read gun-nut, I think of people that like to own and shoot guns. That could be anything from inner city gangs, hunters, NRA members, or just straight up hoodlums.
You know... gun nuts.
when did they really start to attract money and become a thing?Lehigh98 said:
I've known plenty and at least in my experience they have always been great people. Between NRA members, and hunters in general, they have probably done more to preserve nature than all the environmentalists I've known combined. And I used to live in Humboldt County so I have met plenty of those folks too.
my entire family hunts. probaby 80% of the adults in my hometown church (90-95% of the men) are hunters.
Support and tolerate are two different things. They shouldn’t tolerate him doing it and definitely shouldn’t support him (mainly because he’s incompetent and putting them in harms ways). But I do think a majority tolerate the rhetoric and that is concerning. Even more distributing are the ones who support it and are in the positions they are in.
How do those guys outdo environmentalists?
It has more to do with support than anything else.
sure and the other side can make false assertions like that too...Biden openly campaigns on rioting, lawlessness and socialism. It seems obvious and self-evident that it is bad if LEOs proportionately support that ideology... See how silly that sounds?
Sounds like the democrats like their unions the same way way they like their government.Hey, at least we can turn a fishing expedition into a real discussion!
My entire extended family is full of union members, across lots of industries. Frankly it's a subculture I'm fascinated by and don't completely understand. It baffles me why anybody would want to be controlled by a group of people (union leaders) who they won't ever meet and can't possibly hope to influence. Completely agree that Dems will continue to lose union support - but also think it's insane to think that either party actually cares about blue collar, union member voters.
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