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***Official 2020 Election General*** (3 Viewers)
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Ilov80s
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Mr Anonymous
Footballguy
If the national conversation (not this forum specifically) starts shifting to disputes over individual votes and their validity, I'm going to check myself out. My mind just can't engage in that gray area. I really, really hope they pick up the pace with these counts so the chances of gray area taking hold are minimized. Waiting to count mail in votes was a terrible idea. And I understand some states legally made it that way. That just makes taking a break, which was by choice, even worse of a decision.
Soulfly3
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Doug B
Footballguy
Made Biden look like a shoo-in. Believe it or don't -- that lowers turnout among Biden supporters. Not an active lowering ... just a couple hundred thousand voters nationwide getting "too busy to vote" or "eff it, Trump's winning NC anyway" and such. Subtle effects matter a lot.
squistion
Footballguy
PIers doesn't know what he is talking about. Mail-in ballots are being counted late because GOP legislatures prevented MI, WI, and PA from counting them early.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
There certainly were some misspent dollars by Dems. Polls did seem to indicate that Dems had legit shots at Graham and McConnell. Lots of money ended up being spent there by Dems and neither result ended up being close.
Still seems like an awfully weird strategy.
HellToupee
Footballguy
Trump campaign projecting confidence despite Dem advantage in mail-in ballots that are still being counted. Here’s what their predicting this AM:
- 5,500-vote margin of victory in NV
- 40,000-vote margin of victory in PA
- AZ “will come [our] way at day’s end”
- Recount in WI
https://twitter.com/gabbyorr_/status/1324005135589232641?s=21
- 5,500-vote margin of victory in NV
- 40,000-vote margin of victory in PA
- AZ “will come [our] way at day’s end”
- Recount in WI
https://twitter.com/gabbyorr_/status/1324005135589232641?s=21
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
PA will be really interesting. I think this one will be really close once all the early voting is in. A 560,000 point lead seems insurmountable, but Biden came back fairly strong in Michigan.
I find the dynamics to be strange between Dems and Republicans in their voting habits. R's vote so much more on the day of the election and D's vote early so much more. I could understand a slight variance, but the percentages are huge. Trump has a 10 point lead in PA with most of the same day votes counted. If Biden gets a 60/40 split on the remaining, he will claw back 620,000 votes. I'm not sure who I would consider the favorite for PA.
I find the dynamics to be strange between Dems and Republicans in their voting habits. R's vote so much more on the day of the election and D's vote early so much more. I could understand a slight variance, but the percentages are huge. Trump has a 10 point lead in PA with most of the same day votes counted. If Biden gets a 60/40 split on the remaining, he will claw back 620,000 votes. I'm not sure who I would consider the favorite for PA.
bostonfred
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General Malaise
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I really can't bring any insight into this other than I've tracked 3 different global sportsbooks throughout the night and into the morning and I'm witnessing a shift that's continuing to move the odds in Biden's favor. Might not mean anything but it's just one piece of data I have tried to contribute as we all wait.
Jayrod
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Trump would win with GA, NC, PA & NV. GA & NV seem the tightest at the moment.
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gianmarco
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Chair the energy committee and a nice chunk of pork for WV? Not saying it's likely but you'd have to be a fool to trust Manchin. In a hive of scum and villainy he's one of the worst.
Really? Twitter is not allowing her to post? Or her company removed her ability to post?
Doug B
Footballguy
OK ... ? Still want to see them hit someone with a steel-toed boot before I accuse them of doing it.
The Commish
Footballguy
This is the whole premise the GOP supporters came up with in this "shy voter" stuff...never made any sense to me...still doesn't.
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ericttspikes
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I could be wrong, but I thought that the FLA Secretary of State (and Bush’s FLA campaign chair) purging votes was the deciding factor? I don’t remember the Supreme Court reversing decisions, just allowing Harris to do what she did. I’m not following too closely, so maybe something like that is happening now, not sure.
ChiefD
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-fish-
Footballguy
Where would the votes come from? Same with Nevada..all that is left is absentee. Absentee has been going to Biden at about 70%
shader
Footballguy
I'm willing to accept that their projections in NV/PA are within the realm of possibility. I have no idea what they are seeing in AZ
NorvilleBarnes
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-fish-
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Twitter banned her for a racist tweet
@Joe Bryant
this was wrong feel free to delete. I believed what I read. Sorry
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Death Bytes
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Given states set their own rules for how to run elections, the wealth of the country is less important than the wealth of the state.... and given Trump's opposition to the latest stimulus bill was the Dems desire to help "poorly run states", he's getting what he deserves. The longer this decision is drawn out, the more painful his losing will be for him.
NutterButter
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gianmarco
Footballguy
Ilov80s
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BobbyLayne
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shader
Footballguy
AZ just had a big data dump in the last half hour. I assume Stepien didn't see that before his press conference.
The Commish
Footballguy
Yeah, I think it's safe to say that's not how hate and fear work in this country. It's the exact opposite. I get the concept of the claim. Problem is the actions completely contradict it. Doesn't make sense
Jayrod
Footballguy
It's really more of a sociology question as to why mail in voters trend to Biden.-fish- said:
I would venture that mail-in voters are more concerned with COVID which is a big reason for people voting Biden.
It's looking more and more like the virus has cost Trump this election.
Doug B
Footballguy
Agree a ton with this. Prove they're crooked party shills first -- then we can re-assess.
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
I'm not positive. They just said historically that D's vote early at a way higher rate.
Jayrod
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squistion
Footballguy
How come? Well...because Trump told his base that they were fraudulent and not to use them. Democrats still used them so they heavily favor Biden.
Summer Wheat
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NutterButter
Footballguy
That would make a lot more sense. They were stuck at 80 something for awhile and then it just shot up to 98% which seems like a done deal.
shader
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timschochet
Footballguy
The last two majority leaders were Mitch McConnell and Harry Reid. Compared to them, Chuck is Elvis Presley.
Mr Anonymous
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Even Scott Walker is saying the pursuit of a recount to overcome a 20K vote gap in WI isn't realistic.
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