Yeah absolutely. I don’t get too bent out of shape on politicians changing course from what they campaigned on. It’s so common. I knew that Progressive wing of the party was going to need to be fed.
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The Big Donkey
Footballguy
has he commented on why he was whispering? that was weird imo, why would he do that?
Max Power
Footballguy
I think he thought it was funny or cute, but couldnt read the room that it wasn't.
Self awareness champion.
timschochet
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Max Power
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
I really like Joe Biden, Max. This is aside from his politics. He seems like a good guy to me.
That’s a relief. I supported Hillary Clinton, thought she was treated very unfairly (still do) but I didn’t like her as a person. I wanted to like Donald Trump because he is part of my industry (commercial real estate) and because I admired some of what he did there. But he turned out to be a bad person IMO- not an evil guy like a Saddam Hussein, but a real jerk.
I wish there were more politicians that I liked. I know it’s not a crucial item compared to their overall effectiveness and pursuit of policies important to me- still I wish I liked more of them better. So many of them seem to be missing some undefinable piece of humanity. Biden isn’t, so far as I can see. Of course I could be completely wrong, but I hope I’m not.
Max Power
Footballguy
I appreciate the explanation and I just don't find Joe overly likeable. He has a well documented history in politics with some dark moments.
I see him as an old man being treated with kids gloves.
Summer Wheat
Footballguy
I actually like Biden too, but really had not seen that much of him even when he was VP. Biden does have some creepy moments and is getting forgetful. The creepiness seems like the 1970s-80s mad men type of behavior that was acceptable when he was a young man and it is just inbred into him. The other stuff I just relate to be man who is pushing 80s years old. It happens. Happening to my grandfather right now who is 74 and probably will happen to me one day. Or course I will not be POTUS at the time.
Anyway I don`t want anything to happen to him as Harris would be much worse.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Kamala isn't waiting 6 more months, much less 3.5 more years. If Biden doesn't get removed via the 25th soon, I suspect Joe is going to get a little push by Kamala next time they pass the closest set of stairs. I hope Biden's handlers are on full alert.
Sand
Footballguy
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Max Power
Footballguy
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Max Power
Footballguy
quick-hands
Footballguy
djmich
Footballguy
Blacks don't get vaccinated because they remember the Tuskegee Airmen
Latinx think they'll get deported.
Max Power
Footballguy
From a recent Joe Rogan podcast...
"Well, we’re unhinged, in a lot of ways,” Rogan agreed, because “we’re not anchored down by a real leader. You know, we don’t really have a real leader in this country anymore."
"You can say Joe Biden is the president, he’s our leader, and you’d be correct on paper but, I mean, everybody knows he’s out of his mind. He’s just barely hanging in there," he continued.
"Well, we’re unhinged, in a lot of ways,” Rogan agreed, because “we’re not anchored down by a real leader. You know, we don’t really have a real leader in this country anymore."
"You can say Joe Biden is the president, he’s our leader, and you’d be correct on paper but, I mean, everybody knows he’s out of his mind. He’s just barely hanging in there," he continued.
skol asylum
Footballguy
Max Power
Footballguy
It's only one of the most powerful and influential microphones in America.Well, if Joe Rogan says it.
His takes aren't always right or even good, but they are digested by the masses.
dkp993
Footballguy
Max Power
Footballguy
He is in touch with the pulse of the nation. I think he has a good feel for social issues, but he does have some uninformed moments.
Overall I like Joe and his show.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
GoBirds
Footballguy
Did you just have a Biden moment and not realize you are in the Biden thread?
DeSantis would be a significant improvement, this will be over soon enough and that time will come.
skol asylum
Footballguy
Stealthycat
Footballguy
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/gas-prices-above-3-per-gallon-to-remain-elevated-all-summer
Joe Biden administration - what are they doing about high gas prices ? these increases punch households in the face by a lot of $$$$a year more money being spent depending on home usage
that hurts
Joe Biden administration - what are they doing about high gas prices ? these increases punch households in the face by a lot of $$$$a year more money being spent depending on home usage
that hurts
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MAC_32
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There are several reasons fuel prices are up, but the one in our control is due to the free market. Criticisms of government because of it strike me as somewhere between uninformed, misdirected, and partisan 
shocked face
. Suppliers have the ability to produce more and that's been the case for months, but it has been more profitable for them not to and with demand surging as we emerge from the pandemic this outcome struck me as rather obvious. Now, should govt intervene? There are exceptions, but I am generally against govt intervention in private industry. In this instance I'd need a compelling reason to alter that stance and I would think the average informed person rooted in conservative philosophy would believe the same. Yet generally speaking - they don't right now. Wonder why...
shocked face. Suppliers have the ability to produce more and that's been the case for months, but it has been more profitable for them not to and with demand surging as we emerge from the pandemic this outcome struck me as rather obvious. Now, should govt intervene? There are exceptions, but I am generally against govt intervention in private industry. In this instance I'd need a compelling reason to alter that stance and I would think the average informed person rooted in conservative philosophy would believe the same. Yet generally speaking - they don't right now. Wonder why...
Stealthycat
Footballguy
what happens in a Presidency is almost ALWAYS going to be the credit or blame to the PresidentThere are several reasons fuel prices are up, but the one in our control is due to the free market. Criticisms of government because of it strike me as somewhere between uninformed, misdirected, and partisan
in this case, yes ... gas prices are to be blamed on Biden and those who voted him in office
MAC_32
Footballguy
This mindset by the average person aptly describes our current uninformed partisan political environment. I don't choose conformity.
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
If we lower gas prices too much that will help people’s budgets and then Applebee’s might not get enough wait staff. We should keep them high so poor people need to work at least three jobs to afford gas. That helps the economy.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
While I agree with you in theory, @Stealthycat is absolutely correct. You are in a very small minority who won't blame the current President. And yes, you are correct that it is a result of our partisan political environment. Has been this way since, forever.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Shocker, some are opening their eyes to what they voted for.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2021/07/01/bidens-approval-rating-dip-driven-by-erosion-in-support-from-voters-in-his-own-party-survey-shows/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2021/07/01/bidens-approval-rating-dip-driven-by-erosion-in-support-from-voters-in-his-own-party-survey-shows/amp/
squistion
Footballguy
Still 55% and Trump never reached those numbers once in 4 years (with the possible exception of Rasmussen).
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
GoBirds
Footballguy
jm192
Footballguy
Only argument that matters in the PSF.
Anything negative about a Democrat: "But Trump..."
Trump was so deplorable, and yet, he's now the standard by which everything needs to be compared.
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Dickies
Footballguy
I can only speak for myself, but I compare to Trump because I'm not a huge fan of Biden. Of all the candidates in the Dem primary, I think Biden would have been my last choice. I'm not excited or passionate about anything he does, but at least I'm not repulsed by him. The best thing he's done is Make Politics Boring Again!jm192 said:
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
Biden’s approval in Fox News polls over the last 3 months:
54%
54%
56%
54%
54%
56%
BladeRunner
Footballguy
@timschochet has already decreed him the Greatest President EverTM. Like, way back on January 21st already.
squistion
Footballguy
The overall approval numbers take into account and reflect how they are handling the border crisis.
Stop deflecting from my question, there is an actual number for it. Do you know what it is?
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timschochet
Footballguy
I doubt it.
People care about the border for sure and the majority of them, sadly, agree with you on it a whole lot more than they agree with me. But it’s not close to the most pressing issues that decide elections. It’s way down the list.
timschochet
Footballguy
PennStater77
Footballguy
The 25th should have been implemented on January 23rd.. This is why I find it so hard to believe he got 81million votes.
Philo Beddoe
Footballguy
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