Shatner! 541 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) Looks like Ossoff's lead is growing. Now 9,500 ahead! Edited January 6 by Shatner! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drunken Cowboy 1,517 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 It was clearly headed this way, but I think it is safe to call both races. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swaymoney 66 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Drunken Cowboy said: Neither is going to a recount. Ossoff will win by over 1%, double the recount margin. I hope, so excited over the huge slap to the face of Trump. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHIZNITTTT 3,347 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Who will be the new Senate leader? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Encyclopedia Brown 2,691 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 3 minutes ago, SHIZNITTTT said: Who will be the new Senate leader? Schumer. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gachi 890 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 I bet the Georgia state legislature is gonna make some election law changes. Just like Alabama did when Doug Jones won. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shatner! 541 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Now up 12,806. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shatner! 541 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 16,370 Can he get above the recount threshold? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Otis 13,624 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 2 hours ago, Encyclopedia Brown said: Schumer. Can we all just take a moment to acknowledge that FINALLY there will be some sense in the world now with New York at the helm? 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cowboysfan8 7,893 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 3 hours ago, Encyclopedia Brown said: Schumer. Oh boy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThreeThousand 431 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 6 hours ago, fruity pebbles said: Who are the voters who voted for Warnock and Perdue? Me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tommyGunZ 4,731 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 2 hours ago, Otis said: Can we all just take a moment to acknowledge that FINALLY there will be some sense in the world now with New York at the helm? NYC has been in the White House the last 4 years. 6 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BroncoFreak_2K3 2,616 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 2 hours ago, Otis said: Can we all just take a moment to acknowledge that FINALLY there will be some sense in the world now with New York at the helm? Hilarious Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IvanKaramazov 22,547 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 12 minutes ago, tommyGunZ said: NYC has been in the White House the last 4 years. Hello, 911? I'd like to report a murder. 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sinn Fein 34,146 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 10 hours ago, Sinn Fein said: Thats a shame, if true. Win with grace, lose with dignity. I feel like this is worth bumping. It applies to all of us, not just the candidates. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Commish 13,925 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 6 hours ago, Shatner! said: Meanwhile...in Trumpland... @realDonaldTrump: If Vice President @Mike_Pence comes through for us, we will win the Presidency. Many States want to decertify the mistake they made in certifying incorrect & even fraudulent numbers in a process NOT approved by their State Legislatures (which it must be). Mike can send it back! @jaketapper: He won’t and You won’t and They don’t and They didn’t and It wasn’t and He can’t Otherwise, good tweet 👍🏻 As a law and order type I said at the beginning I'd really like to see Trump stay in office but the house/senate flip. We'd finally get a proper impeachment and removal from office. The last stunt in Georgia would make this the lay up of lay ups. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Redwes25 2,077 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Well I am shocked. I was certain that the republicans would win with a portion of Georgia voters deciding to go with split govt. Of course I didn’t expect a deranged man to go and try and convince his base that elections are rigged. In my mind, these Democratic victories are all on Trump. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tommyGunZ 4,731 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 10 minutes ago, The Commish said: As a law and order type I said at the beginning I'd really like to see Trump stay in office but the house/senate flip. We'd finally get a proper impeachment and removal from office. The last stunt in Georgia would make this the lay up of lay ups. The Southern District of NY is your huckleberry. 🍿 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Commish 13,925 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 On 11/8/2020 at 11:28 AM, The Commish said: History shows us that anger motivates more than jubilation. I don't think this will be particularly close. If it is, major props for the voodoo Abrams possesses to turn out the vote against odds. If I am the Dem party, I am absolutely hammering home the fact that this isn't over, that Biden was the first step but not enough and that they need the Senate to stop the "party of no" dead in their tracks. That would be my message if I was pushing the buttons and pulling the levers of the party. Well, seems like I'm going to be wrong on this one. I am kind of surprised at what I'm watching. Just two years ago during the 2018 elections I remember talking about how impossible it seemed that the Dems would be able to make a dent in the GOP run Senate much less retake it. Thanks Trump!!!!!!!! Problem of course now is Schumer. He can't seem to get out of his own way. At least legislation can start flowing again even if I don't agree with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Commish 13,925 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 2 minutes ago, tommyGunZ said: The Southern District of NY is your huckleberry. 🍿 I guess....I don't think that does as much for our Democracy as having it remove him from office once and for all though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NutterButter 6,208 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 What an incredible day. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swaymoney 66 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 10 minutes ago, Redwes25 said: Well I am shocked. I was certain that the republicans would win with a portion of Georgia voters deciding to go with split govt. Of course I didn’t expect a deranged man to go and try and convince his base that elections are rigged. In my mind, these Democratic victories are all on Trump. See and I'm not shocked at all, after all the work that was done to flip Georgia to Biden and seeing Trump act like a 5 year old after losing, Warnock was ahead in the regular election, I felt Ossoff was going to pull it off, especially with how Perdue responded when he got owned in the debates and then no showed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Dude 1,014 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Trump cost the gop Georgia effectively told gop voters their vote didn’t matter cause the election was fixed national embarrassment being caught on tape trying to fix the GA vote results told people they deserved $2000 stimulus and couldn’t deliver and then the gop vote didn’t turn out 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FBG Moderator 761 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 One time reminder to be cool to each other. Drop the condescending snark. Drop the victory laps. Zero patience today and we'll likely lose a lot of posters for a while today if people can't be cool to each other. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
need2know 6,403 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 scary times 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sinn Fein 34,146 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 11 minutes ago, The Dude said: Trump cost the gop Georgia effectively told gop voters their vote didn’t matter cause the election was fixed national embarrassment being caught on tape trying to fix the GA vote results told people they deserved $2000 stimulus and couldn’t deliver and then the gop vote didn’t turn out Probably just me - but I actually don't buy this narrative. I think turnout for this run-off was historically high - particularly for a stand-alone run-off election. I don't think "recent" Trump played a big part in voters decisions here - on either side. I do think the cumulative Trump era played an oversized role. I also think people are ignoring how poor Loeffler and Perdue were as candidates. They were not Roy Moore level bad, but they were not much better. Yes, things devolved rather rapidly over the last few weeks - but there were lots of factors the led up to this. And, in the end, these results largely mirrored the November presidential election breakdown - suggesting people's party allegiances really did not change in the last couple of months. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Tasker 8,221 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Kudos to Georgia voters - I didn't think they'd elect one of the D candidates, let alone potentially two. Stacy Abrams the god. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amused to Death 7,255 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Congratulations Georgia voters and thank you! Stacey Abrams deserves a ton of credit to flip a reliably red state almost completely blue this election cycle. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug B 7,099 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 6 hours ago, Shatner! said: Looks like Ossoff's lead is growing. Now 9,500 ahead! A cool 16,370 ahead at the moment. Wish I could have stayed awake another two hours to watch this unfold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timschochet 34,983 Posted January 6 Author Share Posted January 6 We will get an infrastructure bill done. A bigger stimulus package. MAYBE some improvements to Obamacare, MAYBE some moderate immigration reform, MAYBE some reasonable gun restrictions, MAYBE a partial reverse of Trump’s tax cuts. But nothing radical, nothing socialist, nothing extreme. Not gonna happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tri-man 47 9,090 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Maybe some added stability to Social Security (resumption of tax on higher income levels), too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigJim® 1,089 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 4 minutes ago, timschochet said: We will get an infrastructure bill done. A bigger stimulus package. MAYBE some improvements to Obamacare, MAYBE some moderate immigration reform, MAYBE some reasonable gun restrictions, MAYBE a partial reverse of Trump’s tax cuts. But nothing radical, nothing socialist, nothing extreme. Not gonna happen. I was wondering about Voters Rights Act. It may be considered extreme and in some ways may be partisan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timschochet 34,983 Posted January 6 Author Share Posted January 6 2 minutes ago, BigJim® said: I was wondering about Voters Rights Act. It may be considered extreme and in some ways may be partisan. Stuff like this will largely be up to Manchin and a few others. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fruity pebbles 3,293 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 14 minutes ago, timschochet said: We will get an infrastructure bill done. A bigger stimulus package. MAYBE some improvements to Obamacare, MAYBE some moderate immigration reform, MAYBE some reasonable gun restrictions, MAYBE a partial reverse of Trump’s tax cuts. But nothing radical, nothing socialist, nothing extreme. Not gonna happen. Sounds perfect Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IvanKaramazov 22,547 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 16 minutes ago, timschochet said: We will get an infrastructure bill done. A bigger stimulus package. MAYBE some improvements to Obamacare, MAYBE some moderate immigration reform, MAYBE some reasonable gun restrictions, MAYBE a partial reverse of Trump’s tax cuts. But nothing radical, nothing socialist, nothing extreme. Not gonna happen. Right now, I would just like to see some leadership on vaccine distribution. All the other stuff can wait. 8 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timschochet 34,983 Posted January 6 Author Share Posted January 6 Just now, IvanKaramazov said: Right now, I would just like to see some leadership on vaccine distribution. All the other stuff can wait. That was going to happen regardless of the Georgia election. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Commish 13,925 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 17 minutes ago, timschochet said: We will get an infrastructure bill done. A bigger stimulus package. MAYBE some improvements to Obamacare, MAYBE some moderate immigration reform, MAYBE some reasonable gun restrictions, MAYBE a partial reverse of Trump’s tax cuts. But nothing radical, nothing socialist, nothing extreme. Not gonna happen. Screw all this until we get this stupid virus under control. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BroncoFreak_2K3 2,616 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Glad Biden’s coming in with all the answers to these problems!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AAABatteries 25,233 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Steve Tasker said: Kudos to Georgia voters - I didn't think they'd elect one of the D candidates, let alone potentially two. Stacy Abrams the god. 33 minutes ago, Amused to Death said: Congratulations Georgia voters and thank you! Stacey Abrams deserves a ton of credit to flip a reliably red state almost completely blue this election cycle. Proud to be a Georgian this morning - and not just because the people I voted for won. The voters really came out to make their voices heard for all the candidates - 4.5M+ votes for a run-off is an insane number. Hopefully everyone continues to vote and we continue to make it easier for everyone to vote. Edited January 6 by AAABatteries 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timschochet 34,983 Posted January 6 Author Share Posted January 6 4 minutes ago, The Commish said: Screw all this until we get this stupid virus under control. Of course. But that was going to happen as a result of Biden winning. I was addressing the impact of last night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AAABatteries 25,233 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, need2know said: scary times It's ok GB - only 14 more days and it'll be over! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fruity pebbles 3,293 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Like to see the majority leader’s power curbed. No way one person should be able to decide what comes up for a vote. Unfortunately, that would take the group in charge to curb their own power. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug B 7,099 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Counting and reporting have resumed -- Ossoff now up 17,025 votes. Meanwhile, Warnock is still calling play action and going 30 yards downfield late in the fourth up three scores (well, a 2% lead). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug B 7,099 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 4 minutes ago, fruity pebbles said: Like to see the majority leader’s power curbed. No way one person should be able to decide what comes up for a vote. Unfortunately, that would take the group in charge to curb their own power. Crazy to think that this was always possible in the U.S. Senate, but apparently (?) no one ever did it for over 200 years. Someone HAD to have done it at least a few times in the past, right? Even just a one-off situation? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sho nuff 17,178 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 28 minutes ago, timschochet said: We will get an infrastructure bill done. A bigger stimulus package. MAYBE some improvements to Obamacare, MAYBE some moderate immigration reform, MAYBE some reasonable gun restrictions, MAYBE a partial reverse of Trump’s tax cuts. But nothing radical, nothing socialist, nothing extreme. Not gonna happen. I think there will be changes to ACA for sure...I don't think it is a maybe. Guns...I think those will be more on the backburner. Tax Cuts...agree there, a reversal of some of the more permanent measures that were aimed at upper percentage and business. Let the other parts expire naturally? Hope they keep the changes made to standard deduction and so on (has made filing my own taxes easier pricing me out of itemizing). Infrastructure for sure...and we will see how kicking and screaming it will be to get this...but election security measures that the Feds can take vs what the States must do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sinn Fein 34,146 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Quote Peter Daou @peterdaou · 12h No more blaming Trump and McConnell. NOW we'll see if Dems actually give a damn about the people, not their billionaire donors. This will be a tricky time for the Dems to navigate conflicting interests. The pressure will be on Pelosi and Schumer to deliver - lots of pressure, from lots of different angles... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sho nuff 17,178 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 4 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said: This will be a tricky time for the Dems to navigate conflicting interests. The pressure will be on Pelosi and Schumer to deliver - lots of pressure, from lots of different angles... I wonder if Peter thinks Trump and this GOP cared about the people and not their billionaire donors? Because policy wise and what McConnell would allow...I would question how that would be. But yes...I agree the pressure will be on...its why I agree with Tim about infrastructure being up there in what will be early on...because it seems to be what Rs and Ds in Washington will agree upon. But will that be painted as pork and pet projects for certain states? I believe there will be pressure to shore up ACA (and Biden has said that is a priority of his...and given his choice for OMB director...I would think that is going to happen). The people seem to want that as well...single payer even pushing more and more popular in polling https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/09/29/increasing-share-of-americans-favor-a-single-government-program-to-provide-health-care-coverage/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Osaurus 9,189 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Steve Tasker said: Kudos to Georgia voters - I didn't think they'd elect one of the D candidates, let alone potentially two. Stacy Abrams the god. She has truly done a remarkable job in Georgia for the Dems. She could have disappeared into the nebulous ether after she lost her bid for Governor, but it motivated her even more and if the Dems are smart, they will make her a fixture in the DNC (if she wants it). 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Lambskin 13,615 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 28 minutes ago, sho nuff said: I think there will be changes to ACA for sure...I don't think it is a maybe. Guns...I think those will be more on the backburner. Tax Cuts...agree there, a reversal of some of the more permanent measures that were aimed at upper percentage and business. Let the other parts expire naturally? Hope they keep the changes made to standard deduction and so on (has made filing my own taxes easier pricing me out of itemizing). Infrastructure for sure...and we will see how kicking and screaming it will be to get this...but election security measures that the Feds can take vs what the States must do. I look forward to what this horribly mismanaged infrastructure bill will be like disclaimer: not horrible because of either party, just because the federal government will be involved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sho nuff 17,178 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 1 minute ago, Dan Lambskin said: I look forward to what this horribly mismanaged infrastructure bill will be like disclaimer: not horrible because of either party, just because the federal government will be involved. Depending on the project...seems to be a very smart man involved if its going through Transportation. May be misguided, but I trust a bit in Pete doing a good job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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