The surprise is overwhelming.
Something we have learned since 2016 and even more so in 2020 is this country is populated with a lot less reasonable people than we could have imagined. And it extends far beyond believing in the Dominion voting machine conspiracy theory.GroveDiesel said:In case any of you ever believed Sidney Powell, she has now stated in her filing in the Dominion lawsuit that no reasonable person would believe that her statements were statements of fact.
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It's a bold move, Sidney. Alerting the state Bar that you weren't actually pleading facts that you believed to be true in your filings is not usually recommended for those who want to keep their licenses.GroveDiesel said:In case any of you ever believed Sidney Powell, she has now stated in her filing in the Dominion lawsuit that no reasonable person would believe that her statements were statements of fact.
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There were quite a number of people that were actually excited about the Dominion suit because they believed that during discovery was when Sidney was going to finally “release the Kraken” and show all her evidence. Instead, the kraken is backtrackin.my uncle will be devastated
It's amazing that this is a new thing for defense once you are held accountable. I'm sure the list is longer but you now have alex jones, sydney powell, tucker carlson etc....There were quite a number of people that were actually excited about the Dominion suit because they believed that during discovery was when Sidney was going to finally “release the Kraken” and show all her evidence. Instead, the kraken is backtrackin.
I want her and every other knowingly lying conspiracy spreading piece of garbage that has caused so much trouble in this country behind bars.It's amazing that this is a new thing for defense once you are held accountable. I'm sure the list is longer but you now have alex jones, sydney powell, tucker carlson etc....
what a world we live in. People argue all day with these people and they stand there and lie their faces off until they get in court and they say 'i was just joking clearly'
I hope she loses bigly
Who was the guy that repeatedly stated she was going to unleash the goods 'in two weeks'. Stormtrooper? Bootstrooper? Something something Boots? I felt bad for the guy. I hope it was schtick.Amazing how quiet this thread got considering how many people supported this whole scam during the election aftermath
Tell you what, they sure don't vote with their pocket books. Ran a screen on some of the guns & ammo stocks and they are all down bigly today. Buy the guns and ammo, don't buy the stocks! Seems prudent.No time for this....apparently the federal government is out for our guns again....ALL HANDS ON DECK!!!!!!!
I'm sure you could look back in this thread to see the excitement when Sidney was 'on the case'.There were quite a number of people that were actually excited about the Dominion suit because they believed that during discovery was when Sidney was going to finally “release the Kraken” and show all her evidence. Instead, the kraken is backtrackin.
It's also kind of a weird legal argument in its own right.It's a bold move, Sidney. Alerting the state Bar that you weren't actually pleading facts that you believed to be true in your filings is not usually recommended for those who want to keep their licenses.
Going for the "parody" defense? "I thought I was on SNL and everyone would know it was a joke".It's also kind of a weird legal argument in its own right.
Truth is an absolute defense in a defamation action.
Extreme falsity isn't traditionally accorded the same status as truth. "My lies were too crazy to be defamatory" is an unusual position to stake out even when the lies weren't reiterated in court filings.
I don't recall how much, if any, of this garbage made it into other court filings when Team Fraud was trying to block legal votes around the country, but if they introduced anything about Dominion there it seems like it would undercut this current claim, no? Isn't it hard to say no one could have taken me seriously when you made these claims in a court of law?It's also kind of a weird legal argument in its own right.
Truth is an absolute defense in a defamation action.
Extreme falsity isn't traditionally accorded the same status as truth. "My lies were too crazy to be defamatory" is an unusual position to stake out even when the lies weren't reiterated in court filings.
To whom? The people who back these tactics aren't going to stop believing in him. It's not in their nature.The Kracken coming clean really makes Trump and Co. look worse.
It’s actually the defense that Tucker Carlson used in a defamation case and won with. He argued that he is not a news show and that it’s obvious that he does not tell the truth. Rather he is an entertainment show and that it should be obvious that the things he says are false.It's also kind of a weird legal argument in its own right.
Truth is an absolute defense in a defamation action.
Extreme falsity isn't traditionally accorded the same status as truth. "My lies were too crazy to be defamatory" is an unusual position to stake out even when the lies weren't reiterated in court filings.
This is from the Wisconsin lawsuit. It certainly appears that Dominion machines were introduced into court in a way that almost has to be problematic for a "no one could possibly have taken this steaming pile of bull#### seriously" argument in the defamation suit.Most glaringly, Dominion voting machines—the subject of endless pages of allegations and affidavits in Plaintiff’s submission—are not used in the relevant counties. The Complaint alleges “egregious” conduct involving these machines in eight Wisconsin counties (Amend. Cmplt. ¶3), but materials, sourced from the WEC website and included in Plaintiff’s own exhibits, show that Dominion machines are used in only two of those counties. And those two counties, Ozaukee and Washington, are both places where President Trump won. Plaintiff’s other theories similarly wilt under the slightest scrutiny and cannot show a reasonable likelihood of success.
It took a guy on fantasy football webpage a short period of time to dig this up. Imagine lawyers for Dominion are licking their chops to respond to their filing.Start on page 7 here.
Respectfully submitted, this 25th day of November, 2020. CALDWELL, PROPST & DELOACH, LLP /s/ Harry W. MacDougald Harry W. MacDougald Georgia Bar No. 463076 CALDWELL, PROPST & DELOACH, LLP Two Ravinia Drive, Suite 1600 Atlanta, GA 30346 (404) 843-1956 – Telephone (404) 843-2737 – Facsimile hmacdougald@cpdlawyers.com Counsel for Plaintiffs /s Sidney Powell* Sidney Powell PC Texas Bar No. 16209700 Julia Z. Haller * Emily P. Newman* Virginia Bar License No. 84265 2911 Turtle Creek Blvd, Suite 300 Dallas, Texas 75219
Reading my mind. Old Steve Martin bit about robbing a bank and if you get caught explain you were merely joking around.Going for the "parody" defense? "I thought I was on SNL and everyone would know it was a joke".
You can get shot for that sorta thing...Dinsy Ejotuz said:It's not like they stole $200 from a liquor store or something really serious.
Not really, IMO. If you're speaking for the POTUS in an official capacity as his legal counsel, you better not be knowingly defaming someone or some entity. People have the expectation that the president's lawyer is not involved in parody.the moops said:Yea, it's one thing to spout this nonsense on TV or on Twitter. It is quite another to submit this stuff in writing to a court
As I said above, forfeiting your license to avoid civil liability is a bold strategy. Some others certainly think so:SWC said:can i ask the lawyer guys a question if sidney powells defense to this action is is well my filings were so crazy that no one should have believed them shouldnt every state bar she filed them in be saying ok fine you are disbarred for filing knowingly false hot garbage how does that all work take that to the bank bromigos
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/24/politics/sidney-powell-bar-dominion/index.htmlThe initial court filing statement stunned David Fink, a lawyer who is asking a federal judge in Michigan on behalf of the city of Detroit to sanction Powell and others for not telling the truth.
Fink wants to "deter future misconduct" and bar Powell from practicing law. He pointed to a federal rule that allows courts to impose sanctions on attorneys who make representations to the court that lack evidentiary support.
"When I read the brief in that case I was shocked that Sidney Powell's lawyers would admit that no reasonable person would believe the very allegations that she asserted in federal court," Fink said.
"Those misrepresentations are the reason we are asking the federal court to sanction her," Fink added. "Powell shows a startling contempt for the basic ethical obligations of our profession, a lawyer incapable of speaking the truth in court filings should surrender her bar card."
Fink is not sure if he needs to or will bring the defamation filing to the attention of Michigan's judge who serves on the US District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan. Already he had argued that if sanctions against Powell are not deserved in his case "it is hard to imagine a case where they would be."
They have their money, who needs a license anymore?As I said above, forfeiting your license to avoid civil liability is a bold strategy. Some others certainly think so:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/24/politics/sidney-powell-bar-dominion/index.html
Yeah they got nothing left. They tried sedition but weren't truly committed and backed down, now saying it was a joke. They tried claiming Biden was a pedo...didn't stick. They tried rigging the election through the post office, didn't work. Now they are basically down to racism as a final tactic. It will probably stave of their eventual demise, but it is just going to make it uglier. The Republicans simply don't have the numbers. They are trying t legislate wins. Eventually these tactics will fail as well.Georgia doing a number on democracy in plain site on the basis of the big lie. Legislating voter disenfranchisement and voter suppression. Bananas.
They are just trying to suppress the vote, that's it. None of it makes sense. You can't vote on sunday now? Give me a breakIt is now a misdemeanor in GA to pass out water or food to people waiting in line to vote. Can someone please try and explain this to me?
Probably....rinse and repeatSo is Fox going to claim that no reasonable viewers could possibly believe them?
I'm excited to see the thousands of people that are going to volunteer to hand out food and water and force the governor's hand in directing law enforcement to issue citations to all those peopleThey are just trying to suppress the vote, that's it. None of it makes sense. You can't vote on sunday now? Give me a break
Republicans lost the Presidency and Senate. But rather than try to win elections by being less awful, they've decided on suppressing the vote instead.It is now a misdemeanor in GA to pass out water or food to people waiting in line to vote. Can someone please try and explain this to me?