This is such a weird post - were you expecting Covid vaccines to be perfect? The main problem isn’t the vaccines, the main problem is the people that won’t get one. Were we better off 6 months ago when this was raging, deaths were high and most things were shut down?Get vaccinated!
However, you still need to wear a mask, you still need to get tested, you still need to quarantine if positive, you still may get covid, and you still can spread covid.
GREAT JOB AMERICA!
I was expecting as someone who got vaccinated my life returning to normalcy 4 months after getting the vaccine. Instead we are now back to masks, testing protocols, etc as if I never got the vaccine.This is such a weird post - were you expecting Covid vaccines to be perfect? The main problem isn’t the vaccines, the main problem is the people that won’t get one. We’re we better off 6 months ago when this was raging, deaths were high and most things were shut down?
Blame the unvaccinated bro. Literally all their fault. Nothing really we can do about it.I was expecting as someone who got vaccinated my life returning to normalcy 4 months after getting the vaccine. Instead we are now back to masks, testing protocols, etc as if I never got the vaccine.
I think that the potential of not getting it and the reduction in harm faced would be enough satisfaction from getting it. We're not going back to normal with our vaccination rates and the Delta variant's virulence.I was expecting as someone who got vaccinated my life returning to normalcy 4 months after getting the vaccine. Instead we are now back to masks, testing protocols, etc as if I never got the vaccine.
That was a flawed expectation. It was a possibility, but not a foregone conclusion.I was expecting as someone who got vaccinated my life returning to normalcy 4 months after getting the vaccine. Instead we are now back to masks, testing protocols, etc as if I never got the vaccine.
This is so accurate. If all we had was MySpace the world would be much better right now.Blame the unvaccinated bro. Literally all their fault. Nothing really we can do about it.
I truly believe if this happened in 1999 before Facebook and Twitter and everything else we’d be close to like 90% vaxxed if not more but we have all agreed to this social media disaster of a life and now are paying for it. Too many dumb people have access to too much misinformation.
Not sure why. It's been clear since last April that there is a LARGE group of people in this country that is going to make that difficult to do. Throw on top of that the gullibility of the average person and the motivations of the mainstream media they love to consume and it's really easy to see how we got where we are.I was expecting as someone who got vaccinated my life returning to normalcy 4 months after getting the vaccine. Instead we are now back to masks, testing protocols, etc as if I never got the vaccine.
I get that. I don't even care about the blame game. But if I'm fully vaccinated and comfortable being around other people without a mask and comfortable returning to normalcy now I'm being told I cant.Blame the unvaccinated bro. Literally all their fault. Nothing really we can do about it.
I truly believe if this happened in 1999 before Facebook and Twitter and everything else we’d be close to like 90% vaxxed if not more but we have all agreed to this social media disaster of a life and now are paying for it. Too many dumb people have access to too much misinformation.
I don’t know about that. I went to a hockey game with 18,000 people a few weeks ago. Having a birthday party with 15 people Sunday.I get that. I don't even care about the blame game. But if I'm fully vaccinated and comfortable being around other people without a mask and comfortable returning to normalcy now I'm being told I cant.
Buckle up. It’s gonna get worse in a few monthsjobarules said:I get that. I don't even care about the blame game. But if I'm fully vaccinated and comfortable being around other people without a mask and comfortable returning to normalcy now I'm being told I cant.
QFT. Sig-worthy.Capella said:... we have all agreed to this social media disaster of a life and now are paying for it. Too many dumb people have access to too much misinformation.
A few weeks ago being the key. Things are changing rapidly this week.Capella said:I don’t know about that. I went to a hockey game with 18,000 people a few weeks ago. Having a birthday party with 15 people Sunday.
A few weeks ago being the key. Things are changing rapidly this week.
Yep, lots of people choosing natural selection.woodstock said:Just mind-bottling is the resistance to this vaccine and the repercussions thereof.
I'm really leery of Darwin arguments being used to justify the notion that vaccines are the way to go. It seems rather inhumane, if you ask me. COVID could -- and has -- be used as an argument for Darwin because of comorbidities and the elderly. I'm not sure Darwin is the tack to take.Yep, lots of people choosing natural selection.
But for those who have the ability to get vaccinated without health repercussions, and still choose to out of 'issues of freedom'? Thinking of themselves only? Seems appropriate.I'm really leery of Darwin arguments being used to justify the notion that vaccines are the way to go. It seems rather inhumane, if you ask me. COVID could -- and has -- be used as an argument for Darwin because of comorbidities and the elderly. I'm not sure Darwin is the tack to take.
It seems cruel.
I can understand your point in that context.I'm really leery of Darwin arguments being used to justify the notion that vaccines are the way to go. It seems rather inhumane, if you ask me. COVID could -- and has -- be used as an argument for Darwin because of comorbidities and the elderly. I'm not sure Darwin is the tack to take.
It seems cruel.
Still seems harsh, even as frustrated as I am with the unvaccinated. Just not a route I'm personally going down.But for those who have the ability to get vaccinated without health repercussions, and still choose to out of 'issues of freedom'? Thinking of themselves only? Seems appropriate.
So is not caring for the overall good of those in your community.Still seems harsh, even as frustrated as I am with the unvaccinated. Just not a route I'm personally going down.
... and people who smoke, and people who eat too much junk, and...Maybe we need to deny healthcare to anyone that gets Covid and was eligible to be vaccinated.
This is going to be one of those things that varies quite a bit from community to community. At least in my corner of woods (blue-tinged island in an otherwise red state), everybody is basically just rolling along like the pandemic is over, and things are in fact fine. Students come back to campus in a few weeks, and we know that at least half of them won't be vaccinated, so I do expect things to change in the next month or so, but my family and I are vaccinated anyway so what do I care.jobarules said:I get that. I don't even care about the blame game. But if I'm fully vaccinated and comfortable being around other people without a mask and comfortable returning to normalcy now I'm being told I cant.
God-forbid if/when a new variant seriously affects our young, but I believe that is the only time in which opinions on vaccines will shift heavily towards the pro-vaccine mindset. I believe because this isn't currently harming our young, it isn't treated as serious as it should be. I hope that time never comes, but if it does, I expect to see a huge shift toward getting vaccines.
I didn't necessarily want to like-emoji this post because it could be read as kind of a misanthropic reaction ... but I've had similar thoughts.I could see a game theory exercise ...
I didn't necessarily want to like-emoji this post because it could be read as kind of a misanthropic reaction ... but I've had similar thoughts.
Not misanthropic, just being real as I see it: Not every time, but quite often, with the earlier strains/variants ... people have generally not paid for irresponsible COVID behavior. Not making the point that "they should have paid, dam-mit!", just making the point that many people have, in fact, kind of skated through so far even when they've not taken COVID seriously. And these people who have skated through ... their experiences to date have probably reinforced any anti-masking/anti-vaccine stances. "I've been OK so far ... what's the big deal?"
I could see a game theory exercise that shows at what point a virus becomes deadly enough to convince folks to get vaccinated without killing us all off. I'm not sure where Covid fits in to that but it's possible that overall lives could have been saved if Covid had been a little more deadly than it is/has been so far.
I didn't necessarily want to like-emoji this post because it could be read as kind of a misanthropic reaction ... but I've had similar thoughts.
Not misanthropic, just being real as I see it: Not every time, but quite often, with the earlier strains/variants ... people have generally not paid for irresponsible COVID behavior. Not making the point that "they should have paid, dam-mit!", just making the point that many people have, in fact, kind of skated through so far even when they've not taken COVID seriously. And these people who have skated through ... their experiences to date have probably reinforced any anti-masking/anti-vaccine stances. "I've been OK so far ... what's the big deal?"
The problem now is that COVID is not standing still. Delta can and does affect healthy young people in greater numbers than previous strains & variants.Many of the people that are foregoing the vaccine are doing so because Covid isn't so "deadly" and only affects old/damaged people and not healthy young people.
The problem now is that COVID is not standing still. Delta can and does affect healthy young people in greater numbers than previous strains & variants.
Yes, many young healthy people will still skate through Delta. But make no mistake: there's not guarantees that future variants won't be able to turn the screws even harder.
So many things about our country have been put on full blast the last 5 years.Capella said:https://apple.news/ArAXdIeqbTc2a9VnCW3tSCQ
Once, at a grocery store, a woman told her she was nervous about getting the vaccine because of a rumor on the internet that it can make you magnetic. "I said, 'Do you really believe that?' And she said, 'Well, I'm not sure.' " Kellebrew recounts. So she found a magnet in the store and demonstrated on a person to whom she had just given the shot. "The magnet kept falling off her arm, and I said, 'Is that what you needed to see?' And she said, 'Yes. I think I'll get a shot.' " Kellebrew now travels with a magnet.
We never had a chance. We are the dumbest country.
Darwin/natural selection is not an ‘argument.’I'm really leery of Darwin arguments being used to justify the notion that vaccines are the way to go. It seems rather inhumane, if you ask me. COVID could -- and has -- be used as an argument for Darwin because of comorbidities and the elderly. I'm not sure Darwin is the tack to take.
It seems cruel.
You're reading what I wrote incorrectly, as is often the case in the PSF when people are making niggling points. I wrote that the current state of who the disease selects could be used as an argument for Darwinian selection in this particular instance, which we can't possibly know.Darwin/natural selection is not an ‘argument.’
Wow. Niggling points? You may consider maybe 2-3 less snarky statements interacting over single sentence replies. It’s sort of ironic for one negging about PSF.You're reading what I wrote incorrectly, as is often the case in the PSF when people are making niggling points. I wrote that the current state of who the disease selects could be used as an argument for Darwinian selection in this particular instance, which we can't possibly know.
Once again, though, you correct people and you do you. I find the people with the moxie to do it the most often wind up looking the stupidest on the board and have the lowest reading comprehension that there is. Enjoy!
I edited my statement to better reflect what was I felt was an appropriate response and the way I really felt about Darwinism, but it was a pedantic and niggling point you were making, one that lacked reading comprehension.Wow. Niggling points? You may consider maybe 2-3 less snarky statements interacting over single sentence replies. It’s sort of ironic for one negging about PSF.
It was not meant as a pedantic or niggling point. I don’t think it is, but ok. You said you were done with Darwin, and I’ll respect that.I edited my statement to better reflect what was I felt was an appropriate response and the way I really felt about Darwinism, but it was a pedantic and niggling point you were making, one that lacked reading comprehension.
I'm just reiterating in case you missed me edit, but please allow me to apologize for the tone in my response. That's not really how I want to work it. I'm just sensitive from the invective of the PSF.It was not meant as a pedantic or niggling point. I don’t think it is, but ok. You said you were done with Darwin, and I’ll respect that.
jobarules said:I was expecting as someone who got vaccinated my life returning to normalcy 4 months after getting the vaccine. Instead we are now back to masks, testing protocols, etc as if I never got the vaccine.
That's what I doing from now on. If you get covid I no longer care.Nobody is enforcing the mask thing. Shift to the dark side and say #### it, make me.
Hey whatever the motivation you need I guess, just get the shotThe rate of people receiving their first COVID vaccine dose in Louisiana has tripled in recent weeks. Going by 7-day average ... the vaccination rate now is about where it was in mid-April -- and trending upward
Data source from CDC. Use filters to get info for your state.
How about not having to sign away liability of the pharmaceutical company. If it is safe then stop this requirement.Hey whatever the motivation you need I guess, just get the shot