A LOT of free speech contributes to the hate and violence in this country. But attacking free speech is the worst possible response.I’d say the President spending months up to and after the election telling people the election is rigged and spreading disinformation about voting would be just as high on the list
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January 6th - what will happen? (4 Viewers)
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moleculo
Footballguy
Yenrub
Footballguy
We have seen “justification” for deadly force being used when people were running away or holding cell phones
The Commish
Footballguy
NPR has begun looking at this. This all appears to start with I&A and the flow of information from there.
If you're interested GB
They'll be doing more on this in the future.
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urbanhack
Fight The Power!
But they have no issues being prepared for BLM and other protests.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/interactive/2021/blm-protest-capitol-riot-police-comparison/
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Attacking deliberate disinformation campaigns by people preying on the gullible is essential to preserving this country.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
You should visit the "another killing at the hands of police" thread. Seems the bar is pretty low for what justifies deadly force.
dozer
Footballguy
I don't think he is defending the actions of them at all. He is correctly pointing out that the media is hyprocritical and focused on incorrectly calling January 6th a violent issurection while keeping quiet all last summer regarding the violent BLM/Antifa rioters were actually murdering police.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
The balanced view is that that on 1/6/21 hundreds of people did something in the Capitol Building that on any other day of the year would have gotten themselves arrested AT THE LEAST....and dropped on the floor by a bullet from a LE official at the worst. ETA: And an overwhelming majority of Americans would have no problem with it.
For some reason, people such as yourselves refuse to acknowledge that.
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The Commish
Footballguy
Small sample size of what happens when everyday institutions/organizations within our government are forced to focus on the politics rather than their jobs.
dozer
Footballguy
Apple Jack
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
Do you believe in Santa Claus? Do you believe OJ was innocent? Do you believe Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK?
See, asking random questions is fun isn't it?
I am not referring to calling out Trump's lies. What I am referring to is the deplatforming, censoring, banning, demonitizing, cancel culture non-sense which makes it far more difficult for right-wing to be heard.
quick-hands
Footballguy
the moops
Footballguy
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Do you think the election was stolen from Donald Trump is not a random question.
ETA: According to his son, RFK believed there was more than one gunman.
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moleculo
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dozer
Footballguy
No. No. Yes.
Donald Trump lost a free and fair election by a margin so large there is absolutely no question that he lost. It wasn’t even close.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
It makes it far more difficult for people spreading misinformation and ratcheting up rage in the gullible to be heard. Not everybody wants that kind of stuff associated with their products. Welcome to freedom. You're welcome to start your own platform.
dozer
Footballguy
When the right wing complains about non-existing things like a stolen election they do not deserve to be heard. Cancel the lies.
Dickies
Footballguy
I agree they needed a lot more security and I’d like to know why there wasn’t. Reasonable people suspected something like this possibly happening and Trump encouraged it.
Regardless, the reason they got past security was because they were violent.
People who believe they are the authority on what needs to be heard do not deserve to be heard.
Dickies
Footballguy
The media wasn’t keeping quiet about the BLM protests/riots. It was one of the biggest news stories of the summer
The Commish
Footballguy
Herb
Footballguy
moleculo
Footballguy
Actially it is a question he always asks and I have already answered. His act is tired and repetitive
Herb
Footballguy
I have not seen your answer. I would also point out that some would say the same of your act, especially if you are indeed Noonan 2.0
dozer
Footballguy
dozer
Footballguy
?? Noonan 2.0? Not sure what you mean here. My answer was I don't believe there was a legitimate chance Joe Biden received 81 million votes. So yes, I believe there was voter fraud. Was it enough to steal it from Trump? That part is debatable.
dozer
Footballguy
Thank you.
Are you aware that the Trump Campaign brought over 60 lawsuits challenging the results of the election and lost all but one?
I’m not sure how you can debate fraud after losing in court so many times, but but I am open to hearing you out.
quick-hands
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
It's pure entertainment to me that both these candidates had record amounts of votes but only Biden's count total is questioned 
Question them all or question none of them...stop being lazy.
Question them all or question none of them...stop being lazy.Apple Jack
Footballguy
There was some fraud discovered. By Republicans. And then Trump and lapdog trying to coerce the GA Secretary of State to "find" votes for him.
General Malaise
Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
The hatred for Trump galvanized voters who ordinarily don't vote and there's a lot of those people. It's not rocket science and it's not fraud. The citizens had enough of the mountebank and voted him out.
dozer
Footballguy
quick-hands
Footballguy
dozer
Footballguy
I really have no idea what point you are trying to make.
Do you think the election was stolen?
quick-hands
Footballguy
No. But i think trying to cancel arguments is stupid. How is that for my point?
Do you think trump colluded with the russians?
Oh but i do think every election should be forensically audited.
Herb
Footballguy
So you think that Biden's vote totals were fraudulent. I would call that a giant 'yes' as to your answer on whether the election was stolen.
the moops
Footballguy
Do you think that this election was not secure? This has been the most scrutinized election in history and there has been ZERO evidence found in the 60+ lawsuits and the many recounts and the on and on and on
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