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Is is pretty much DeSantis, though I wouldn't classify any of his talk as "crazy". There were things I disagreed with, but he wasn't over the top or anything. All that began to happen after he started getting talked up for President.
That doesn’t really address the point made though. As its hard to know how many of those were Trump vs any GOP candidate type votes. And as was pointed out …no, it was not the most votes ever.
It will go one of two ways:
What do you think happens if they reached members of congress or the VP before they were able to leave the building?
Honestly - Nothing. I think it was all bluster.
It was a pretty significant event, but I guess I can see it as his parting shot (pun unintended). The whole event was very sad and epitomized just how much work there is needed to heal this country (or at the very least get back to civility)
I agree it was a significant event. It was sad and disgusting and hurt the republican party more than anything else and for years and years. That being said i think the endless focus on this is just the democrats trying to keep their knee on the republican's throats, and I don't blame them.
Yes they would have been shot. Pence was in no danger. Heck from what I've been told around here is that the sight of 500 national guardsmen caused the riot to break up.
To me, it's newsworthy because it is not widely acknowledged as a serious event by a significant number of republicans. Your statement above is more of an acknowledgement than I have heard from most of Team Right Wing over the past 6 months. I think that's a problem. We can not put this behind us as long as some 30% of the population claims this was a matter of a few tourists getting carried away. For crying out loud, yesterday (day before maybe?) people were claiming that most of the protestors went thru security and had their bags checked.
Oh if the other side has an event like this you can bet Mitch and Jim Jordan will be finding a way to hold multiple hearings over multiple years and I highly doubt they will compare it to a peaceful tour.
Attempted insurrection. Based on months of lies by the out going President. This is insane. Do you think it is any less worse because our military and police didn’t have to kill a bunch of citizens?
Well that s your opinion and of course you are entitled to it. I don't agree with you at all, but that's my opinion.
And by the way. Couple things..."universally acknowledging" anything is impossible. Doesn't matter the subject. So that's out.
I'm not basing my opinion off of anything other than what is posted in this thread. If you haven't been reading it, feel free to go back and note how impossible it seems for our friends from the right to
I'll go with the convictions. But you won't catch me anywhere near a parade anytime soon.
one side downplays it, the other focuses on the downplay, the side downplaying it accuses the other of focusing on it, and on, and on…
You used a number, 30% of the population. If you're able to get that number simply from going back and reading the posts as you suggest then you sir are pretty doggone impressive.
thanks! i think it's more about Trump and his supporters in the government......but I agree with your analysis. That's the crappy thing about the Republican response. They could right their ship rather quickly if the same leaders who cowered and cried for help actually had the gravitas to stand up to Trump.
I'm not so sure. Thought it was pretty frightening as it occurred, but I'm glad this is only a matter of opinion/speculation
I think I am with this to a point, but think it was more than just a few that meant business or would have done something. There was an NPR pod today profiling one of the guys - creepy stuff.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/mccarthy-expected-appoint-republicans-jan-6-select-committee-n1273226
No. Those people just wanted to have a rational, elegant discussion about the role of democratic processes in our government.
And we need to continue to draw the distinction of "the crowd" here. It was a very different mix of people after 1pm EST time as the march began. There's a reason many defenders in this thread want to lump in the events (and crowd size) for the entire day. Their problem is, there was a clear delineation of when things started to go bad. I had multiple friends (both supporters and people there just to watch the show) tell me this. The % you talk about here skyrockets afte 1pm EST when all the sane people tapped out from the earlier festivities and left.
Very good point, and personally I would have 3 versions of the "crowd". crowd 1 was at the Trump speech and in general protesting. Crowd 2 is a little angrier and the ones gathering at the Capital. Crowd 3 is anybody who decided to go into the Capital. Each step lost more people that were there to protest or to see what was going on, and the % of people with ill intent goes up.
DOJ has unveiled an indictment against five Floridians accused of attacking at least seven police officers during the US Capitol insurrection. The defendants were arrested last week.
