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January 6th - what will happen?


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13 minutes ago, Leroy Hoard said:

And it's not exactly like the police were going up against some elite force. These people seemed to have no clue what they were doing.

That is actually more frightening to me - what if an attack was actually COORDINATED by either foreign or domestic terrorists.  

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4 minutes ago, Sea Duck said:

Following up: one of the deaths was a 55-year-old from Alabama who had a heart attack.

The names of the other 2 people have been released, but I can't find any info about how they died.

Kevin Greeson (heart attack), 55, of Alabama, Kevin Benjamin Phillips 50, of Pennsylvania and Rosanne Boylan (crushed), 34, of Georgia

https://twitter.com/kevinGreeson5

 

 

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7 minutes ago, lakerstan said:

That is actually more frightening to me - what if an attack was actually COORDINATED by either foreign or domestic terrorists.  

That's the first thing I thought of.  These "patriots" that "love their nation" gave every other enemy the blueprint to execute an attack on our elected officials. 

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1 minute ago, lakerstan said:
14 minutes ago, Leroy Hoard said:

And it's not exactly like the police were going up against some elite force. These people seemed to have no clue what they were doing.

That is actually more frightening to me - what if an attack was actually COORDINATED by either foreign or domestic terrorists.  

I think what we've seen in recent history is that you don't have to "coordinate" an attack to achieve your objective. Whether it's Russia or China or antifa or The Pentavirate, it doesn't take much to sow discord and to give a little push to vulnerable and impressionable people on the edge of lawlessness.

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4 hours ago, gianmarco said:

Yep.

Watching these slimy cohorts try to walk it back now when it's no longer politically suitable to remain allied is nauseating.

I was reminded of a saying today that we have all heard before "Rats leaving a sinking ship are still rats"

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3 hours ago, SWC said:
4 hours ago, 36Kevon said:

C’mon. You know what a trump supporter looks like. You can pick out who is who in that video. There were plenty of Trump supporters on tape yesterday doing bad things.  There is no need to play dumb to the other bad seeds that were there. 

can you please stop 

ignore is your friend take that to the bank bromingo brohan

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33 minutes ago, Leroy Hoard said:
41 minutes ago, lakerstan said:

I was reading freerepublic.com over the holidays and it was very evident the intent was going to be there.  I just didn’t think they would be able to execute since I believed law enforcement would stop them.

And it's not exactly like the police were going up against some elite force. These people seemed to have no clue what they were doing.

by those people do you mean the trump guy dressed like a deer viking spirit animal or the trump guy dressed like santa clause take that to the bank brohan 

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19 minutes ago, TripleThreat said:

https://twitter.com/ConnorASheets/status/1347270411550154753 

Here's a photo of Kevin Greeson - the 55-year-old Athens, Alabama, man who died of a "medical emergency" during the unrest in Washington yesterday - posted on Parler last month w/ the caption "I wish these mother####ers would come to my hood!"

He's got some sort of manifesto posted on his twitter.  His family is just horrified such a good old boy would get caught up in this.

Only the best people.

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3 hours ago, Anarchy99 said:
4 hours ago, JAA said:

That officer deserved a commendation.  He had no idea what those rioters were capable of.  Yet he stood there, with his stick, trying to protect politicians and staff.  Amazing.

I also give mad props to Representative Tory Nehls (R) of Texas (a former sheriff). When they came to move everyone in the House to safety, he stayed behind with some other Texas Representatives who were ex-military to help quell the insurrection. He's the one in the blue shirt in the pictures with the agents defending the door with weapons drawn. He was interviewed on TV and said he tried calming people down speaking to them through the door. He said they were incredibly angry and would not listen to reason.

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1 minute ago, SWC said:

by those people do you mean the trump guy dressed like a deer viking spirit animal or the trump guy dressed like santa clause take that to the bank brohan 

UFC 1600: deer viking spirt animal vs man bear pig

I'll buy it  

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3 minutes ago, beef said:
6 minutes ago, SWC said:

by those people do you mean the trump guy dressed like a deer viking spirit animal or the trump guy dressed like santa clause take that to the bank brohan 

UFC 1600: deer viking spirt animal vs man bear pig

I'll buy it  

12 rounds in the octogon with no holds barred which is good because who knows what crazy stuff a man bear pig or deer viking spirit animal are going to whip out brohans look they are going to sell you the whole seat but your only gonna need the edge take that to the bank 

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5 hours ago, 36Kevon said:

The skinny guys with black coats and black backpacks and never worn before maga hats are Antifa.  Watch the big guy in camo try to stop the aggressive one at 0:45 in the video. 

"Big Guy"

Your big fella is not so innocent when you see a video from the night before. 30 seconds in laying out the plan for tomorrow. Not the smartest folks out there given the amount of video. 

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45 minutes ago, 2Squirrels1Nut said:

That's the first thing I thought of.  These "patriots" that "love their nation" gave every other enemy the blueprint to execute an attack on our elected officials. 

It reminded me of when I watched the movie White House Down thinking how ridiculous and unrealistic the plot was.  Now I'm not so sure.  

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37 minutes ago, culdeus said:

He's got some sort of manifesto posted on his twitter.  His family is just horrified such a good old boy would get caught up in this.

Only the best people.

I don't blame his family's sentiment. I'm sure they saw good sides of him and want to hold onto that. I encourage everybody to give his family a pass for their sentiments. 

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1 hour ago, parasaurolophus said:

I actually initially said he was a liar because he said it was ALL orchestrated by out of state folks. Now obviously I got my politicians mixed up there since it was the ST Paul mayor that declared ALL and  Walz declared 80% of it was, which isnt really any different. Saying 80% was caused by out of state troublemakers when only a small % was isnt any different substantively than saying all of it was from out of state troublemakers. 

And in either case bringing up a one off doesnt counter anything since I didnt say he lied by saying any of it was orchestrated by out of state folks. So no I am not moving the goalposts.

 

 

Carter said all the people arrested in St. Paul on one night (I think the Friday after the Floyd death - might have been Saturday) were from outside of St. Paul. That's different than saying the riots were orchestrated by out of state folks.

No one said it was ALL orchestrated by out of town folks, is my point. They were talking about arrests. Orchestration and arrests are two different things. I'm guessing lots of people who "caused" it weren't arrested. And lots of people who didn't "cause" it did. I don't think they were enforcing the curfew at that point, but if they were, lots of folks got arrested for protesting past curfew within the end of that first week.

I'm sorry, I'm derailing this. Your point is good- it's a misdirection. I just didn't like the way it was positioned :).

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26 minutes ago, EZD222 said:

"Big Guy"

Your big fella is not so innocent when you see a video from the night before. 30 seconds in laying out the plan for tomorrow. Not the smartest folks out there given the amount of video. 

Thanks. That does appear to be the same guy.  He is a turd and a trump supporter. 

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What is the reason the Maga types dropped the blue line flag?  It was basically nonexistent  yesterday.  

I thought they enjoyed how triggered it got people.  

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8 minutes ago, ericttspikes said:

So when Trump refuses to leave Jan. 20, what happens next?

I'll go with:

1% chance he walks out voluntarily in a somewhat normal manner

29% chance some level of force (could be as little as security holding him by the arms to guide him out) is used

70% chance he walks out with a security escort, but no physical contact is ultimately needed

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3 hours ago, gianmarco said:

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said President Trump was "completely wrong" to encourage a mob of protesters to storm the Capitol building in DC."

"In so far as he encouraged people to go to Congress, and in so far as the President has consistently cast doubt on the outcome of a free and fair election, I believe that to be completely wrong," Boris Johnson said in a press conference.

"I unreservedly condemn encouraging people to behave in the disgraceful way they did in the Capitol."

politics aside, he is acting like a leader

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3 hours ago, bostonfred said:
3 hours ago, Todem said:

The Social Dilemma. 

Heavy regulation is coming.....make no mistake. We have to as a society get control of this runaway demon. 

It is truly destroying our world slowly, post by post. I really hope they can get control of this in time. They (Our FCC) have to start......NOW. 

TV is regulated, radio is regulated......the time has come for social media to be federally regulated and make these companies have standards and tolls to pay. The algo’s are out of control.

Enough is enough. 

https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1347178782768197632?s=19

Awesome read by Yang

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3 hours ago, Rich Conway said:
3 hours ago, Sinn Fein said:

Josh Dawsey @jdawsey1 · 6m

Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao is resigning, per two officials. Cites yesterday’s events as reason in email to DOT colleagues, per draft. First Cabinet secretary to resign. Chao is married to Mitch McConnell. More TK.

 

 

This was going back and forth yesterday as to whether she would resign.

Coward.  She should have stepped up and called for the 25th and announced she would be one of the Cabinet members to sign on rather than resign.

Its prolly why she did resign.  Imagine the optics for MM here.

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2 hours ago, bucksoh said:
19 hours ago, The Dude said:

Historians tend to rely on fact

Facts will almost always come out.  It has been squashed by the courts and the media, but it will come out 1 year from now or 10 years from now, or 50 years.  

What is sad in all of this if and when the facts do come out.  Will any of you people on this board change their minds?

Because its impossible that the facts are out now ...

/me sighs

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12 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

Brittany Shepherd @brittanys

Just in:

@PressSec to brief on camera at 5:15 pm.

 

This ought to be interesting.

CYA time

 

ETA - Statement condemning the violence, and saying its time for an orderly transition of power.  No questions.

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2 hours ago, shader said:

He's been banned, but he's posting on Parler and people are pasting screenshots of it.  He now claims Pence is going to arrest and execute Trump. 

 

I half expect him to announce that he's a democrat and was just trolling Trump supporters the whole time.  Crazy thing is, he may have been responsible for the GA senate loss.  He had a rally there a few weeks ago and made comments that were negative about the GOP and supporting the GOP that many think resonated to some degree in Georgia. 

He's just really a wacko, but in the last month, Trump has elevated a lot of wackos to prominence.

Whether it's Rudy or Lin, it all starts at the top of the power chain.

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Scott MacFarlane @MacFarlaneNews · 15m

!!!! US Capitol Police union statement: "We prioritized lives over property, leading people to safety. Not one Member of Congress or their staff was injured. Our officers did their jobs. Our leadership did not. Our Law Enforcement partners that assisted us were remarkable.”

 

Obviously an investigation will follow - but I suspect two culprits: Capitol Police Hierarchy - for failure to be prepared; and whomever was responsible for getting the National Guard in place.  See reports that Maryland was ready and waiting to send in troops but did not get authorization for 45+ minutes.  That is a communication break-down somewhere - intentional or otherwise.

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38 minutes ago, ericttspikes said:

So when Trump refuses to leave Jan. 20, what happens next?

All the codes and passwords and authority transfers at noon. At that point, Trump will be nothing more than a tourist who went behind the ropes.

Secret Service personnel has already been shuffled just in case there were any "Trump loyalists" who might be willing to entertain a banana coup.

If Trump is still in the White House at noon -- and I doubt he will be -- then they'll give him a few minutes to collect his stuff and leave voluntarily. Otherwise, he'll get the "Sir" treatment.

 

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5 minutes ago, JAA said:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dc-protests-rock-california-utah-michigan/story?id=75108241

Kinda reminds me of the protestors who got the guns pulled on them by the lawyer couple.  Wonder what would have happened if the gov would have pulled some guns on these protestors?  Stand your ground?

Reading that article is kind of disappointing to not have pictures of the MN larpers. 

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