Drunken Cowboy
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I don't understand how this could have been allowed to happen. It is a miracle more officers were not killed.
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January 6th - what will happen? (5 Viewers)
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Shatner!
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Rich Conway
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Rich Conway
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You know, as I read Hawley's statement, I thought to myself, "I'd be very surprised, and a bit disappointed, if Biden referred to them as Nazis. I would have thought Biden to be above such things." Naturally, when I did my research on Biden's actual statements, I learned that Hawley made it up. No longer surprised.
Shatner!
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A little more on what was actually said:
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/533449-biden-says-cruz-other-republicans-responsible-for-big-lie-that-fueled
Nothing that Biden said was wrong here. He compared Trump's tactic of lying over and over and over again with the same message (a method he himself has admitted to in the past) to that of Joseph Goebels who also engaged in the same tactic. He then called out Cruz and others as acolytes for supporting these lies. Simple fact. Just more of the same sad behavior that has come to represent this faction of the Republican party. Behave badly and then howl like a victim in feigned disgust for being called out for your behavior.
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culdeus
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https://twitter.com/jsrailton?s=09
This guy doing the lords work. He's finding all the skinny antifa guys and reporting them to the fbi /s
This guy doing the lords work. He's finding all the skinny antifa guys and reporting them to the fbi /s
bigbottom
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culdeus
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culdeus
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https://twitter.com/TheBestUn0/status/1347686523852836864?s=09
Went to the riot with his mom. So sweet. Only the best people
Went to the riot with his mom. So sweet. Only the best people
Dinsy Ejotuz
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Fantastic work. I'm sure the Proud Boys, QAnon and White Supremacists appreciate his help in rooting out these anarchists.
culdeus
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I would assume you try to avoid charging these guys (and the mom? lol) till Trump leaves office under the assumption he'll pardon them.
The paper trail these Maga guys leave is really coming back to bite them. Face search tools are just so powerful now given social media to press against.
The paper trail these Maga guys leave is really coming back to bite them. Face search tools are just so powerful now given social media to press against.
JAA
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JAA
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AAABatteries
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Pardons are only good for crimes you’ve been charged with or convicted of, right? Maybe they bait Trump by charging them with something minor to start.
AAABatteries
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Zow
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urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Sammy3469
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Trump could give them blanket pardons. It think more than anything the career prosecutors will wait for the Biden administration to determine how they want/if they want to charge these rioters with the more serious crimes. Figure out who everyone was first, if there was a larger conspiracy, and then charge sedition if you want.
Having said that I do think it’s a mistake to give these yahoos bail (if that’s what they are doing).
bigbottom
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That is a really interesting article. He is really trying to explain away a lot. Thanks for the link.
parasaurolophus
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gianmarco
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bigbottom
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The vet. Said he wore tactical gear to protect against antifa. And that he just picked up the zip ties and was planning to give them to Capitol Police.
kwille
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How about don't enter restricted areas in the first place? Be one less person Capitol Police have to deal with. Pretty weak sauce from this guy. He should know better.
Death Bytes
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As I was looking at these pictures, I just couldn't help but think to myself, "I bet she makes some killer biscuits and gravy."
JAA
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lakerstan
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parasaurolophus
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Yeah, i dont buy that he was going to give the ties to the police, but if you look at the twitter thread from the guy that ID'd him, the zip ties were more than likely not brought in, but found on scene. That thread showed at least one raided capitol police bag.
Culdeus linked the thread above.
GoBirds
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Wait....you mean they weren’t actively trying to take hostages using the zip ties like many in here claimed?
lakerstan
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kwille
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Funny you say that. I'm finding myself picturing these folks at home doing normal stuff too. I'm conflicted. On one hand I'm disgusted. On the other I have empathy. If these folks seriously thought that their election was stolen I can understand their anger and even their reaction to a certain level. It makes me livid that Trump and his boot lickers conned so many into believing that their democracy and voice had been defiled. People need to be accountable for their actions and I hope those who broke into the Capitol get appropriate punishment. Still, everytime I watch footage from Wednesday I find myself muttering to myself something like "those poor deluded fools" and feeling genuinely sorry for them.
parasaurolophus
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I domt think we can eliminate the possibility that is why they grabbed them. I mean they are restraints. They only have so many designed uses and i dont think he was saving them for the bedroom.
Apple Jack
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Ramsay Hunt Experience
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Oh, well I’m convinced. Let’s thank him for his service with a parade.bigbottom said:
GroveDiesel
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Of course he’s not going to just come out and say he committed multiple felonies. He had time to make up his excuses/defense. IMO, they hold no water with me, but not unexpected that these guys would be cowards and not stand behind their actions.bigbottom said:
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Doug B
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Assuming there are multiple legitimate charges that can be levied against Chansley and Johnson:
Could they be arrested today, say, for vandalism, and then pardoned by Trump -- and then arrested again on 1/21 for trespassing (or whatever)? Or is that kind of double-jeopardy dirty pool?
Also, just spitballing but: was it at all possible that these men were arrested on local or state charges for things unrelated to the Capitol incursion? So that they wouldn't be pardonable by the President? And then they could face federal charges starting on 1/21?
In Spanish language media in South Florida, lies and conspiracy theories about a stolen election and storming of the capitol abound. Spanish language media contributed in a big way to Trump's success in Florida.
>>“You can put on a radio station at anytime and you can find the same narrative: The election has been stolen.
Tejera said an important distinction in Spanish-language media is that “it’s in a different language, so nobody pays attention to what we do. We get away with murder.”
“Antifa sent busloads of people to Washington,” host Lucy Pereda said on Thursday on WWFE’s La Poderosa 670 AM. “There are photos of antifa people inside the Capitol … They are the ones who started the assault, and Trump supporters just followed them.”<<
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article248354325.html
>>“You can put on a radio station at anytime and you can find the same narrative: The election has been stolen.
Tejera said an important distinction in Spanish-language media is that “it’s in a different language, so nobody pays attention to what we do. We get away with murder.”
“Antifa sent busloads of people to Washington,” host Lucy Pereda said on Thursday on WWFE’s La Poderosa 670 AM. “There are photos of antifa people inside the Capitol … They are the ones who started the assault, and Trump supporters just followed them.”<<
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article248354325.html
Depends on the language used in the pardon - but I would not expect a pardon here. GOP is certainly hoping for no pardons.
But, the president could pardon the conduct, rather than specific charges. This would only apply to federal charges.
But - and I am really uncertain here - I don't know if DC has any laws that are considered non-Federal, given the structure of DC, and how it falls under the ambit of Congress.
tri-man 47
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If Trump pardons them, I think that seals the deal to having him removed. Even if he waits until the 19th, an impeachment would take away his pension, and he could be barred from any future political office. I'm not convinced he's willing to trade his political future for an elk man.
zoonation
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