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So Cruz's argument is "We made up  a bunch of lies about the election being rigged. Its been disproven, but some people believe our lies. So we should object to the certification because of some people who believe the lies we made up."

Doesn't seem very persuasive.

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The President told MAGA to do it MAGA said they were going to do it MAGA filmed themselves doing it Afterwards, MAGA bragged about it Clearly, it was ANTIFA’s fault

One is an ugly, decrepit wasteland ruled by an assortment of villains hoping to impose their will on peace-loving people everywhere who otherwise just want to be left alone to tend to their gardens.

So they're finally following the CDC guidelines for the pandemic?

Just now, bigbottom said:

His sorry excuse for a beard makes me want to go shave. 

He really does look rough these days. The hair style isn't a great look either.

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Just now, whoknew said:

So Cruz's argument is "We made up  a bunch of lies about the election being rigged. Its been disproven, but some people believe our lies. So we should object to the certification because of some people who believe the lies we made up."

Doesn't seem very persuasive.

This really does sum it all up 

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1 minute ago, bigbottom said:

His sorry excuse for a beard makes me want to go shave. 

Looks like he's growing it out in the back too.  Time for me to cut my mullet.  :angry:

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2 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

A lot of people will.  I will not.

This is like apologizing for something because you have been caught.  He isn't doing the "right" thing here, he is doing the only thing he can.

That's OK. He's doing what he should. We'd be a lot worse off if he was engaging in the same delusions as some of his party, but ultimately it probably wouldn't matter.

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Just now, whoknew said:

So Cruz's argument is "We made up  a bunch of lies about the election being rigged. Its been disproven, but some people believe our lies. So we should object to the certification because of some people believe the lies we made up."

Doesn't seem very persuasive.

'There are a lot of brainwashed people who still believe Trump's conspiracy theories.  Do you really want to disenfranchise them by telling them the truth?' 

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1 minute ago, bigbottom said:

His sorry excuse for a beard makes me want to go shave. 

I can't stop looking at the missing righthand sideburn.

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3 minutes ago, Captain Cranks said:

The Dems should object to Texas going to Trump.  

One Republican Chip Roy  representative from Texas kind of did....

 

That same day, which was swearing-in day for the new Congress, Roy went one gutsy step further. He challenged the seating of 67 House members from the six states where Trump has claimed, without evidence, that victory was stolen from him.

 

 

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Just now, The Commish said:

By the way....what is cruz suggesting happen that didnt happen in the 60+ lawsuits that failed?

I think Cruz is just trying to get the MAGA on his side for 2024, knowing this special 10-day commission will never happen.

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1 minute ago, Ned said:

I can't stop looking at the missing righthand sideburn.

 

2 minutes ago, The Commish said:

I cant stop looking at the shaved sideburn on one side and not the orher :lol:

:hifive:

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Just now, shader said:

I think Cruz is just trying to get the MAGA on his side for 2024, knowing this special 10-day commission will never happen.

Of course he is.  That doesn’t excuse it.  

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3 minutes ago, shader said:

I think Cruz is just trying to get the MAGA on his side for 2024, knowing this special 10-day commission will never happen.

It clearly isn't going to really help him with the MAGA crowd. It will probably keep him off the radar for a primary challenge, but ended any notion he could win the presidency at some point in the future. 

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Just now, Drunken Cowboy said:

It clearly isn't going to really help him with the MAGA crowd. It will probably keep him off the radar for a primary challenge, but ended any notion he could win the presidency at some point in the future. 

I disagree.  The MAGA crowd loves Cruz right now.  If I had to put money on it right now, I'd put it on Cruz being the Republican candidate in 2024.  

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Not to harp on Mitch, but I'm going to talk about it for a second.

Republicans aren't going to get a result.  But Mitch could have easily dug in and left this election in doubt.  He chose to try to re-instill confidence in our democracy and to say that this isn't the role of Congress.  

Mitch has done a lot wrong.  I think this was an important thing to get right. 

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1 minute ago, shader said:

I disagree.  The MAGA crowd loves Cruz right now.  If I had to put money on it right now, I'd put it on Cruz being the Republican candidate in 2024.  

They are going to love more anyone who goes full out conspiracy nonsense. 

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Who was that Republican senator that just spoke? I just turned it on and was immediately (and surprisingly) pleased. 

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2 minutes ago, Shatner! said:

Nice job by Toomey.

Ah, that's him. Yep, that was awesome. 

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3 minutes ago, shader said:

I disagree.  The MAGA crowd loves Cruz right now.  If I had to put money on it right now, I'd put it on Cruz being the Republican candidate in 2024.  

He is +7500 to win in 2024, so if you think he'll be the republican candidate, you'd be foolish not to lock this in right now.  If he's the candidate, you can hedge out your 75-1 bet and make BOATLOADS!!!!!

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1 minute ago, General Malaise said:

He is +7500 to win in 2024, so if you think he'll be the republican candidate, you'd be foolish not to lock this in right now.  If he's the candidate, you can hedge out your 75-1 bet and make BOATLOADS!!!!!

Serious question, who is the front-runner?  Trump?  

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7 minutes ago, shader said:

I disagree.  The MAGA crowd loves Cruz right now.  If I had to put money on it right now, I'd put it on Cruz being the Republican candidate in 2024.  

I don’t think there’s a chance in hell. 

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I mean - how else do you describe this but the President of the US incited a mob to storm the capital and incite a coup?

I'm sure some will complain but that does not seem like an exaggeration. 

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I think Trump yelling, basically, "Follow me to freedom!" and then getting in his car and going home while letting his goons do all the work is probably the most on brand thing you'll ever see.

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22 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

A lot of people will.  I will not.

This is like apologizing for something because you have been caught.  He isn't doing the "right" thing here, he is doing the only thing he can.

 

20 minutes ago, jm192 said:

Hardly.  

He could easily have joined the "This election was stolen" rhetoric.  

The party leader starting off by shooting it down is a powerful statement.  

I'm extremely cynical. I'm glad that McConnell did what he did, but McConnell does what's politically expedient for McConnell. He's doing this because Trump isn't of use to him anymore, not because he suddenly had some epiphany to save the republic. 

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Just now, whoknew said:

I mean - how else do you describe this but the President of the US incited a mob to storm the capital and incite a coup?

I'm sure some will complain but that does not seem like an exaggeration. 

What’s hilarious (or pathetic, or certainly typical), is that after he told them to storm the capital, he left to go hide back at the White House. Leading the troops? Not this President. 

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whoa protesters in the building and the senate hearing abruptly stops this is ridiculous take that to the bank brohans

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20 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

Just agree to disagree.  Too many GOP members came out before this to say they would not support the objections.  There was never any chance that a single one passed.  McConnell knew that, and could have made that speech before now.

There are bigger ramifications than just winning the vote.  

You said Mitch didn't have a choice.  But Cruz demonstrates they all had a choice.  Mitch took the high road.  I'm not asking you to recognize him or give him any credit.  But he could have dug in and further subverted Democracy.  He did the right thing.

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1 minute ago, whoknew said:

I mean - how else do you describe this but the President of the US incited a mob to storm the capital and incite a coup?

I'm sure some will complain but that does not seem like an exaggeration. 

I do not think this is going to happen....but I wonder if there is a scenario where they need to evacuate the capital?  There are tens of thousands of people surrounding the capital and if some of them are armed, they could legitimately get inside and then what?  

I really, really don't think it will go this way, but I imagine there have to be some very nervous people right now.  

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1 minute ago, phandango said:

 

I'm extremely cynical. I'm glad that McConnell did what he did, but McConnell does what's politically expedient for McConnell. He's doing this because Trump isn't of use to him anymore, not because he suddenly had some epiphany to save the republic. 

Sure.  

 

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1 minute ago, shader said:

Serious question, who is the front-runner?  Trump?  

I don't see lines broken out by party.  Here's the frontrunners for 2024 president:

Harris +500
Biden +700
Trump Sr +800  

Then a big drop to.....


Ivanka +2000
Pence +2000
Haley +2000



BIG DROP

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Trump Jr. +4000
Hawley +4000

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DROP DROP DROP

Ted Cruz +7500 along with such notables as......Mark Cuban, former DL Michael Bennett, Socialist Bernie Sanders, Motown's own Sherrod Brown and of course, Mitt Romney.

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Just now, phandango said:

 

I'm extremely cynical. I'm glad that McConnell did what he did, but McConnell does what's politically expedient for McConnell. He's doing this because Trump isn't of use to him anymore, not because he suddenly had some epiphany to save the republic. 

McConnell isn’t of use to McConnell anymore, though I’m not sure he realizes it yet. 
He’s about to become minority leader of a fractured party. If and when the GOP takes power in the Senate again Mitch will not be the majority leader. It’s over: 

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