**Pittsburgh at Cleveland -10(44.5)** That spread can't be right

[Dez 1,101]

I hate that rule.  If the clock is stopped the injured team should not be forced to use a timeout inside 2 minutes. The clock is already stopped. 

[rockaction 26,167]

No clue, Bracie.

The Buffalo game better hold, though. I can't see Buffalo trotting their starters out there after the half. I could be totally wrong, but they'll need to hold onto that lead.

[Bracie Smathers 3,775]

Jake Trotter@Jake_Trotter

Chubb is averaging 11.9 yards per carry… but only has 7 carries

Jake Trotter@Jake_Trotter

#Browns will get the ball to start the second half.

Two words: Nick Chubb

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[JoeSteeler 3,506]

5 minutes ago, Bracie Smathers said:

Is this correct?

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Alex Kozora@Alex_Kozora

With the way things look at halftime (Bills up 22, Ravens up 14). If Browns win, Steelers will play the Browns a third time. If Steelers win, Steelers will play Colts or Titans next weekend. #Steelers

Steelers will play the 6th seed. Looks like if the Ravens win they get the 5th seed over the Browns.

[PizzaDeliveryGuy 26]

Browns' Oline getting worked.

[rockaction 26,167]

Really interesting game so far. Watching it out of the corner of my eye. Need moar Chubb, Cleveland. This is where the threat of OBJ is missed.

[SHIZNITTTT 3,347]

Browns.  Good lord.  What a hard team to watch.  Just not good atm. Clipping 5 plus yards a rush and will not stay with the run.  

[SHIZNITTTT 3,347]

11 minutes ago, Bracie Smathers said:

Jake Trotter@Jake_Trotter

Chubb is averaging 11.9 yards per carry… but only has 7 carries

Jake Trotter@Jake_Trotter

#Browns will get the ball to start the second half.

Two words: Nick Chubb

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Nope

[SHIZNITTTT 3,347]

Pittsburgh beating up on Cleveland in Cleveland with half of the steelers team still in Pittsburgh. Crazy. 

[JoeSteeler 3,506]

Go for it on 4th and 2

[SHIZNITTTT 3,347]

Hey Stefanski try Hunt at qb next series and Mayfield at RB. Maybe use a few backups so you can rest guys for next week.  Oh wait. 

[rockaction 26,167]

1 minute ago, SHIZNITTTT said:

Pittsburgh beating up on Cleveland in Cleveland with half of the steelers team still in Pittsburgh. Crazy. 

At the risk of offending our Cleveland citizens here, they are probably one of the worst teams to ever start 10-3. That's not just me, that's Football Outsiders's historical DVOA measurement of their entire team and an article written back in Week 14 or 15.

[rockaction 26,167]

Just now, JoeSteeler said:

Go for it on 4th and 2

Kicking the field goal there just delays the inevitable.

[amnesiac 889]

 

[JoeSteeler 3,506]

That’s the game 

[fred_1_15301 5,660]

Ok looks like a rematch next week.  

[crushedspirit 137]

Nice penalty

Oh wait!!!!!!!!!! LOL

[Ghost Rider 6,375]

Blatant blow to the head goes uncalled. Terrible. 

[amnesiac 889]

2 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said:

Blatant blow to the head goes uncalled. Terrible. 

yep, they missed it.  

[Ministry of Pain 5,715]

Good for Landry 

[amnesiac 889]

that was a great play.  

[PizzaDeliveryGuy 26]

4 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said:

Blatant blow to the head goes uncalled. Terrible. 

Definitely missed that one. Not used to getting those kind of breaks.

[JoeSteeler 3,506]

Just now, Ministry of Pain said:

Good for Landry 

Why?

[belljr 11,275]

16 minutes ago, fred_1_15301 said:

Ok looks like a rematch next week.  

Edit oops dolphins are losing

Edited January 3 by belljr

[fred_1_15301 5,660]

Just now, belljr said:

Pretty sure it will be the ravens

This was discussed earlier in the thread.  With Ravens, Bills and Browns win, Steelers play Browns.  There doesn’t appear to be a scenario where Steelers meet Ravens next week.

[Sea Duck 1,471]

The Browns are puckering.

[SHIZNITTTT 3,347]

Stefanski may want to get help on Claypool you putz.

[fred_1_15301 5,660]

Going for the extra point is a mistake but who cares.  But still frustrating that a veteran coach like Tomlin still hasn’t figured this out.

[MAC_32 12,800]

1 minute ago, Sea Duck said:

The Browns are puckering.

Nah, that's just our secondary. Well, a worse version of our already bad secondary. 

[Dez 1,101]

Two times had them on 4th and long and couldn't stop them.

[Dez 1,101]

4 minutes ago, fred_1_15301 said:

Going for the extra point is a mistake but who cares.  But still frustrating that a veteran coach like Tomlin still hasn’t figured this out.

Most teams prefer to try to get down 8 and not miss the 2 pointer and lose all their momentuem.  We hardly ever see a team down 9 go for 2.

[Sea Duck 1,471]

If you are going to run down the play clock, then at least do it right and hike it with 1 second left instead of 5.

[fred_1_15301 5,660]

1 minute ago, Dez said:

Most teams prefer to try to get down 8 and not miss the 2 pointer and lose all their momentuem.  We hardly ever see a team down 9 go for 2.

I think with the advent of analytics, a lot of coaches are changing their thought process here.  Tomlin is old school.  The correct call (from a statistical standpoint) is to go for 2 first.  That way if you miss, you have enough time to adjust your game strategy.

[Sea Duck 1,471]

Taking a sack on the edge of field goal territory? OOOOOOOF.

[Sea Duck 1,471]

PUNT THE BALL RIVERBOAT KEV.

 

[SHIZNITTTT 3,347]

Wtf browns just are the browns

[amnesiac 889]

2 minutes ago, SHIZNITTTT said:

Wtf browns just are the browns

did you put money on them or something?

[Sea Duck 1,471]

Geez, may as well just let Pittsburgh score at this point.

[Dez 1,101]

Too bad we have no good kicker and now this game will come down to stopping them on a 2 point conversion

[Sea Duck 1,471]

Start using your timeouts, Cleveland.

[rockaction 26,167]

OMG OMG OMG OMG

Will this happen?

[Dez 1,101]

Had Pitt 4th and 8 and 4th and 10 and couldn't stop either then couldn't get a 1st down then couldn't trust your kicker then couldn't stop them so now comes down to a 2 pointer...did I sum that up ?  Sad

[Ministry of Pain 5,715]

Is Johnson really a back up? 

Steelers seem like they want to actually try and win this game if nothing more than simple momentum going into next week. 

[JoeSteeler 3,506]

Pretty impressed with Rudolph today

[SHIZNITTTT 3,347]

Just now, amnesiac said:

did you put money on them or something?

No.  They just are not good.  So sad to watch.  Half of the Steelers team is in Pittsburgh and Stefanski wants to get fancy pulling Chubb and not PUNTING .    

[Dez 1,101]

1 minute ago, Sea Duck said:

Start using your timeouts, Cleveland.

Uh no not yet they still have to make the 2 pointer you don't give them free time in case they miss.

If they make it still have plenty of time to get in FG range.

[fred_1_15301 5,660]

Just now, Ministry of Pain said:

Is Johnson really a back up? 

Steelers seem like they want to actually try and win this game if nothing more than simple momentum going into next week. 

A Steelers win also impacts matchups.  They would avoid having to face a division rival next week (not saying that’s the best outcome for them).

[MAC_32 12,800]

1 minute ago, JoeSteeler said:

Pretty impressed with Rudolph today

Nah, he's just heaving it to superior wr's against inferior db's. 

[Sea Duck 1,471]

Just now, Dez said:

1 minute ago, Sea Duck said:

Start using your timeouts, Cleveland.

Uh no not yet they still have to make the 2 pointer you don't give them free time in case they miss.

If they make it still have plenty of time to get in FG range.

We know that Pittsburgh is going to score. Only difference is whether they score with 1 minute on the clock or with 3 minutes left on the clock. Cleveland has decided that it's better for them if they only have 1 minute left.

[rockaction 26,167]

Here's the year.