Chadstroma
Footballguy
Can you imagine the damage that could have been done with Rodgers at QB and Fitzgerald and Johnson as his WR's. You could field the rest of the offense with a HS team and still put up 30 a game.
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2021 Las Vegas Raiders - PLAYOFFS!!!! (2 Viewers)
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ICON211
Footballguy
I'm torn on Joyner too. I don't think he has been as bad as he has been made out to be and I think he possibly could be very good in Bradley's defense, but $8.7M savings is a good chunk.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
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DocHolliday
Footballguy
joey
Footballguy
I don’t watch college football at all so don’t know of any of these dues, but I like that all the mocks are going D for the Raiders and most are going LB.
https://raiderswire.usatoday.com/2021/02/17/raiders-2021-nfl-mock-draft-database-40-different-mocks-all-going-defense/
https://raiderswire.usatoday.com/2021/02/17/raiders-2021-nfl-mock-draft-database-40-different-mocks-all-going-defense/
Bet on a reach of some kind. I too, didn't watch much college football this year for obvious reasons. I'm just now learning names like Kwity Paye, Micah Parsons, Azeez Ojulari and Patrick Surtain Jr. Just to name a few. But who the heck knows what Mayock and Gruden will do. My best guess is it'll be a prospect from a big time program like Clemson, Bama or Ohio state. That seems to be one of Mayock's tendencies I've picked up on.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Obviously, the D needs a lot of help and I would start at the front and work back. Unfortunately, from what I understand, this draft is not real strong with D line talent. There are a few linebackers that should fall in our laps. The Raiders will probably reach again for the D line player instead of simply taking the BPA.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Raiders re-sign defensive end David Irving
The 27 year old closed out last season in Las Vegas
By Bill Williamson
It took a while, but the Las Vegas Raiders announced on Thursday that they have brought back defensive end David Irving for a chance to make the 2021 roster.
Irving finished the 2020 season on the Raiders’ practice squad so he has been eligible to to re-sign with the team since early January. Yet, that doesn’t initially occur. Irving did have a couple of workouts in the NFL — with the Indianapolis Colts and the Detroit Lions — yet neither team signed him.
Instead, the Raiders circled back and have brought back the 6’7, 285-pound defensive end back to the program.
Irving signed with the Raiders during the 2020 season, returning with defensive line coach Rod Marinelli, who he was coached by with Dallas Cowboys. Irving, who dealt with NFL suspensions, didn’t play for two years between his Dallas and Las Vegas stints.
The 27 year old played in just two games with the Raiders last season, and also spent some time on the NFL’s reserve/COVID-19 list.
Perhaps with a full training camp, Irving can show the Raiders enough for them to put him on the 53-man roster in an attempt to boost the team’s pass-rush.
The 27 year old closed out last season in Las Vegas
By Bill Williamson
It took a while, but the Las Vegas Raiders announced on Thursday that they have brought back defensive end David Irving for a chance to make the 2021 roster.
Irving finished the 2020 season on the Raiders’ practice squad so he has been eligible to to re-sign with the team since early January. Yet, that doesn’t initially occur. Irving did have a couple of workouts in the NFL — with the Indianapolis Colts and the Detroit Lions — yet neither team signed him.
Instead, the Raiders circled back and have brought back the 6’7, 285-pound defensive end back to the program.
Irving signed with the Raiders during the 2020 season, returning with defensive line coach Rod Marinelli, who he was coached by with Dallas Cowboys. Irving, who dealt with NFL suspensions, didn’t play for two years between his Dallas and Las Vegas stints.
The 27 year old played in just two games with the Raiders last season, and also spent some time on the NFL’s reserve/COVID-19 list.
Perhaps with a full training camp, Irving can show the Raiders enough for them to put him on the 53-man roster in an attempt to boost the team’s pass-rush.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Carson Wentz trade: Colts first inquired about trading for Derek Carr but were turned down, per report
Carr is staying in Las Vegas, at least for the time being
By Bryan DeArdo
Carson Wentz is heading to Indianapolis, but only after the Colts had already inquired about Raiders quarterback Derek Carr. The Colts were among the teams that had contacted the Raiders about Carr's availability, according to Jim Ayello of the Indianapolis Star. After reportedly being told that Carr was not available, the Colts executed a deal that brought Wentz to Indianapolis in exchange for a 2021 third-round pick and a 2022 conditional second-round pick.
While the Colts ended up with Wentz, the Raiders continue to stick with Carr, who has two seasons left on his five-year, $125 million extension. The soon-to-be 30-year-old Carr is coming off of a 2020 season that saw him complete 67.3% of his throws for 4,103 yards with 27 touchdowns and nine interceptions. Carr's play helped Las Vegas jump out to a 6-3 start before faltering to a 2-5 finish.
A 2014 second-round pick, Carr is 47-63 as the Raiders' starting quarterback. He earned three consecutive Pro Bowl selections from 2015-17, and was in the MVP conversation before suffering a season-ending injury 15 games into the 2016 season. Carr went 12-3 as a starter that season while leading the Raiders to the franchise's first playoff appearance since 2002.
After an underwhelming 2017 season, Carr has enjoyed considerable success under Jon Gruden. In their first season working together, Carr completed nearly 69% of his passes while eclipsing the 4,000-yard barrier for the first time. In 2019, Carr topped the 70% completion mark while throwing 21 touchdowns and just eight interceptions. Last season, Carr again threw for over 4,000 yards while tossing 27 touchdowns against just nine interceptions. Carr's favorite target has been tight end Darren Waller, who last season caught 107 passes for 1,196 yards and nine touchdowns. Carr has also been complemented by running back Josh Jacobs, who was selected to his first Pro Bowl in 2020.
While Carr will return for his eighth season with the Raiders, the Colts will have a new starting quarterback for a third consecutive season. In Wentz, the Colts are getting a 6-foot-5, 237-pound quarterback with 68 regular-season starts under his belt. Like Carr, Wentz was also on the precipice of winning league MVP before an injury prematurely ended his 2017 season. Wentz endured another injury-marred season in 2018 before becoming the first Eagles' quarterback to throw for 4,000 yards in 2019. He led the Eagles to the playoffs that season before suffering another injury during Philadelphia's wild-card loss to the Seahawks.
Wentz will be reunited in Indianapolis with coach Frank Reich, who served as Wentz's first offensive coordinator in Philadelphia. The duo will now try to help the Colts move beyond the wild-card round for the first time since 2018.
Carr is staying in Las Vegas, at least for the time being
By Bryan DeArdo
Carson Wentz is heading to Indianapolis, but only after the Colts had already inquired about Raiders quarterback Derek Carr. The Colts were among the teams that had contacted the Raiders about Carr's availability, according to Jim Ayello of the Indianapolis Star. After reportedly being told that Carr was not available, the Colts executed a deal that brought Wentz to Indianapolis in exchange for a 2021 third-round pick and a 2022 conditional second-round pick.
While the Colts ended up with Wentz, the Raiders continue to stick with Carr, who has two seasons left on his five-year, $125 million extension. The soon-to-be 30-year-old Carr is coming off of a 2020 season that saw him complete 67.3% of his throws for 4,103 yards with 27 touchdowns and nine interceptions. Carr's play helped Las Vegas jump out to a 6-3 start before faltering to a 2-5 finish.
A 2014 second-round pick, Carr is 47-63 as the Raiders' starting quarterback. He earned three consecutive Pro Bowl selections from 2015-17, and was in the MVP conversation before suffering a season-ending injury 15 games into the 2016 season. Carr went 12-3 as a starter that season while leading the Raiders to the franchise's first playoff appearance since 2002.
After an underwhelming 2017 season, Carr has enjoyed considerable success under Jon Gruden. In their first season working together, Carr completed nearly 69% of his passes while eclipsing the 4,000-yard barrier for the first time. In 2019, Carr topped the 70% completion mark while throwing 21 touchdowns and just eight interceptions. Last season, Carr again threw for over 4,000 yards while tossing 27 touchdowns against just nine interceptions. Carr's favorite target has been tight end Darren Waller, who last season caught 107 passes for 1,196 yards and nine touchdowns. Carr has also been complemented by running back Josh Jacobs, who was selected to his first Pro Bowl in 2020.
While Carr will return for his eighth season with the Raiders, the Colts will have a new starting quarterback for a third consecutive season. In Wentz, the Colts are getting a 6-foot-5, 237-pound quarterback with 68 regular-season starts under his belt. Like Carr, Wentz was also on the precipice of winning league MVP before an injury prematurely ended his 2017 season. Wentz endured another injury-marred season in 2018 before becoming the first Eagles' quarterback to throw for 4,000 yards in 2019. He led the Eagles to the playoffs that season before suffering another injury during Philadelphia's wild-card loss to the Seahawks.
Wentz will be reunited in Indianapolis with coach Frank Reich, who served as Wentz's first offensive coordinator in Philadelphia. The duo will now try to help the Colts move beyond the wild-card round for the first time since 2018.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I think that the Colts trade for Wentz increases the value of Mariota on the trade market. Sure, it takes a possible suitor off the menu but I never saw the Colts really wanting Mariota though Wentz, in my view, is not measurably better than Mariota, the Reich connection makes sense that they wanted to get him believing Reich can return him to a good starter versus the trash we have seen of late.
A 3rd and a 2nd that can turn into a 1st helps increase the asking price for Mariota.
And can the freaking media get off of the whole Carr being traded crap? He isn't going anywhere short of an insane trade that brought in someone better like a Wilson or Watson and the chances of that really happening is less than a percent. It is just football talking heads having not much to talk about until we get closer to the draft.
A 3rd and a 2nd that can turn into a 1st helps increase the asking price for Mariota.
And can the freaking media get off of the whole Carr being traded crap? He isn't going anywhere short of an insane trade that brought in someone better like a Wilson or Watson and the chances of that really happening is less than a percent. It is just football talking heads having not much to talk about until we get closer to the draft.
massraider
Footballguy
Watching the Raiders this year, I dunno why anyone would think Carr was the problem.
The Raiders couldn't stop anyone all year long. Now, Carr might not put the team on his back, and win games outright, but when your defense is playing like that, and your front office is drafting like that, then cutting draft picks, and the coach is wasting YEARS with defensive coaches without an innovative thought in their heads, I have no issues with Carr.
I'm as sick and tired of this team and their race to 8-8 as I have been of any Raider team. As sick as I am of seeing Raider castoffs contributing on playoff teams.
I'm bored with the lack of over-achieving, the close games with garbage teams, the jumping out to big leads, and inevitable inability to keep people from coming back from 17 down.
There is talent on the team, I'm not seeing any coaching that is getting the best out of anyone.
The Raiders couldn't stop anyone all year long. Now, Carr might not put the team on his back, and win games outright, but when your defense is playing like that, and your front office is drafting like that, then cutting draft picks, and the coach is wasting YEARS with defensive coaches without an innovative thought in their heads, I have no issues with Carr.
I'm as sick and tired of this team and their race to 8-8 as I have been of any Raider team. As sick as I am of seeing Raider castoffs contributing on playoff teams.
I'm bored with the lack of over-achieving, the close games with garbage teams, the jumping out to big leads, and inevitable inability to keep people from coming back from 17 down.
There is talent on the team, I'm not seeing any coaching that is getting the best out of anyone.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
The only reason that I was for the Raiders trading away Carr was to obtain two first round picks to fill some of the many holes on D. Carr is not the problem but the Raiders need some way to obtain draft capital. Sticking with Carr and watching a horrible D lose games isn’t the answer. I would rather swing for the fences with Mariota and two more first round talents.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
i was listening to vinny bongsignore yesterday. and unfortunately, what he said, made a lot of sense, regarding mariota.
the raiders will be lucky to get anything for him. why? because the raiders are over the cap, and will have to create cap space somehow. one of the most obvious ways to do that, is to cut mariota. 10.7M in his opinion, teams will just wait for the inevitable, mariota being released. so unless the raiders start making other moves and possibly restructuring some deals, offers for mariota will most likely be pretty slim.
the raiders will be lucky to get anything for him. why? because the raiders are over the cap, and will have to create cap space somehow. one of the most obvious ways to do that, is to cut mariota. 10.7M in his opinion, teams will just wait for the inevitable, mariota being released. so unless the raiders start making other moves and possibly restructuring some deals, offers for mariota will most likely be pretty slim.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Meh.... maybe but maybe not. We will really know that answer come March 17th.i was listening to vinny bongsignore yesterday. and unfortunately, what he said, made a lot of sense, regarding mariota.
the raiders will be lucky to get anything for him. why? because the raiders are over the cap, and will have to create cap space somehow. one of the most obvious ways to do that, is to cut mariota. 10.7M in his opinion, teams will just wait for the inevitable, mariota being released. so unless the raiders start making other moves and possibly restructuring some deals, offers for mariota will most likely be pretty slim.
But it is easy to fix to that. Cut Williams. Extend Carr. Cut or restructure Brown and then you are well under not to mention other moves.
Also, this QB carousel is more like musical chairs. There are more teams than there are QB's or at least QB's that you feel you can win with unless teams want some of the QB's available in FA as their starter. Otherwise, they are going to be incented to make a move.
You all know that I have never seen Mariota as a threat to Carr but he has a wealth of starter experience though he didn't light the league on fire he had moments. His relief time with the Raiders showed a lot that I think would get teams juices going versus a Fitzmagic/Fitztragic or who else? Brissett, Trubiksy, Dalton? All are clearly backups. Winston? Does a HC/OC think they can fix the INT's? Newton is the only one that I would say would be worth a shot at starter (I don't believe the Patriots put him in a position to be successful). Other than that, Mariota looks like a very good option. Now that Wentz is traded.. who else is there that is realistically on the trade block that has value?
DocHolliday
Footballguy
To speed up the Mariota trade process, Gruden should make the cuts that are inevitable. Another poster listed two obvious cuts and two probable cuts. They are all must cuts to me. Cut Williams, Joyner, Richard, and Incognito. That’s the first wave. There are other possible cuts or salary restructures that should follow. This team needs cap space to fill holes on D.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
all good points. but why would you pay for something, that you can get for free? brown aint restructuring. carr is so cheap now, why would they extend him? especially since gruden knows he has the replacement on the roster already. peterman.
washington desperately needs a qb. they've hired 3 former GMs. i don't see them over paying for mariota. the raiders are 19M over the cap. they still need to sign the incoming rookie class and any FA's. they need a lot of room. i'd wait them out, if i wanted mariota.
i hope i'm wrong
kaso
Footballguy
I think Vinny has a point if the situation is looked at in a bubble. But all front offices know that teams will find a way to work the numbers and get under the cap for the start of the season. Marcus isn't a guaranteed cut by the Raiders because he is a QB under Gruden (ha!), but jokes aside the Raiders have leverage over Marcus to renegotiate his deal or cut him at no cost. $0.00 in dead money (traded or cut) in 2021 is only to the benefit of the Raiders right now. And a $10M cap hit for a QB for 2021 isn't enough to scare away a potential suiter IMO.i was listening to vinny bongsignore yesterday. and unfortunately, what he said, made a lot of sense, regarding mariota.
the raiders will be lucky to get anything for him. why? because the raiders are over the cap, and will have to create cap space somehow. one of the most obvious ways to do that, is to cut mariota. 10.7M in his opinion, teams will just wait for the inevitable, mariota being released. so unless the raiders start making other moves and possibly restructuring some deals, offers for mariota will most likely be pretty slim.
As it stands, Marcus' 2021 hit will be the 19th largest at the QB position across all teams in the NFL. Just below Brees and just above Mayfield. And isn't the highest none starter (Taysom Hill is at $16M, Alex Smith is at $24.4M).
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Then cut Brown. The money can be spent elsewhere. Injuries suck but what concerns me more is the weight gain and he didn't dominate when on the field (as rarely as it was) likely due to the weight. That weight seems to me to echo the rumors of not being all in and/or locker room negative. Gruden would have a better idea of that.all good points. but why would you pay for something, that you can get for free? brown aint restructuring. carr is so cheap now, why would they extend him? especially since gruden knows he has the replacement on the roster already. peterman.
washington desperately needs a qb. they've hired 3 former GMs. i don't see them over paying for mariota. the raiders are 19M over the cap. they still need to sign the incoming rookie class and any FA's. they need a lot of room. i'd wait them out, if i wanted mariota.
i hope i'm wrong
Why extend Carr? You can make him cheaper in the contract now and lock him up longer where that will just get more expensive the longer you wait.
Washington doesn't have a lot of options and will need to fight with the 5 or so other teams desperate for a QB upgrade.
Who wants to be standing when all the chairs are taken?
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Mariota contract is more like $20 million if he was a season starter with all the incentives
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
i've been saying to cut brown for months.Chadstroma said:
not extending carr was a joke. but he's cheap at 22.1M he might restructure, extend, but i don't think the team wants to extend him at this point.
who are your 5 teams, that are desperate at qb? after washington, who needs a qb the most?
jax? they will take one in the draft and roll with uncle rico, until whoever they take is ready.
NE? definitely needs one. but the hoody aint getting played
nyj? i don't think they pull the plug on darnold yet. and if they do, they can draft one.
chi? very possible. but they look like idiots, for the foles trade
cutting brown, williams, incognito and richard gives then 20.8M in cap room. with no rookies or FA signings. those moves also leave a huge hole in the OL. (pun intended)
mariota has got to come off the books, one way or another. hate to say it, but i agree with bongsignore
kaso
Footballguy
I would add the following teams to be in the QB market, whether or not they'd have interest in Mariota is a different conversation:
San Fran
Pittsburgh
Houston (whether the Front Office wants to believe it or not)
Denver
Philly (Trading Wentz isn't a guaranteed measurement of their belief in Jalen)
Carolina (maybe)
Atlanta
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
all valid.
i think sf still tries to make jimmy g work
big ben is on the way out for sure
watson will be staying
denver will not trade with the raiders
philly is an interesting possibility.
carolina...interesting. and the new owner is a daniel snyder type.
atlanta has ryan and old man schaub. lotta draftniks have them taking a qb in the draft.
Ed Wood
Footballguy
Well, I hope that settles that. If you can get two more years of play from him like last year, I'm fully on board. I didn't think he had a year like 2020 in him anymore. And while I still don't think he can take a team all the way, he proved me wrong once so hopefully he proves me wrong again.Chadstroma said:
I'm all for cutting Brown unfortunate as it would be. He's only been on the field for 16 of 32 games. That's all you need to know.
But on the flip side, I'd like to keep Williams who's only been on the field for 14 of 32
if they can agree on a reasonable deal. If not, he can go too. Williams and Agholor would make a decent tandem with Renfrow in the slot. Then they can work Ruggs in since he seems nowhere near ready for a full-time job and until the game slows down for Edwards.And yep Joyner (talent), Incognito (age and alternatives available) and Richards (don't need him) can go. And drop the TEs down from eight to two.
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Chadstroma
Footballguy
Tre Boston might be sn interesting FA addition for starting FS. Played for Bradley in 2017 all 16 games started 15. 79 combined tackles, 56 solo, 23 assists, 1 tackle for loss. 5 INT's and 8 PD's. Had a decent season last year. Could come cheap. Plays that midfield FS in the base cover 3.
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Footballguy
Ed Wood
Footballguy
Yikes, I've lost track over the years of how plugged in Peter King is but if he's even in the ballpark with these Watson trades, my "offer" of Carr, Waller and 2 1s is cheap by comparison. I love Watson but nobody nobody is worth this much (not even Mahomes).
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/22/deshaun-watson-trade-texans-nfl-fmia-peter-king/
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/22/deshaun-watson-trade-texans-nfl-fmia-peter-king/
Chadstroma
Footballguy
geez.... those are crazy in my view. You gut your team to get one player.... he isn't going to win everything for you- he hasn't with the Texans. Even freaking Brady needs to overload his teams with talent to win.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I think that gets us about even with cap now in most projections. So.... no spending just yet.
joey
Footballguy
DA RAIDERS
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joey
Footballguy
Cut Carr. I hear that guy's the main problem with this team.
ok, I’ll see myself out. Try the veal...
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Footballguy
Mariota now has the 3rd highest base salary on the team.
Carr
brown
mariota
joyner (his signing bonus, puts him just above mariota)
Carr
brown
mariota
joyner (his signing bonus, puts him just above mariota)
DocHolliday
Footballguy
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Read the Kevin patra article on nfl.com. Not good news about getting anything for mariota.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
It is being reported that the Raiders are one of the few teams Wilson would be willing to be traded to. But what would it take to make that trade happen? Too costly? Likely.
joey
Footballguy
I don’t know. This feels like all the other "a QB is available? Let’s put the Raiders on the list of possible interested teams".
It plays right into the constant drum beat of "everyone says Carr is Gruden's guy and he's playing really well but....is he really?"
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Ed Wood
Footballguy
I don’t agree with cutting Williams but I understand it. Shows they have faith in the guys who saw the field last year. Makes signing Agholor or somebody of his ilk a priority though IMO.
Now, for the same reason, cut Brown. Have faith in the guys who saw the field last year.
I still don’t think they should cut Mariota. Everybody is talking about the cost. Carr and Mariota COMBINED cost less than Mahomes and Watson and they're within $3 million of five other guys (Wilson, Roethlisberger, Goff, Rodgers and Cousins).
You don’t cut him for that reason alone.
And you don’t cut him or trade him at all if all you have is is Nathan Peterman as a back up. In fact, you surround him with plexiglass to prevent injury.
If they do cut/trade Mariota and Peterman is then the No. 2 guy, we’re all chipping in for a plane ticket and we’re sending Chad to Vegas so he can be the back-up quarterback. He’ll be an upgrade for sure.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I don't think so... I have seen reports supposedly from his agent that listed a few teams such as the Cowboys, Bears, Saints and us and then another report from someone in Wilson's camp (whatever that means) that listed a few teams and the Raiders were again mentioned. I am not sure why the Bears but apparently his big gripe is getting hit. Not surprising that the Cowboys and the Raiders who have some of the better OL's are on that list. The Saint's aren't bad either. Not sure why the Bears though.
I mean, you know I love Carr. I would venture a guess I have been the biggest advocate and supporter on this board regardless of how many of you foo's ganged up against me. Carr IS a top 10 QB. But Wilson is a top 5 QB (heck, early last year he was THE best QB in the league) in my view. If you can make that trade without the cost being detrimental to your team... you do it. I don't think that the cost would make sense to us though. I have seen it thrown out Carr and two 1's. NO THANK YOU. Keep Carr and fix the D.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Chadstroma
Footballguy
It would be hard to keep Williams. I really like him and I think he can do very well if healthy but after two years of not being on the field and that price tag for a guy who isn't "transformational" it is hard to keep him. Like I was saying before was that he was a GREAT #2 guy but a questionable #1 and after AB had his mental break down that was what as asked of him before he got hurt and when he came back he didn't seem the same and we didn't have him at all last year. I do think that they believe in Ruggs/Edwards making significant strides for next year but maybe that is because I believe it?
I am mostly with you on Brown but it is a swing thing for me and that swing all goes to does the team believe he is really into playing football and for the Raiders or isn't he? If he is, I want to figure out a way to keep him on because when playing, he is dominant on that right side and it a difference maker. But if he has no passion and balloons in size and will sit out because he doesn't feel good... forget it. Cut him and use that money elsewhere.
For Mariota.... play chicken with the teams that need a QB. Hell, see if he would take an extension and restructure (being trade friendly) if not for anything else than for the future to tell teams we will figure out a way to keep good players and if you want them, trade with us. No getting them out of FA for nothing.
I am ready coach! Put me in! I was getting some reps in before it got too cold with my 7 year old running go and out routes, as soon as the snow melts we will get some more in! I will be all good until that first hit takes out my brittle left knee and will need a plane ticket back home from you guys.
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Ed Wood
Footballguy
Totally agree. Teams with perceived or real QB needs like NE and Wash hold more cards now because Week 1 is so far away and the draft is ahead. As that time grinds down, the pressure heats up. Then would probably be the ultimate time to deal Mariota if they're gonna do it.Chadstroma said:
The Raiders stance is or at least should be, hey, this was the No. 2 pick in the draft just six years ago. The other teams' stance is, hey, you got him for nothing. To which the Raiders should reply, pretty smart, huh, and then issue a middle finger salute.
And if Mariota agrees to a restructure (has this even been talked about?) even better. You'd think he'd be open to that if he's looking for a full-time gig.
Finally, I've had some time lately to dig into this year's draft class. Now, I don't proclaim to be a draft expert by any means, this is just for fun. Most of my information gathering comes from watching YouTube highlights and reading "experts" mock drafts. And most importantly, following Gruden and Mayock's every move in the offseason the past couple years. I really try to examine the team's needs and the reasons behind the picks. I had a gut feeling about Ruggs being the pick last year so I'm going to try my luck again this year.
DISCLAIMER- This is before free agency begins so my 1st round pick is based on the hopes the Raiders are big players in free agency on the defensive side of the ball. My thoughts are the defense is so young already, with lots of draft capital investments, Mayock and Gruden are going to want to get some vets who can come in right away and make an impact. Players like Ingram and Hooker come to mind. I know Bradley wants a pass rusher and Ingram makes sense. And from what I'm reading, I don't see any elite pass rushers in this year's draft.
Which leads me to my (probably) unpopular 1st round pick. Remember the Lynn Bowden fiasco? How can we forget right? Well Gruden still wants his Swiss army knife. And he's going to flex on Mayock and make an executive decision and draft KADARIUS TONEY.
I know, I know! They need defense help in the worst way. Everyone knows it. But Gruden and Mayock have proven they don't care what everyone else thinks. They have the players they like and they're going to stay put and draft them.
Before bashing this pick, watch some Toney highlights and envision him in a Raider uniform. Especially if they have to let Jalen Richard go. Toney will also fill those PR duties. Just sayin', this is the Raiders. You all know expect the unexpected. You heard it here first.
DISCLAIMER- This is before free agency begins so my 1st round pick is based on the hopes the Raiders are big players in free agency on the defensive side of the ball. My thoughts are the defense is so young already, with lots of draft capital investments, Mayock and Gruden are going to want to get some vets who can come in right away and make an impact. Players like Ingram and Hooker come to mind. I know Bradley wants a pass rusher and Ingram makes sense. And from what I'm reading, I don't see any elite pass rushers in this year's draft.
Which leads me to my (probably) unpopular 1st round pick. Remember the Lynn Bowden fiasco? How can we forget right? Well Gruden still wants his Swiss army knife. And he's going to flex on Mayock and make an executive decision and draft KADARIUS TONEY.
I know, I know! They need defense help in the worst way. Everyone knows it. But Gruden and Mayock have proven they don't care what everyone else thinks. They have the players they like and they're going to stay put and draft them.
Before bashing this pick, watch some Toney highlights and envision him in a Raider uniform. Especially if they have to let Jalen Richard go. Toney will also fill those PR duties. Just sayin', this is the Raiders. You all know expect the unexpected. You heard it here first.
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DocHolliday
Footballguy
That would be a horrible pick.
I don't disagree. But its Grudens world and it would not surprise one bit. Ideally I like an athletic LB like Owusu-Kamorah or Zaven Coliins. Parsons, Barmore and Paye will probably be gone by pick #17
As an outside observer I would think defensive picks would help Raiders more, so this I can agree with more so than Toney. If you could get something in trade for Mariotta, that would be great. Building that defense is what is needed, IMO.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Owusu-Kamorah makes a lot of sense because he is that tweener you need in that D's LEO position.
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