DJackson10
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Dude is gonna be overrdrafted. I feel bad for the kid. Should've changed positions. Seems athletic enough to maybe be a WR/TE perhaps but he's no QBFields is not an nfl qb
Dude is gonna be overrdrafted. I feel bad for the kid. Should've changed positions. Seems athletic enough to maybe be a WR/TE perhaps but he's no QBFields is not an nfl qb
I liked how Dan Orlovsky went about talking QBs about a month ago. I think he was doing the Florida game vs LSU or maybe another SEC Game (Been an SEC Network Color guy this year). He said something to the degree about NFL Teams and scouts are scouting the position all wrong when asked why so many high picks at QB fail. He mentioned how we put too much into athletic ability and ability overall but not enough whats between their ears and other things. Like Football IQ, are they mentally capable being an NFL QB and other things. I forget most of the details but specifically mentioned we need to evaluate QBs and put more importance on what goes on in there brain, decision making, how to read defenses and adjust, leading a team etc and stop letting the athletic ability be the end all be all in determining where a QB is picked.So 10+ teams who would take him if he was available in round 1 are lead by incompetent idiots who evaluate QB's worse than you do? Ok.
McDaniels as an OC is great. As a coach he's a train wreck. I think Josh Knows he's an OC and nothing more and likes having his job in NE.I agree but I’m sure when he last spoke with Doug he anticipated Doug’s reaction today and had things lined up. He even said he’s always looking just in case things happen like they did when Josh McDaniels backed out of the Indy job and they took Reich
McDaniels is another one that is getting zero recognition right now too. I wonder if he’d be an option.
Smith is playing himself up the draft board. The two teams I'd worry about are ATL (Julio is slowing down) and MIA (Tua factor) are worrisome.Smith’s number is 6. It’s a sign
I mentioned Bobby Hoying a few weeks ago, he might be the last OSU QB to have a good game in the NFL.4 rounds too early for a project QB who's most likely an NFL back up. Fields based on play warrants a top 5 selection but I wouldn't touch a OSU QB with a 100 foot pole.
Well my man, I've seen a lot of your posts and being on the other side of the argument isn't too upsetting.I don't really agree with a single thing in here.
Yes they fired a coach that won a super bowl with Foles, but he needed to be fired... have you been following any of this mess? Doug was a bad OC.
Andy was in no way "ran out of town". Anyone with knowledge on the situation knows it was just time. Awful year, Andy was stale, we needed a change, Andy needed a change. No chance we win a SB under Andy.... it was probably the best mutual split of a coach/team in NFL history.
Long rebuilds don't happen in the NFL usually. I agree it will be a 'long rebuild' but that is relative and usually means like 2-3 years in today's NFL. If Carson gets back to form, we can be okay.
Your avatar unfortunately doesn't seem accurate.
ummm... ok?Well my man, I've seen a lot of your posts and being on the other side of the argument isn't too upsetting.
It's a mess. Wentz will be a huge headache. The contract, crappy attitude, poor play and being the owner's buddy is going to scare any good coach away from the eagles. It's going to take a while to fix all those problems. But take comfort in my avatar, nice low hanging fruit for the kind of person that needs it.
I agree. I worry about my co workers son position but overall what he has going for him is people in the Org like him and from talking to players he's coached he's really liked and well respected. With Lurie and the Eagles history wanting to keep certain coaches over the yrs I hope he's retained. It's not a biased thing either. It'd do wonders for his mother as she lost her oldest son the year we went to the SB too soon. The one who works for the team also just got married over the Summer too. Really awesome kid and a Philly guy too. With everything he did making up for the slackers on the coaching staff he at least deserves a chance or consideration of staying. Duce really loves him tooI will say this. At least we didn't hang on to a guy just because he won the SB. If they lost confidence in him, then just end it. Don't want to have a Billick or Mccarthy situation where guys won it early and then hung around for 7-8 years after just kind of existing.
Yep. I'm not biased here either. I like Trask as a QB as an NFL QB from UF I don't know. I think success wise maybe he's an Alex Smith just good enough but needs guys to carry him your Tier 3 QB. Or he's a really great Back upI mentioned Bobby Hoying a few weeks ago, he might be the last OSU QB to have a good game in the NFL.
You clearly have no idea on whats going on here. I think you are just trolling for attention. Are you one of those alternate accounts of one of the trolls who normally trolls in here or something?Well my man, I've seen a lot of your posts and being on the other side of the argument isn't too upsetting.
It's a mess. Wentz will be a huge headache. The contract, crappy attitude, poor play and being the owner's buddy is going to scare any good coach away from the eagles. It's going to take a while to fix all those problems. But take comfort in my avatar, nice low hanging fruit for the kind of person that needs it, that was kind of the point of it in the first place.
Its possible that concussion did more then we think.He kept going in what sense? On the field? Agree. He collapsed as a franchise QB. I’ll counter your assertion with 3 major injuries as a pro lead to his mental frailty. OL fell apart and he did as well.
Man, he might go top 3 now..Anyone else want devonta smith? Like really badly
To go more into this over the last 2 hrs I was talking to someone close to the situation. They said Roseman wanted to Drafted Jefferson but Doug and Staff wanted Reagor (as we know already). Roseman went with Reagor hoping to help solve issues with him and Doug and smooth over relations. Roseman also didn't like Doug's use of Veterans who were not performing over younger talent who should be given a chance. He was really miffed how Jeffrey had more playing time over Fulgham. Lurie saw that Roseman had been doing more to help solve the issues with Pederson but Pederson was not as accepting. Doug and Lurie still have tremendous respect for one another but it was mutually agreed that it was better to part ways not just for both in terms of business but as friends as well at this point. Doug has no ill will towards the Eagles. He's just beyond frustrated he was not allowed more power. He didn't expect the Andy Reid Power but wanted more say in drafts and player personel decisions along with coaching staff.Rob Manddi with his write up. This is important when it comes to Carson.
I was told Doug Pederson and Howie Roseman weren’t on the same page regarding many personal moves and also Carson Wentz had “no input” into Pederson’s firing. Full story
“Carson and Doug got along way better than people think,” a teammate told the AP on Monday. “That stuff got exaggerated.”
Roseman and Pederson didn't see eye to eye. Lurie picked Roseman over Doug
I heard it was bad enough they took his wife from the suite the players families have. They only do that in severe situations. They removed her immediately to go be with her husband shortly after taking him off the field. I was told the Concussion was so bad they had no idea had they pulled it off again and gotten to the SB if Carson would've been ready in time. Thats how bad he got hit. It's also why I keep bringing up how Clowney's hit was such a cheap shot and the NFL didn't do a dam about it. Just shows how hypocritical the league is on "safety of players". All CYA to protect themselves from lawsuits.Its possible that concussion did more then we think.
Doesn't matter to me if we draft Smith or Not. Just draft all SEC players and I'll be coolMan, he might go top 3 now..
But yea. I mean I wont be disappointed at with Chase either, but dude can play.
There's just so much we dont know about concussions. What if that meant his brain just takes a *little* longer now to process info. At QB - that could mean the difference between 4 and 20 picks. At DE probably not so much.I heard it was bad enough they took his wife from the suite the players families have. They only do that in severe situations. They removed her immediately to go be with her husband shortly after taking him off the field. I was told the Concussion was so bad they had no idea had they pulled it off again and gotten to the SB if Carson would've been ready in time. Thats how bad he got hit. It's also why I keep bringing up how Clowney's hit was such a cheap shot and the NFL didn't do a dam about it. Just shows how hypocritical the league is on "safety of players". All CYA to protect themselves from lawsuits.
I honestly wouldn't mind Duce getting the job. Never gonna happen but the guy has earned a chance. He never even gets a shot as an interim coach.I agree. I worry about my co workers son position but overall what he has going for him is people in the Org like him and from talking to players he's coached he's really liked and well respected. With Lurie and the Eagles history wanting to keep certain coaches over the yrs I hope he's retained. It's not a biased thing either. It'd do wonders for his mother as she lost her oldest son the year we went to the SB too soon. The one who works for the team also just got married over the Summer too. Really awesome kid and a Philly guy too. With everything he did making up for the slackers on the coaching staff he at least deserves a chance or consideration of staying. Duce really loves him too
I agree it was pretty bad and why the team was livid about the no call do to how bad the injury was. Thankfully we are more carefully with these injuries but at the same time aren't still well versed on the serious brain damage shortly after the concussionThere's just so much we dont know about concussions. What if that meant his brain just takes a *little* longer now to process info. At QB - that could mean the difference between 4 and 20 picks. At DE probably not so much.
Is it bad form to try and guess who this is?I agree. I worry about my co workers son position but overall what he has going for him is people in the Org like him and from talking to players he's coached he's really liked and well respected. With Lurie and the Eagles history wanting to keep certain coaches over the yrs I hope he's retained. It's not a biased thing either. It'd do wonders for his mother as she lost her oldest son the year we went to the SB too soon. The one who works for the team also just got married over the Summer too. Really awesome kid and a Philly guy too. With everything he did making up for the slackers on the coaching staff he at least deserves a chance or consideration of staying. Duce really loves him too
Harris looks like a nice Powerback we could use with some Receiving abilities. Depending on next HC and OC I would love to have him tooBama is just a literal WR factory. Among other positions but especially WR.
Ash if you want to you can DM me if you know who it is and I'll tell you if you are right. But I would say most people usually don't try and guess and if they believe they know who it is they keep it to themselves usually.Is it bad form to try and guess who this is?
You just don't stay up late enough to watch the PAC12 guys. Gotta grind man.Bama is just a literal WR factory. Among other positions but especially WR.
Its possible that concussion did more then we think.
The concussion was not serious at all and he cleared all protocols by that Wednesday and 100% would have played the following week.I heard it was bad enough they took his wife from the suite the players families have. They only do that in severe situations. They removed her immediately to go be with her husband shortly after taking him off the field. I was told the Concussion was so bad they had no idea had they pulled it off again and gotten to the SB if Carson would've been ready in time. Thats how bad he got hit. It's also why I keep bringing up how Clowney's hit was such a cheap shot and the NFL didn't do a dam about it. Just shows how hypocritical the league is on "safety of players". All CYA to protect themselves from lawsuits.
Henry, Drake, Yeldon and Kamara aren’t bad either and Davis looks legit as wellBama is just a literal WR factory. Among other positions but especially WR.
Has been for 10 plus yearsBama is just a literal WR factory. Among other positions but especially WR.
Cleared yeah but being cleared doesn't mean a dam thing. Anyone who knows anything about concussions knows a Concussion test can only prove so much. There's so much more we don't know about them and guys should probably be out even longer. I've had friends deal with concussions and despite passing tests a neurologists wouldn't clear them to compete do to still having symptoms. You can still pass tests still feelings systems and a lot of these guys try to lie cheat the test just so they can pass and play.The concussion was not serious at all and he cleared all protocols by that Wednesday and 100% would have played the following week.
I always found this amusing:Then we beat the Patriots in an improbable matter.
Kamara got shook by bama and went to Tennessee but I'm ok if bama claims himHenry, Drake, Yeldon and Kamara aren’t bad either and Davis looks legit as well
His bank account will say otherwise.Dude is gonna be overrdrafted. I feel bad for the kid. Should've changed positions. Seems athletic enough to maybe be a WR/TE perhaps but he's no QB
Sure will but thats the issue with the NFL. They really don't know how to evaluate QBs properly.His bank account will say otherwise.
Bama defense will be better next yearBack to this game if The Tide had any better defense this game would not be anywhere as close as it's been. Bama probably only has given up 10 PTs with a better D.
He was cleared and fine by that Wednesday. I know this with 100% certaintyCleared yeah but being cleared doesn't mean a dam thing. Anyone who knows anything about concussions knows a Concussion test can only prove so much. There's so much more we don't know about them and guys should probably be out even longer. I've had friends deal with concussions and despite passing tests a neurologists wouldn't clear them to compete do to still having symptoms. You can still pass tests still feelings systems and a lot of these guys try to lie cheat the test just so they can pass and play.
You’re right, I forgot about that.Kamara got shook by bama and went to Tennessee but I'm ok if bama claims him
Yeah I was just saying this game shouldn't even be anywhere near as close as it was for awhile. Dabo was right on OSU they aren't a top 3 team but I also didn't think Clemson was either this year.Bama defense will be better next year
I kinda trust lurie hereMaybe this should ease some Howie stuff and maybe the next coach is on the same page or Howie just drafts the guy and the coach has to deal wit it?
Jeff Skversky
1h ·
While Eagles GM Howie Roseman is publicly taking heat for failed draft picks & signings, my understanding is Roseman drafted & made decisions based on Doug Pederson & his staff’s preferences, scheme & fit
In Justin Jefferson’s case #Eagles scouts & Roseman preferred Jefferson
6abc Action News
He clearly was listening to Schwartz for defense picks and it wasn't working or Schwartz wasn't coaching them up.Maybe this should ease some Howie stuff and maybe the next coach is on the same page or Howie just drafts the guy and the coach has to deal wit it?
Jeff Skversky
1h ·
While Eagles GM Howie Roseman is publicly taking heat for failed draft picks & signings, my understanding is Roseman drafted & made decisions based on Doug Pederson & his staff’s preferences, scheme & fit
In Justin Jefferson’s case #Eagles scouts & Roseman preferred Jefferson
6abc Action News
Yeah Sounds more like Howie was trying to be the good guy here and be the better man and Doug just wouldn't budge. It shows Howie has grown in a way. It'd be nice if we can get a coach who is fundamentally in check with Lurie and Howie's vision and see if it can work. They always seem to Get a guy with their vision but in the end isn't theirs at allI kinda trust lurie here
Well last 1 1/2 yrs I can tell you for sure he was not coaching them up. Dude didn't want to do anything with coaching.He clearly was listening to Schwartz for defense picks and it wasn't working or Schwartz wasn't coaching them up.
Well, I *hope* this is true, but seems very convenient for Howie. He is great at getting the national football media to tell his stories for him.Yeah Sounds more like Howie was trying to be the good guy here and be the better man and Doug just wouldn't budge. It shows Howie has grown in a way. It'd be nice if we can get a coach who is fundamentally in check with Lurie and Howie's vision and see if it can work. They always seem to Get a guy with their vision but in the end isn't theirs at all
I agree with you on that. I just don't know how to view the guy at times. He has his detractors and I sometimes feel it's not as bad as those make him out to be just like Maddi is reporting the Wentz/Pederson fracture wasn't as terrible as some in the media made it.Well, I *hope* this is true, but seems very convenient for Howie. He is great at getting the national football media to tell his stories for him.
This doesn't excuse him IMO. When you're in charge of something, it's part of your job to ignore bad advice.
Fingers crossed I guess.
McDaniels would be great if he came with Tom Brady in his prime. Otherwise not so much.McDaniels as an OC is great. As a coach he's a train wreck. I think Josh Knows he's an OC and nothing more and likes having his job in NE.
Duce deserves the shot. He's been the good soldier for 3 different regimes now. It's a tough hand he's being dealt with this team but he deserves to add Head Coach to his resume.If this happens this would make my Grandma very happy. Duce was always her favorite player and this is a women who Saw Steve Van Buren play and went to games as a season Ticket member with my Pop-Pop since 1961 so she's seen a lot of players.
@RobMaaddi
Rodney McLeod strongly endorses Duce Staley. @MalcolmJenkins did the same from afar today. Both of their opinions hold weight with Jeffrey Lurie. I’m sure the #Eagles will conduct an exhaustive search but it would not surprise me if Duce ends up being the guy to lead a rebuild.