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2021 Philadelphia Eagles - Queued up a playlist of our greatest zits throughout the season for final game (9 Viewers)

I was rooting for the Bills, wtf was with McDermott taking those short field goals?  That was never going to do it, so I’ll be cheering for Andy.

Tyreek Hill cancels out AB for me.  I quite like Bruce Arians, but I can’t support Brady, ever.
I'm all about 2nd chances. What Hill did no excuse for sure but AB has not changed one bit. Minute theres tension in TB he's gonna go off. I never liked Arians. Too much of an old school guy who makes you think of the "get off my lawn" older guy yelling at the young kids. I never liked Brady, a friend of mine is a Tampa fan as well as an Eagles fan (Can't tell you how that happened), yeah I'm friends with Anthony Becth but he was barely on the team that long, and I just can't stand the org for drafting Jamis Winston when everyone and their mother knows FSU covered up that case. Dude should be nowhere near an NFL field right now. Oh yeah and no one went after them like the world was ending for their blatant tank job to draft Winston  :D  

Add in Tom Brady and well definitely not rooting to TB at all. 

I've also never had any issues with the Chiefs. I always liked Andy and happy for him. Just PO'd that I know this was the offense he wanted in PHI for yrs but for whatever reasons never succeeded either through his own mistakes or others. Then you got Kelce ( you cannot root against a Kelce) and they have two former Gators on the team. I wanted a KC/GB SB however. I wouldn't have minded Butf in it and winning but I feel with the pandemic it shouldn't be their year and they deserve to really celebrate that title like We got too in 2017. 

 
Well Andy just won his 2nd straight AFC Conference title and is heading to his 2nd straight SB. I think for most Philly fans picking who to root for in this SB should be Easy. Tom Brady and AB and Tampa Bay a team who won a SB by knocking Andy and us out in 2002 or our old coach in Andy Reid with Mahomes? 


I was rooting for the Bills, wtf was with McDermott taking those short field goals?  That was never going to do it, so I’ll be cheering for Andy.

Tyreek Hill cancels out AB for me.  I quite like Bruce Arians, but I can’t support Brady, ever.
Cheering hard for Tampa.  Don't get me wrong, I was super happy for Andy getting one.  Crucify me all you want, but I have a ton of respect for Tom and want to see him win one outside of NE.

 
I never liked Arians. Too much of an old school guy who makes you think of the "get off my lawn" older guy yelling at the young kids.
I think a lot of people in the NFL give lip service to diversity and inclusion but he walks the walk on that front.  He always seems like he gets as much out of being a mentor as whatever his own achievements might be.

 
Reid is like the slob ex that doesn’t care for herself, then after the breakup she cleans up and becomes a super model. No love for either. 

 
Should be a fun superbowl.   Was also rooting for bills.  That was a crap performance all around.  No defense and no balls on offense.

Allen played scared and was not ready for the big time.

 
From Schefter:

Former Chargers’ OC Shane Steichen is arriving today in Philadelphia, where he is expected to become the Eagles’ new offensive coordinator, per source.

 
New Eagles coach Nick Sirianni’s staff coming together. So far:

OC: Shane Steichen 

Pass game coordinator: Kevin Patullo

OL/run game coordinator: Jeff Stoutland

DC: Jonathan Gannon

DL: Tracy Rocker

 
I think this puts to rest that Nick is a mindless yes man for Howie and Lurie. There's no way they would have picked all these different people. 

 
Insein said:
I think this puts to rest that Nick is a mindless yes man for Howie and Lurie. There's no way they would have picked all these different people. 
Doug Pederson: fired because he wanted to have a staff of "his guys"

Nick Sirianni: hired so he can build a staff of "his guys"

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The problem was the guys Doug wanted. Did we need Press Taylor as OC and other random guys moved up to DC?
Right, which implies Jeff and Howie are still signing-off on these guys. Nick would have come to his interview with names of who he wanted for his staff. 

 
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New Eagles coach Nick Sirianni’s 39 staff coming together. So far:

OC: Shane Steichen 35

Pass game coordinator: Kevin Patullo 39

OL/run game coordinator: Jeff Stoutland 58

DC: Jonathan Gannon 37

DL: Tracy Rocker 54
Avg age of "new" coaching hires so far: 40.8 years old. At least our staff is getting younger, if the roster isn't!

 
Right, which implies Jeff and Howie are still signing-off on these guys. Nick would have come to his interview with names of who he wanted for his staff. 
Howie isn’t in position to nix any suggestion from Sirianni anyway. If he does, the HC they want walks. I think it’s fairly obvious that Sirianni is calling the shots with his staff and multiple reports are saying he’s also the one who will ultimately decide how we move forward with Carson. 

This is essentially the same control they gave to other HC’s. Doug just got promotion crazy here and needed to be stopped 

 
Bigboy10182000 said:
From Schefter:

Former Chargers’ OC Shane Steichen is arriving today in Philadelphia, where he is expected to become the Eagles’ new offensive coordinator, per source.
I like it.  Runs the ball on 1st down a ton, so expect Miles to get going often and early.  Also developed Herbert quite well.

 
Interesting.  Those who wanted him as a HC, there wasn't a single team who even wanted him as an OC.
It’s my personal belief this will be a theme with nearly ever coach under Doug this past season.  Either they won’t have jobs, or will take a lateral move or a demotion. 

I like it.  Runs the ball on 1st down a ton, so expect Miles to get going often and early.  Also developed Herbert quite well.
There’s a lot of focus amongst this group for working with QB’s and WR’s as well. Keeping Stoutland is big for the OL and run game as well. I’m very curious to see how these guys do. 

 
Was reading a thread that I thought was interesting:

Done a bit of digging on Colts O last couple years & this is a completely personal take that could be 100% wrong... but this is not the hire I would expect if you were looking to maximize Jalen Hurts as a QB. This is an offense for a QB with a skillset like Carson Wentz.

In response to this... I saw a lot of Eagles 2017 stuff. Mesh, Flood, Dagger, Hi-Lo stuff. Looks to me like it suits a stronger arm (or elite anticipation like Rivers).

Personally, if I was looking to maximize Hurts, I would be looking for more RPOs, read option, highly schemed passing game. Basically someone who puts the QB running at the front of his style. Little evidence this staff fit this style.

Last point on this (more on @EaglesBrawl soon 😎) the Colts went out & acquired Rivers to start over Brissett. They were happy in 2020 to base an offense entirely around a QB with 0 movement ability.

(I lied here's another bonus point) Jacob Eason was drafted in the 4th by the Colts. 6'6 QB w/ big arm who wins from the pocket... 🤔

 
I just hope there's a little more pressure built into the scheme. 
Inside The Birds: 'You're Gonna See More Blitzes'

Here's a snapshot of what they said:

Duce Staley

Geoff Mosher: "It's pretty clear after you've promoted him to as high as assistant head coach, but then passed on him twice as head coach, it's pretty clear that he's reached his ceilng here. Not his ceiling [overall], but his ceiling here. I know Duce wants to be a head coach. People tell me all the time they believe he will be a good head coach. So, his options now ... are pretty limited. I know there's some talk about Chicago. I know he has a relationship with Matt Nagy, but you can't look at the Chicago situation as being good. I think his best bet may be trying to be a college head coach."

Adam Caplan: "I put myself in his shoes. Look, first time you get passed up and you say, 'OK, I get it, I'll learn from this." But the second time? And just the way it went down you weren't totally satisfied with Josh McDaniels, so you brought Sirianni in and then you Sirianni. One could read into it: how serous of a candidate was [Staley]?"

Shane Steichen

Adam Caplan: "I know Curtis Modkins interviewed [for offensive coordinator]. Steichen did a good job under very difficult circumstances. He got promoted to permanent offensive coordinator last year, did a great job in terms of offensive structure to help out Justin Herbert. I would say if you really study the Chargers' offense it started to struggle a little bit. The way it was explained to me was it started to get stale, it wasn't that good. I know Keenan Allen got hurt late in the season. They had some offensive line issues. Anthony Lynn is a very conservative coach, by nature. That may have had something to do with it. Overall, [Steichen] did a solid job under very difficult circumstances."

Jonathan Gannon

Caplan: "Here's the deal. A very good coaching source said to me Jonathan Gannon is the defensive coordinator candidate like Brandon Staley was for head coach. He was the hottest young candidate to be defensive coordinator. If he does a good job here he's going to be a head coach somewhere in the three years. In fact, two years. I got it from one guy who said to me, 'I'm telling ya, this guy is special. Philly is gonna love him.' He's going to run a 43 front. He's got some Mike Zimmer stuff in him, some [Matt] Eberflus. We're gonna see some Cover 2. Obviously, double-A Gap blitzes. He's got a lot of influences here. You're gonna see more blitzes, I promise."

 Mosher: "A person me that he's aware that Jeffrey Luie knew about who Gannon was and wanted Gannon here. So I'll just start connecting dots. If that was a guy Sirianni talked about in the interview as someone he wanted to bring in as defensive coordinator, that prob helped his cause."

Other coaches

Caplan: "Looks like [Jeff Stoutland] is coming back. A couple of coaching sources told me this is happening. This is a heck of a get for [Sirianni]."
 
 Mosher: "Guys need to know what their futures are going to be. There are some coaches who, as of Sunday night, had not yet talked to [Sirianni] who are on the staff. They want to know. He's got to kind of speed this process up a little bit."
 
 Caplan: "[Kevin Patullo] worked with quarterbacks before with the Jets. He was actually receivers coach before [in Indianapolis] before Mike Groh got there. I'm told the title is not settled but it doesn't matter because it's the same thing: he's the passing game coordinator or passing game specialist. He's an RPO guy, that's really important here. A Colts source told me he's going to be Sirianni's right-hand man."
 

Carson Wentz

Caplan: "As we first reported a couple weeks ago, a lot of the head-coaching candidates were asked about Wentz and what their plan would be, but I would tell you a couple of sources told me they were never told that he was definitely going to be the quarterback."

 
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I’m sure this will break a lot of hearts:

Sources tell @GeoffMosherNFL and @caplannfl of @InsideBirds: #Eagles offensive assistant coach Press Taylor will not be retained by current staff.

Kevin Patullo expected to be pass game coordinator.
thats awesome.  what took so long

 
My source said it came down to Duce and Sirianni (nothing groundbreaking)and the deal breaker was Duce was not in on Wentz at all. His OC was going to be Darrel Bevell and his plan was to build the offense around Hurts much as he did in Seattle with Wilson. Note that as soon as Sirianni was hired Bevell signed in Jax. Another item of note was that Duce got into a heated argument with Pederson the week before he was benched, with Duce telling Pederson that he needed to stop babying Wentz.
thank god.  no bevell.

 
What is this talk now about Wentz still possibly wanting out of Philly? Even after Doug was bounced. Jesus, what a delicate flower this guy has turned into.

 
I mean, his silence is also telling. He could easily post/speak to dispel the rumours...
agree with the above. I know a few media guys said they reached out to Carson to get some of his thoughts. Would be real weird if he wants out still since so much seems to be built around him. Looks like a "grass is always greener on the other side" take if that is how Carson feels. 

it does make sense that Carson would reach out, say he loved playing with Doug and he wishes him well, but that he is excited for training camp and to start again with the Eagles. One paragraph statement and he could be past all of this. It is strange he won't even send that out

 
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agree with the above. I know a few media guys said they reached out to Carson to get some of his thoughts. Would be real weird if he wants out still since so much seems to be built around him. Looks like a "grass is always greener on the other side" take if that is how Carson feels. 

it does make sense that Carson would reach out, say he loved playing with Doug and he wishes him well, but that he is excited for training camp and to start again with the Eagles. One paragraph statement and he could be past all of this. It is strange he won't even send that out
If he’s as sensitive as it seems, maybe he doesn’t relish the immense pressure he will be under when he takes the field at the Linc. He could go elsewhere, start fresh and be the darling all over again. 

 
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If he’s as sensitive as it seems, maybe he doesn’t relish the immense pressure he will be under when he takes the field at the Linc. He could go elsewhere, start fresh and be the darling all over again. 
How long have you followed the NFL or sports in general? In the time you’ve followed it, you’ve come across sensitive players right? Let’s use McNabb as an example. When Carson talks does he come off like McNabb did even a little bit? When you hear Aaron Rodgers yesterday, are you like “that’s the same #### Carson says!”  I’m genuinely asking at this point  

Maybe Carson is like Batman. Behind the scenes he’s just a completely different person than when the cameras are on. Ive followed sports for over 30 years and can probably name hundreds of players, if not more, who are or come off as sensitive and Carson has absolutely none of their attributes. I’ve never even seen an example of it after 5 years. I honestly can’t think of any player, off the top of my head, who is considered to be sensitive, mean, arrogant, etc and hasn’t showed it in any sport ever in all the years I’ve followed sports. 

 
agree with the above. I know a few media guys said they reached out to Carson to get some of his thoughts. Would be real weird if he wants out still since so much seems to be built around him. Looks like a "grass is always greener on the other side" take if that is how Carson feels. 

it does make sense that Carson would reach out, say he loved playing with Doug and he wishes him well, but that he is excited for training camp and to start again with the Eagles. One paragraph statement and he could be past all of this. It is strange he won't even send that out
Id Marshawn Lynch our media every single time to be honest. That would go double if I knew I never said the #### they said I did. Sure he could come out and say this or that but chances are he already knows how they’d spin it anyway. 

 
How long have you followed the NFL or sports in general? In the time you’ve followed it, you’ve come across sensitive players right? Let’s use McNabb as an example. When Carson talks does he come off like McNabb did even a little bit? When you hear Aaron Rodgers yesterday, are you like “that’s the same #### Carson says!”  I’m genuinely asking at this point  

Maybe Carson is like Batman. Behind the scenes he’s just a completely different person than when the cameras are on. Ive followed sports for over 30 years and can probably name hundreds of players, if not more, who are or come off as sensitive and Carson has absolutely none of their attributes. I’ve never even seen an example of it after 5 years. I honestly can’t think of any player, off the top of my head, who is considered to be sensitive, mean, arrogant, etc and hasn’t showed it in any sport ever in all the years I’ve followed sports. 
To answer your question, no he doesn’t come across that way in interviews. Batman is an interesting analogy 

 
Maybe Carson is like Batman. Behind the scenes he’s just a completely different person than when the cameras are on. Ive followed sports for over 30 years and can probably name hundreds of players, if not more, who are or come off as sensitive and Carson has absolutely none of their attributes. I’ve never even seen an example of it after 5 years. I honestly can’t think of any player, off the top of my head, who is considered to be sensitive, mean, arrogant, etc and hasn’t showed it in any sport ever in all the years I’ve followed sports. 
Obliviousness doesn't require sensitivity, meanness, arrogance, etc. He can be the nicest guy in the world and the greatest teammate but if he's oblivious to his own flaws and doesn't think he needs to fix or change things, that's still a problem you don't want your franchise QB to have. And believing his play this year was the fault of the team, the coaches, luck, or whatever would pretty much lead to the kind of reaction he's had. 

The borderline confidence/arrogance is an alpha-QB thing that is usually a god trait, provided you straddle it successfully. Could be this is just him skewing too much to the arrogance side. There's now been multiple reports, independent of each other and over a year apart that indicate this possibility ("I'm doing everything right, I just need to do it better, and I can do it better because I'm really good") and now how things are playing out also align with it, so it probably just isn't "haters gonna hate." 

 
If he’s as sensitive as it seems, maybe he doesn’t relish the immense pressure he will be under when he takes the field at the Linc. He could go elsewhere, start fresh and be the darling all over again. 
I believe this is known as Scott Rolen syndrome

 
There's now been multiple reports, independent of each other and over a year apart
Right, it's easy to dismiss one report, or two - but when a consistent theme emerges - it's usually right. 

Regardless, at the end of the day - either Carson realizes this is all on him, and commits fully to improving himself - or he blames others, his environment, etc.. and he does not. If he can't internalize that he needs to get better and put the actual work in improving his issues, he won't succeed. Here OR elsewhere.

 
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Obliviousness doesn't require sensitivity, meanness, arrogance, etc. He can be the nicest guy in the world and the greatest teammate but if he's oblivious to his own flaws and doesn't think he needs to fix or change things, that's still a problem you don't want your franchise QB to have. And believing his play this year was the fault of the team, the coaches, luck, or whatever would pretty much lead to the kind of reaction he's had. 

The borderline confidence/arrogance is an alpha-QB thing that is usually a god trait, provided you straddle it successfully. Could be this is just him skewing too much to the arrogance side. There's now been multiple reports, independent of each other and over a year apart that indicate this possibility ("I'm doing everything right, I just need to do it better, and I can do it better because I'm really good") and now how things are playing out also align with it, so it probably just isn't "haters gonna hate." 
I’m not gonna defend him and say he’s not stubborn/oblivious. We’ve seen him almost refuse to throw a ball away and live to see the next play. There’s 100% stubbornness there and that needs to be corrected. He got worse and worse with that and we’ll see how much was him and how much was coaching. 

I was speaking directly to the sensitive aspect. We have seen maybe one of the most sensitive QB’s of our lifetimes in this exact city and I was curious where that came from and what I was missing for someone to have that opinion. 

 
Yes

And here’s an example regarding Rolen. The Schmidt guy mentioned was a really good HOF 3rd basemen here in case you were wondering 👍. As you can see, it was common knowledge Rolen was sensitive. Same with Schmidt who was actually much like Wentz in how he’s viewed here so far 🤷‍♂️

“Schmidt feels a certain kinship and bond with Rolen since both were expected to carry the load, both are ultra sensitive and introspective and both have had tempestuous relationships with the demanding, often unforgiving, Philadelphia fans.

"Scott is a lot like me in that he cares a lot about what's going on around him," Schmidt said. "I told him not to be so sensitive, which is a joke because I handled things the same damn way Scott did, unfortunately. Too much bothered him and too much bothered me. He never was able to free up enough to have fun playing the game like he should have. He's wound tight like I am. You try to please everybody. You let it crop in and it drives you crazy.”

And get better with the “jokes”....you come off as salty and it’s a bad look. 

 
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And here’s an example regarding Rolen. The Schmidt guy mentioned was a really good HOF 3rd basemen here in case you were wondering 👍. As you can see, it was common knowledge Rolen was sensitive. Same with Schmidt who was actually much like Wentz in how he’s viewed here so far 🤷‍♂️

“Schmidt feels a certain kinship and bond with Rolen since both were expected to carry the load, both are ultra sensitive and introspective and both have had tempestuous relationships with the demanding, often unforgiving, Philadelphia fans.

"Scott is a lot like me in that he cares a lot about what's going on around him," Schmidt said. "I told him not to be so sensitive, which is a joke because I handled things the same damn way Scott did, unfortunately. Too much bothered him and too much bothered me. He never was able to free up enough to have fun playing the game like he should have. He's wound tight like I am. You try to please everybody. You let it crop in and it drives you crazy.”

And get better with the “jokes”....you come off as salty and it’s a bad look. 
Lol if you only knew. 

 
See, I DO know.  Now do you see how silly the Rolen comment was? Lol
You don’t. You don’t know my connections and sources. I’m not going to name drop in here and explain every connection to a 3rd cousin of a cashier that’s a brother in law of a coach or a sideline pom pom holder for the cheerleading team. You do know it’s ok if someone else besides you brings a deeper level of insight to this thread, right?

 
You don’t. You don’t know my connections and sources. I’m not going to name drop in here and explain every connection to a 3rd cousin of a cashier that’s a brother in law of a coach or a sideline pom pom holder for the cheerleading team. You do know it’s ok if someone else besides you brings a deeper level of insight to this thread, right?
Yep and I welcome their views. You know what others insights have that yours dont? Context, detail and no poor jokes if you disagree with them. Why is that? Or is that it? Are you angry that I disagree with you? I disagree with people here and they disagree with me. It’s all good man.

You said he was sensitive and than changed it? Which is it? If he’s sensitive fine, show me or provide some detail. Is that too much to ask? You’ve also said he was babied, fragile physically and mentally and someone when you look at you see weakness. You also mentioned that maybe his faith was why he wasn’t doing well. 

You also said that Howie was forcing Doug to play players. I believe you said that someone told you that, correct? So I’ll ask again, why didn’t Doug simply say no? I believe this exchange also lead to another poor joke by you. 

The Rolen joke was one of the more idiotic things I’ve read from a fan presumably of this city so I called you on it. Maybe you are to young to remember how he was viewed or maybe you don’t follow baseball enough to know. Regardless it was another shot and one that made you look foolish and why? Because I asked you to explain how he’s now sensitive? Lol

 
You don’t. You don’t know my connections and sources
And when I said “I DO know” was referring to how Rolen was viewed. 

I am good friends with a few people down there and honestly i wouldn’t consider any of them a source or connection. They hear things and at times pass them along when we’re all together. They have educated guesses on most things and feeling on others. On a few things they’re certain and that’s due to where they work. 

 

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