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Hypothetical question. Let’s say the top 3 are Lawrence, Wilson and Fields. If Jones or Lance are there at 12 would you trade back again if we got another Dolphins type deal?
If you could get the Patriots or Vikings to give up a 2nd maybe even Raiders, Skins, or Bears to give up a future first, then do it. Wouldn't go any lower than 20 though.Hypothetical question. Let’s say the top 3 are Lawrence, Wilson and Fields. If Jones or Lance are there at 12 would you trade back again if we got another Dolphins type deal?
Heck yesHypothetical question. Let’s say the top 3 are Lawrence, Wilson and Fields. If Jones or Lance are there at 12 would you trade back again if we got another Dolphins type deal?
Only for a firstHypothetical question. Let’s say the top 3 are Lawrence, Wilson and Fields. If Jones or Lance are there at 12 would you trade back again if we got another Dolphins type deal?
I’d only move down again if the top 3 WR and top 2 CBs are gone. If any of them are still there, just make the pick. Value lines up with need at those spots, but moving down again that’s probably not going to be the case.Hypothetical question. Let’s say the top 3 are Lawrence, Wilson and Fields. If Jones or Lance are there at 12 would you trade back again if we got another Dolphins type deal?
I think a team would probably trade up before it got to us at pick 12 for one of those guys. If one of those guys is sliding, no way a team gives up a 1st rounder to move up a few spots to take one.Hypothetical question. Let’s say the top 3 are Lawrence, Wilson and Fields. If Jones or Lance are there at 12 would you trade back again if we got another Dolphins type deal?
I'd only do a 2nd if it was Vikings or Pats. That's only dropping back to 14 or 15.I think a team would probably trade up before it got to us at pick 12 for one of those guys. If one of those guys is sliding, no way a team gives up a 1st rounder to move up a few spots to take one.
Assuming all of the above, then no I wouldn't trade back if we're only getting some 2nd round pick.... the drop off after the top 12 players is huge.
If it means losing waddle/smith and instead getting someone else? Then that 2nd isn't worth it imoI'd only do a 2nd if it was Vikings or Pats. That's only dropping back to 14 or 15.
This is predicated that everyone they want is gone and they're next 3-4 guys are available.If it means losing waddle/smith and instead getting someone else? Then that 2nd isn't worth it imo
In this case yes I'd want to.This is predicated that everyone they want is gone and they're next 3-4 guys are available.
Big difference though. We had coaches who figured out what was Wrong with Foles. I think most of us knew what Foles was, didn't think he'd really ever enter a game.Yeah just like with Nick Foles. That didn't work out too well.
How bad has Peter King gotten these days? The other day he was salivating Hurts but I heard it's because he now has a source in the Hurts camp. I could be wrong but he was really lapping it up how good the decision was to trade Wentz (Literally sh***** on the guy) and heaping praise on Hurts. Saying Wentz was totally unprofessional and his behavior baffled him. Meanwhile this is the same clown who a few yrs ago was drooling over how Brady went to Kraft and demanded the team trade Jimmy G away. When Brett Favre threw his temper tantrum of GB drafting Rodgers didn't say anything negative about Favre's behavior. These days it seems like King is more of an opinion writer with an agenda then actual journalist.From Peter King:
So, if you're keeping track: we are either going to move back even more, or move back up, unless we stay put and use the pick. Got it?
Depending what we get back Id have serious thought about it. I wouldn't move out of the top 20 and I want a very early 3rd or a 2nd this year and something next year. Also not sure how I feel about that even without knowing who we pick. I've rather take Lance or Jones myself though. Wouldn't have taken then at 6 but at 12 I would seriously consider it.Hypothetical question. Let’s say the top 3 are Lawrence, Wilson and Fields. If Jones or Lance are there at 12 would you trade back again if we got another Dolphins type deal?
Dallas wants Pitts. They really need oline though......Depending what we get back Id have serious thought about it. I wouldn't move out of the top 20 and I want a very early 3rd or a 2nd this year and something next year. Also not sure how I feel about that even without knowing who we pick. I've rather take Lance or Jones myself though. Wouldn't have taken then at 6 but at 12 I would seriously consider it.
Also Mia is apparently talking of trading back and the Cowboys are getting interest in their pick too now according to reports
I really want them to get Pitts. Another top tier talent they have to pay in 3-4 years that's only going to get so many touches per game.Dallas wants Pitts. They really need oline though......
Right. They might get what they want and not what they need.I really want them to get Pitts. Another top tier talent they have to pay in 3-4 years that's only going to get so many touches per game.
Yeah, a guy I work with knows him pretty well. Said he was shocked when he heard.Insein said:Off topic and a much heavier subject but the youtuber known as EDP445 (the fat crazy eagles fan meme guy) has allegedly been caught trying to meet up with an underage girl.
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/youtuber-edp445-caught-allegedly-trying-to-meet-with-13-year-old-girl-1556528/?amp
So I personally won't be using his gifs and images for anything anymore. Before he was a funny representative for Eagles fans but now he's dead to me. Just figured I'd let everyone know.
Well earned"FIRE HOWIE" chants broke out at the Phillies game lol hilarious
I get the Chase love. Perfect fit. But Pitts is a close second due to the matchup nightmare he would present in 12 personnel with Goeddert. Wish I could get past the back of mind first round TE stigmaInsein said:I really want them to get Pitts. Another top tier talent they have to pay in 3-4 years that's only going to get so many touches per game.
I don't. We suck at covering TEs and to have possible the next best Gen TE in our league would be a nightmare. Plus I'd feel sick since Pitts is a Philly guy through and through and huge Eagles fan.Insein said:I really want them to get Pitts. Another top tier talent they have to pay in 3-4 years that's only going to get so many touches per game.
I absolutely hated this guy for years. I hated Chip as much as the next guy but the dude went too far when he said he hoped the guys house burned down with him in it. I was shocked given all of Youtube's Rules and everything he broke Youtube never took his channel down. Some posters on the old Phillies board loved this guy. I just sewed him as a poor representation and stereotype of what National people view us. Glad I was right about this guy being a fraud. Not happy he seems to like underage people though.Insein said:Off topic and a much heavier subject but the youtuber known as EDP445 (the fat crazy eagles fan meme guy) has allegedly been caught trying to meet up with an underage girl.
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/youtuber-edp445-caught-allegedly-trying-to-meet-with-13-year-old-girl-1556528/?amp
So I personally won't be using his gifs and images for anything anymore. Before he was a funny representative for Eagles fans but now he's dead to me. Just figured I'd let everyone know.
As you know I belonged to a Phillies Baseball board before coming here full time. We had a poster named Sally (That was her profile Name) and about 2 others who use to complain about Eagles chants at Phillies games and poor fan behavior. She was kind of ignorant with her statements but I explained to her the chants were because we expected more from the Phillies at the time. Also after the Phillies became good the same people she complained about as "eagle fans" were at the Phillies games. Myself a 3 others tried to explain to her these are just bandwagon fans."FIRE HOWIE" chants broke out at the Phillies game lol hilarious
A guy who used to be my neighbour was in my state’s police unit who caught these guys. There was the odd funny story about him frantically texting his wife (a teacher) to find out if she knew anything about some cartoon that 10 year olds watch, but he said it was mostly just a combination of heartbreaking and horrifying, having to collect and review evidence.Insein said:Off topic and a much heavier subject but the youtuber known as EDP445 (the fat crazy eagles fan meme guy) has allegedly been caught trying to meet up with an underage girl.
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/youtuber-edp445-caught-allegedly-trying-to-meet-with-13-year-old-girl-1556528/?amp
So I personally won't be using his gifs and images for anything anymore. Before he was a funny representative for Eagles fans but now he's dead to me. Just figured I'd let everyone know.
Wait until the first Eagles home game when the team is down two scores in the 1st quarter. That will seem tame compared to a different word starting with F that will be in the chants directed at him all season."FIRE HOWIE" chants broke out at the Phillies game lol hilarious
Interesting bulleted #2 but it's innovative. I think you can learn a lot about people with things like that.Lots of news today!
Interesting note on that last one: if a player not changing teams wants to change his number for 2021 he has to buy out the league's inventory of his old jersey. If a player wants to change it for 2022, they don't have to do anything other than give the league a year's notice.
- Sirianni and Howie both punted (yet again) on declaring Jalen Hurts the starting QB
- Coaches played games like Rock, Paper, Scissors over Zoom with prospects to test their competitive fire
- Schedule release May 12th
- Eagles' 4th and 15 proposal to replace the onside kick is a no-go
- Jersey number restrictions have been lifted for a bunch of positions
This one is interesting, I read an article about how they did that a lot last year (obviously missed Jefferson, but Reagor still had good measurables) - but that they had noticeably switched to take players more due to having the certain physical requirements, especially in the jump (I'd have to dig up the numbers but I think Reagor excelled there) - thought being it translated well to short area quickness.If you missed the pre-draft press conference this morning:
- How do you weigh college production versus size, speed, etc. for WR prospects? Focus on their skills and will fit into what you are trying to do with your offense, Sirianni got very excited and animated talking about WRs and how they want to use certain players based on what they see from the players (My take based on last two answers: they are moving away from Joe Douglas philosophy of emphasizing college production more than other measurables and assessments, at least for WRs.)
Or, lots of non-star players who don't have to buy out their stock (because the NFL doesn't stock them) would be able to take a lot of the "good" new numbers this year. That might motivate the name players to bite the bullet this year to ensure they get the number they want.Interesting bulleted #2 but it's innovative. I think you can learn a lot about people with things like that.
The last one to me sounds more like we'll see most Jersey # changes after this year. Maybe a few high profile players who can afford to buyout their old #s will do so, but I see Majority changes in '22
:cough: Donnel Pumphrey :cough:Players like Barnett are good examples of the older way of drafting
yea he's the other one, except Barnett actually is an NFL player lol:cough: Donnel Pumphrey :cough:
I have mixed feelings on that approach. I do think a high floor is important in the first couple of rounds and Barnett is a good example. His floor is probably what he is, and never developed above that but he's still a respectable starter.babydemon90 said:yea he's the other one, except Barnett actually is an NFL player lol
To continue the baseball analogy, I’d settle for a walk from Howie this draft.I have mixed feelings on that approach. I do think a high floor is important in the first couple of rounds and Barnett is a good example. His floor is probably what he is, and never developed above that but he's still a respectable starter.
Daniel Jeremiah has said on his pod a few times, Ozzie Newsome's mantra for the first 2 rounds was "hit doubles". A high ceiling is great, but I don't want boom or bust guys early.
I prefer a HBP.To continue the baseball analogy, I’d settle for a walk from Howie this draft.
That's so funny. That was my first thought as wellI prefer a HBP.
Dude, give me one reason this belongs in the Eagles thread. It's getting really bad again.In some pretty cool non Eagles News my Cousin who played for Council Rock, went to East Stroudsburg and was teammates with QB Jimmy Terwillinger who was on the Vikings Practice squad and former Eagles Training camp punter in 09 Ken Parrish. Council Rock became pretty big and separated to CR North and CR South. CR South FB coach remembered my cousin and got him a job coaching WRs. CR South ended up playing a game vs Former Eagles RB Josh Adams when he was a Freshman and bowling over guys (Dude was huge compared to the other players back then.
So anyway my Cousin had a falling out with the coach and a good coaching buddy of his sent in good word to St Joes Prep which is a lot closer to me then where he use to be. He was just hired last month and with in that time has met Former alumni already Marvin Harrison JR the son of Marvin Harrison, Deander Swift, Jeremiah Trotter, and some other cool people. Both Trotter and Marvin's kids are committed to programs for 2021 Harrison JR at Ohio State and Trotter Jr to Clemson. Really cool and interested to see what future stars my cousin and company at the prep coach up next. Always had a soft spot for the prep as my 2nd cousin (refer to as my cousin do to closeness of age) went to the prep back in the day. Overall really happy for him and they play Cardinal O'Hara as a rival which is down the road for me so if the game is at COH this year I might go to that.
“Getting”?Dude, give me one reason this belongs in the Eagles thread. It's getting really bad again.
Who? oh that guy who tries to stay relevant and has fallen so far out of NFL obscurity he has to join a trash realty TV show that has had numerous issues for yrs and should have the plug pulled on it for intentionally allowing the drama they knew about before hand.
big time local prep school program with local NFL players with former Eagles kids attending in the schoolDude, give me one reason this belongs in the Eagles thread. It's getting really bad again.
Well you started the post with "In Non-Eagles news"....big time local prep school program with local NFL players with former Eagles kids attending in the school
I've probably read this post 25 times and chuckle every time.I prefer a HBP.