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Tebow making the team or not isn't even the discussion.

The fact that the Jaguars brass is  considering him is. It gives the impression that they are out of their depth and don't know what it takes to make an NFL team go. It was the same impression that was given when Tebow was taken in the 1st by Denver. An impression confirmed when McDaniels was out after two years.

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Adam Gase has been hired twice in that span. A very risky hire to be sure, but no way it is the worst hire.

I didn't want to pound down in the Jags team thread but I did want to weigh in and see if others are left scratching their heads. -No NFL experience, NONE! Let's start there -A laundry list

Jaguars coach Urban Meyer told reporters that first-round RB Travis Etienne will take all of his minicamp reps at WR. “Worst case scenario you have a running back that's elite with receiver skills,” M

19 hours ago, Anarchy99 said:

I'm in NE. They haven't stopped talking about Tebow this week. When the Pats brought him into training camp 8 years ago, they had so many media requests they couldn't fit everyone in their media room and had to move press conferences outside.

More recently, we have been to Florida many times (our son almost went to UF). There was Tebow stuff everywhere still and the locals kept talking about him playing football (when he was playing baseball at the time).

So yeah, there is a ton of interest in Tebow still. The fact that we are talking about a guy that will be 34 years old to start the season, is switching to TE,  and hasn't played in a game since 2012 should be indicative of that.

I don't know how many tickets Tebow will sell (some I would guess), but the media coverage of the Jags will definitely go way up.

I’ve been in Florida most of my life and outside of Gainesville where people wear his jerseys I haven’t seen Tebow stuff in ages. Where are you seeing this at? 

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1 hour ago, Capella said:

I’ve been in Florida most of my life and outside of Gainesville where people wear his jerseys I haven’t seen Tebow stuff in ages. Where are you seeing this at? 

As I explained, we were at UF a year or two ago and in Gainesville and they might as well changed the name to Tebowville. I am sure the rest of the state is not as infatuated, but there he was still an immortal.

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1 hour ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Tebow making the team or not isn't even the discussion.

The fact that the Jaguars brass is  considering him is. It gives the impression that they are out of their depth and don't know what it takes to make an NFL team go. It was the same impression that was given when Tebow was taken in the 1st by Denver. An impression confirmed when McDaniels was out after two years.

Denver taking Tebow in the 1st was stupidity by the front office. Hiring McDaniels as head coach was stupidity on a new level.

Jags hiring Meyer ,if not for anything else,  puts fannies in the seats, and they can remove the 1/4 mile of hefty bags that cover the entire upper deck seating, and 1/3rd of the lower seating. thats why they hired Meyer, and are now kicking the tires with Tebow. Fla boys coming back. Gator connection. Fla plays in Jax from time to time. aside  from small pockets of 'The U' fans down here in south Fla, the entire state is Gatorland. hiring two of the biggest former U of F names to help bolster attendance in Jax is pretty very smart. 

that, and Meyer is going to absolutely crush it. solid coaching staff. Bevell is underrated as an OC. it was him and only him that picked R Wilson, leaving Carroll to say ' this is Bevell's project' basically leaving the OC on an island. he was one of a small handful of coaches to attend Wilson's pro day. he hand picked a 1st ballot HOFer and coached him well. that can't be overlooked. yeah he was eventually replaced, but isn't every other OC at some point? Kevin Gilbride got punched by Buddy Ryan for lousy play calling. bounced around quite a bit but put together two SB winning seasons with NYG with spectacular postseason efforts by the Giants offense during each SB run. 

on Joe Cullen's hiring as DC:

"Cullen, a 14-year veteran of NFL coaching, spent the last five seasons as the Baltimore Ravens' defensive line coach. This will be his first NFL coordinator position. The Ravens' defense during Cullen's tenure allowed the fewest yards in the NFL, allowing the second-fewest rushing yards per game and forcing the third-most takeaways in the league during that span."  - https://www.jaguars.com/news/official-cullen-defensive-staff-named

 I'm not saying he'll be the return of  Jimmy Johnson, but he's a damn fine football coach.  I'm not entirely sold on the AFC South teams. Indy is too soft they win games the shouldn't and lose games they shouldnt. Titans are the same. Texans just plain stink. 

 

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29 minutes ago, Anarchy99 said:

As I explained, we were at UF a year or two ago and in Gainesville and they might as well changed the name to Tebowville. I am sure the rest of the state is not as infatuated, but there he was still an immortal.

That’s any heisman winner in any small college town. Maybe not as infatuated but if you go to Tallahassee you’ll see plenty of Ward and Winston jerseys too. 

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On 5/13/2021 at 10:03 AM, Andy Dufresne said:

Tebow making the team or not isn't even the discussion.

The fact that the Jaguars brass is  considering him is. It gives the impression that they are out of their depth and don't know what it takes to make an NFL team go. It was the same impression that was given when Tebow was taken in the 1st by Denver. An impression confirmed when McDaniels was out after two years.

Nah, this is common. They bring guys that know the system. 

I'm not buying that Tebow is in great shape so he'll be a good TE not that there's a slash role for him.

I am, however, remembering he's a special man, with a great work ethic, and incredibly polarizing leader, excellent to have showing players "the ropes." 

I would bet $ he becomes an asst TE coach after getting released.

Meyer may make many bad decisions, this isn't likely one of them. Add to this that Tebow might take some press away from nitpicking Meyer and Laurence and...it's a pretty good move.

The Jags we're not that bad of a team on paper so I'm figuring there are plenty of attitude and work ethic probs that made them have such a bad record.

My Titans have been through this a few times and it's always shocking. Look how fast the shine came off Minshew. Is he a talent of two years ago or does he lack something to be able to improve? We're all wondering why they'd replace or sub Robinson now. Etc etc. Meyer's been around. He knows the house cleaning is coming. It all has to play out. They won't win this year but rebuild.

Idk that there is a better cheerleader to gather teammates to get on the same page than Tebow. Quite candidly he did that to America.

Years ago someone joked he should run for President and it still creeps me out that he could have probably won if he ran. Take a few minutes to think back on Tebow and look at highlights. It's unreal what we fell for and how he had us all on the bandwagon....until he didn't. I'm just glad he doesn't call me selling timeshares

 

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On 5/13/2021 at 12:18 PM, Capella said:

That’s any heisman winner in any small college town. Maybe not as infatuated but if you go to Tallahassee you’ll see plenty of Ward and Winston jerseys too. 

Do you have both or just one?

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If you ever wanted to make a team more collegiate, bringing in Tebow is certainly the antidote for anything professional. He might as well be wearing Belushi's generic "College" shirt from Animal House when he goes through his warm-ups. What a terrible quarterback. Decent enough guy, just terrible throwing the football. Maybe Meyer will bring back the jump pass with Lawrence or something.

So many people love college football. He was its zenith for some people. I'll never, ever understand it. An awkward QB who can't really throw? What's not to love?

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On 5/13/2021 at 11:50 AM, Tanner9919 said:

Denver taking Tebow in the 1st was stupidity by the front office. Hiring McDaniels as head coach was stupidity on a new level.

This is about as strongly as I can disagree with someone ever on a post. McDaniels was arguably the most highly qualified coordinator candidate of the last 15 years. His 2 seasons before getting the Denver job, he called plays for the best offense in NFL history to that point in 2007, as part of the only undefeated regular season in 16 game history. Then he called plays for a top-10 offense that lost arguably the best player in NFL history in week 1. 

Its forgotten now, but McDaniels was still a pretty good play caller in Denver. He just wasn't equipped to be a HC at the time. He also had little to no talent on defense, other than Champ, which is what sunk him. But the offense pulled its weight his entire run there. Lets not forget 1400 yard Brandon Lloyd, and in retrospect, he was right about Cutler not being a franchise QB, he was just wrong about Tebow. 

Just because McDaniels didn't pan out, doesn't make it a stupid decision. Its a decision basically every other team who hired a new coach at the time would have made. 

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1 hour ago, Bri said:

Nah, this is common. They bring guys that know the system. 

I'm not buying that Tebow is in great shape so he'll be a good TE not that there's a slash role for him.

I am, however, remembering he's a special man, with a great work ethic, and incredibly polarizing leader, excellent to have showing players "the ropes." 

I would bet $ he becomes an asst TE coach after getting released.

Meyer may make many bad decisions, this isn't likely one of them. Add to this that Tebow might take some press away from nitpicking Meyer and Laurence and...it's a pretty good move.

The Jags we're not that bad of a team on paper so I'm figuring there are plenty of attitude and work ethic probs that made them have such a bad record.

My Titans have been through this a few times and it's always shocking. Look how fast the shine came off Minshew. Is he a talent of two years ago or does he lack something to be able to improve? We're all wondering why they'd replace or sub Robinson now. Etc etc. Meyer's been around. He knows the house cleaning is coming. It all has to play out. They won't win this year but rebuild.

Idk that there is a better cheerleader to gather teammates to get on the same page than Tebow. Quite candidly he did that to America.

Years ago someone joked he should run for President and it still creeps me out that he could have probably won if he ran. Take a few minutes to think back on Tebow and look at highlights. It's unreal what we fell for and how he had us all on the bandwagon....until he didn't. I'm just glad he doesn't call me selling timeshares

 

Most NFL players probably think Tebow is kinda weird.

 

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7 hours ago, Bri said:

Nah, this is common. They bring guys that know the system. 

 

Assuming it’s even the same system, Tebow played in it over 15 years ago as a QB.

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Tebow should have been a TE-slash from the start as he is big and athletic enough.   Probably won`t make the final roster but good  publicity for the Jags,

 

Will be suprised if Meyer has success in Jax and it is not becasue he can`t coach.   There are reasons guys like Saban struggled in the NFL.  When you can`t get 25 of the top 100 players in the country all of a sudden it is more difficult to win. But Meyer does have the top QB prospect so that will help.

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3 hours ago, Dr. Octopus said:

Assuming it’s even the same system, Tebow played in it over 15 years ago as a QB.

Surely it's been adjusted over the years. With his study habits, knowing the terminology, he's surely in good shape to teach 

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8 hours ago, Summer Wheat said:

Tebow should have been a TE-slash from the start as he is big and athletic enough.   Probably won`t make the final roster but good  publicity for the Jags, Will be suprised if Meyer has success in Jax and it is not becasue he can`t coach.   There are reasons guys like Saban struggled in the NFL.  When you can`t get 25 of the top 100 players in the country all of a sudden it is more difficult to win. But Meyer does have the top QB prospect so that will help.

Because they can't coach. 

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Jaguars coach Urban Meyer told reporters that first-round RB Travis Etienne will take all of his minicamp reps at WR. “Worst case scenario you have a running back that's elite with receiver skills,” Meyer said. Similar, it seems, to Le’Veon Bell in his prime.
 

:lmao: 

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10 hours ago, Capella said:

Jaguars coach Urban Meyer told reporters that first-round RB Travis Etienne will take all of his minicamp reps at WR. “Worst case scenario you have a running back that's elite with receiver skills,” Meyer said. Similar, it seems, to Le’Veon Bell in his prime.
 

:lmao: 

Getting reps at HB and WR would be great but only at WR..?

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3 hours ago, Acrobat7 said:

Getting reps at HB and WR would be great but only at WR..?

Maybe it is just for minicamp and not the main training camp. I see this as a positive since this might put his potential in that Kamara, McCaffery category. 

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5 hours ago, Ministry of Pain said:

Former teammates Roast Tebow playing TE for the Jags. 

He hasn't signed him yet,  so maybe there's hope for Meyer after all.  I won't hold my breath though.  

These guys like Meyer and Saban are so used to being like gods on college campuses where no one dares to question their decisions. 

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Urban is just making MoP's premise look better and better every day.

From the professional wrestling world. Yes, professional wrestling. In fairness, Shad Khan is an investor in the AEW. But still...Jax looking like the clown show right now.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10004310-video-urban-meyer-charlie-strong-help-chris-jericho-in-aew-double-or-nothing-match

Wait until they go hang forty their first week on some hapless souls and i have to eat my hat.

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7 hours ago, rockaction said:

Urban is just making MoP's premise look better and better every day.

From the professional wrestling world. Yes, professional wrestling. In fairness, Shad Khan is an investor in the AEW. But still...Jax looking like the clown show right now.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10004310-video-urban-meyer-charlie-strong-help-chris-jericho-in-aew-double-or-nothing-match

Wait until they go hang forty their first week on some hapless souls and i have to eat my hat.

They do play Houston week 1

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On 5/13/2021 at 11:48 AM, Anarchy99 said:

As I explained, we were at UF a year or two ago and in Gainesville and they might as well changed the name to Tebowville. I am sure the rest of the state is not as infatuated, but there he was still an immortal.

It is an interesting angle to think about is the NFL does do things for marketing purposes and to get fans in the stands.

So perhaps that is all this Tebow stuff is about.

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6 minutes ago, Biabreakable said:

It is an interesting angle to think about is the NFL does do things for marketing purposes and to get fans in the stands.

So perhaps that is all this Tebow stuff is about.

Rapoport said the chances of him making the opening day roster were 50/50. For the sake of all of us, I hope he is exaggerating to keep a story in the news for the rest of the summer. 

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On 6/1/2021 at 9:29 AM, Leroy Hoard said:

Vegas has JVL at 6.5 wins, Texans at 4.5 wins.

https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/win-totals/

Wait I can get Hou somewhere other than .5 wins?  I gotta call my bookie!

 

On 6/1/2021 at 7:44 PM, Anarchy99 said:

Rapoport said the chances of him making the opening day roster were 50/50. For the sake of all of us, I hope he is exaggerating to keep a story in the news for the rest of the summer. 

Is being an assistant coach considered "making the roster"?  Because I feel like that was the plan all along.

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On 5/15/2021 at 4:19 PM, Capella said:

Jaguars coach Urban Meyer told reporters that first-round RB Travis Etienne will take all of his minicamp reps at WR. “Worst case scenario you have a running back that's elite with receiver skills,” Meyer said. Similar, it seems, to Le’Veon Bell in his prime.
 

:lmao: 

I think that's the best case scenario.

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