timschochet
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-15/biden-to-send-congress-bill-to-legalize-11-million-immigrants-who-lack-documentation%3f_amp=true
In another thread I wrote that it would be awesome if this passed and I was asked why.
First, because these people aren’t going anywhere. And the exact opposite of what Trump said when he ran for President is true: they are for the most part our best people: our hardest workers, who want better lives for their children. And some, I assume, are bad people. So let’s bring them into the system. They should have to pay some kind of small penalty for the misdemeanor crime of coming here without papers. But after that, the money they will pour into social security alone will be worth it. As for the bad ones, arrest them, deport them, whatever. Statistics suggest they’re a tiny minority anyhow.
Second, from what I’m reading this bill doesn’t make the mistake of previous path to citizenship bills by combining this issue with more security on our border as a means to appease conservatives. Most conservatives can’t be appeased on this issue, they are opposed; that’s why they chose a man like Trump to be their President. That’s too bad, maybe someday they will return to the views of Ronald Reagan, but in the meantime while the Democrats have the majority, however slight, they should try to get this done; it’s long overdue. If the result is the public perception of overreach and a Republican wave election in 2022, it will have been worth it.
Third, President Trump really damaged our world image on this issue especially. A huge part of American exceptionalism is that we are a nation of immigrants, and always have been: some with papers, some without. We welcome all; that’s essential to what has made the United States the greatest nation in world history. We need to reclaim that, and because of the way Trump behaved, now is the time.
In another thread I wrote that it would be awesome if this passed and I was asked why.
First, because these people aren’t going anywhere. And the exact opposite of what Trump said when he ran for President is true: they are for the most part our best people: our hardest workers, who want better lives for their children. And some, I assume, are bad people. So let’s bring them into the system. They should have to pay some kind of small penalty for the misdemeanor crime of coming here without papers. But after that, the money they will pour into social security alone will be worth it. As for the bad ones, arrest them, deport them, whatever. Statistics suggest they’re a tiny minority anyhow.
Second, from what I’m reading this bill doesn’t make the mistake of previous path to citizenship bills by combining this issue with more security on our border as a means to appease conservatives. Most conservatives can’t be appeased on this issue, they are opposed; that’s why they chose a man like Trump to be their President. That’s too bad, maybe someday they will return to the views of Ronald Reagan, but in the meantime while the Democrats have the majority, however slight, they should try to get this done; it’s long overdue. If the result is the public perception of overreach and a Republican wave election in 2022, it will have been worth it.
Third, President Trump really damaged our world image on this issue especially. A huge part of American exceptionalism is that we are a nation of immigrants, and always have been: some with papers, some without. We welcome all; that’s essential to what has made the United States the greatest nation in world history. We need to reclaim that, and because of the way Trump behaved, now is the time.
