DallasDMac
Footballguy
I'm out y'all. Enjoy the second half. Hopefully they manage to keep it entertaining.
It was always 3 seconds I thought.What happened to 5 seconds minimum on a FG?
Mayfield has played well, and only has 3 points to show for it thanks to too many dropped balls and that screw job on the fumble/helmet to helmet.Cleveland has no defensive answer at all. With the dropped passes by the Browns this game is over! Good news Mayfield looks great.
Gladiator on BBC AmericaAny good movies coming on the next few minutes?
I’m a fan of defense and I hate how all the rules have changed to favor offense. But this is such a stupid rule and maybe this will contribute to changing it. It should go to the spot of the fumble or at the very least make it a touchback with the fumbling team retaining possession. Loss of possession plus 20 yards of field position is the single most punitive call in the rulebookAnywhere else on the field you can't advance a fumble. It goes back to where the player lost the ball. Except there. So stupid.
Meanwhile they’ll spend 35 minutes reviewing where a ref arbitrarily placed a football on a blade of grass.How is helmet to helmet not reviewable? "We are going to cut down on head contact but no reviews. " crazy
Except he didn't because he fumbled.Nobody does Hindsight like Andy
If he scores instead of being hit H2H and fumble at the half yard line, we aren't having this discussion at all.
Or are they apoplectic?Cleveland fans must be catatonic right now.
Same as a fumble anywhere else. The ball isn't advanced. Back to spot of the fumble. Fixes everything. Fumble after crossing goal line is a score, anything before stays where it was fumbled unless recovered.So what do you do about that touchback rule if you’re against it?
I like that it punishes dumb decisions but players are still not getting it. If they didn’t make it a turnover, what would be fair punishment for that kind of mistake?
??? Am I losing my mind? Anywhere outside of the last 2 (or 4) minutes of a half, the fumble does not come back to the spot of the fumble, right? Right?Same as a fumble anywhere else. The ball isn't advanced.
Yea, such a dumb, game changing rule. It goes out at the 1, offense has ball at the 1. It goes out 1 yard later, ball goes to the defense? wtf.Anywhere else on the field you can't advance a fumble. It goes back to where the player lost the ball. Except there. So stupid.
That's the part that people should be enraged about. I really don't get the hate for this rule, but I am really trying to avoid getting into why it at least makes sense as compared to any alternative.Devastating, especially with the clear helmet-to-helmet.
I hate the rule, but that's a stupid mistake. No need to reach out for the score like that. Plenty of time and you would have had the ball at the 1. Terrible.
Oh no not The Dumbest Rule in Sports
Anywhere else on the field you can't advance a fumble. It goes back to where the player lost the ball. Except there. So stupid.
@SethCPayne: Lotta people on here claiming that's the dumbest rule in football have never tried to buy a beer in the 4th quarter.If the ball went out at the 1, Cleveland would have the ball at the 1. How does this rule exist?!????????
10 point play when you add in the FG.Doubt Cleveland was going to win anyway with a TD there but that was soul crushing fumble out of bounds when it would been 1st and goal at the 1. Would have actually been likely better for him to be down at the 1 and run more plays so KC didn't get the ball back anyway. In the end that pretty much put this out of reach. Refs missed the penalty but what can you do.
Was just coming to ask this. I agree it's a stupid rule, but wondering what it should be. Couple options (just brainstorming)So what do you do about that touchback rule if you’re against it?
I like that it punishes dumb decisions but players are still not getting it. If they didn’t make it a turnover, what would be fair punishment for that kind of mistake?
Ok, it goes out at the 1, the offense gets it at the 1. Fair.Yea, such a dumb, game changing rule. It goes out at the 1, offense has ball at the 1. It goes out 1 yard later, ball goes to the defense? wtf.
Item 3. Out of Bounds.When a fumble goes out of bounds between the goal lines, the following shall apply: (a) If a fumble goes backward and out of bounds, the ball is next put in play at the inbounds spot by the team that was last in possession; (b) If a fumble goes forward and out of bounds, the ball is next put in play at the spot of the fumble by the team that was last in possession;??? Am I losing my mind? Anywhere outside of the last 2 (or 4) minutes of a half, the fumble does not come back to the spot of the fumble, right? Right?
i understand Andy, I do. But I also watched the KC defender lead with his helmet which is a clear violation of rules and the Refs did nothing. And Cleveland is in the Divisional Playoffs on the road, down 2 scores to the defending Super Bowl Champs who are 1 phantom offsides call from perhaps going to 3 straight Super Bowls...I wouldn't scold the WR for trying to make a play and score there but you are correct, it's risky and you gotta be a special player to do it and execute it.Except he didn't because he fumbled.
It's not hindsight. A similar thing happened with a QB reaching over the goal line only to fumble (I forget who it was). Bad things happen when you expose the ball to turnover. Live to fight another day.
To expand... You fumble at the 3, it goes out at the 1, you get it at the 1.Ok, it goes out at the 1, the offense gets it at the 1. Fair.
It goes out at the -1, the offense gets it at the -1? Automatic TD? Fair?
I actually like this.I don't think the offense should be rewarded for trying to score a TD and failing with the ball being spotted at the one. What I could live with is a touchback rule for the offense instead. First down at the 20.
I quoted the rule book, but yes, you are losing your mind. If the fumble goes forward, it goes back to the spot of the fumble. If it goes backwards, it goes to where it went out.??? Am I losing my mind? Anywhere outside of the last 2 (or 4) minutes of a half, the fumble does not come back to the spot of the fumble, right? Right?
No.To expand... You fumble at the 3, it goes out at the 1, you get it at the 1.
You fumble at the 15, it goes out at the 1, you get it at the 1.
Maybe he left before they kicked the FB hahaTracy said Mahomes went into the locker room early...WTH s she talking about?
He drove them down to a FG with 5 seconds left, he didn't leave early. What a joke report.
About to switch to the B List golf tournament from HawaiiAny good movies coming on the next few minutes?
Wow. Garrett. He might be hurt otherwise and just not on the injury report. But he hasn't seemed right since they pointed out he had COVID. I don't watch enough to know.Garrett has been a shell of himself since Covid. I hope he’s actually healthy enough to be playing and isn’t exacerbating lung damage or something. Had one play where he pressured Mahomes then got burned on the end around to Hardiman, who he ended up tracking down 40 yards later but then was so winded he missed the next series and has done nothing else. Just doesn’t look right to me
The Patriots didn't make the playoffs.This could have been a better game ...
Chubb with hands of stone ... and Higgins fumble thru the EZ.
What a shame.
Because Browns gonna Brown ... I'm not very entertained today
... but I am very much looking forward to Bill vs Chiefs next week.