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[Dynasty] 2021 NFL Draft Class (3 Viewers)
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Faust
MVP
Strategic bump so that this article is near the top of a fresh page - dominator rating & breakout age are useful variables to consider when you are looking at NFL rookies for fantasy football purposes.
rockaction
Footballguy
Checked it out. No comment, really, other than you're right that they are useful variables. Interesting to see their breakout ages. I think 2020 stats are, of course, best taken with a grain of salt. How much? I don't know. Terrace Marshall would seem to be affected, as would others, by 2020 as a statistical measure of breakout age and dominator rating.
Faust
MVP
socrates
Footballguy
New threads have been created for
RBs Jermar Jefferson, Kylin Hill
WRs Sage Surratt, Seth Williams, Terrace Marshall Jr
TE Pat Freiermuth
Faust
MVP
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Can you point me to the directory? The pinned index thread at the top of the SP page doesn't have these players listed and I don't see any other rookies. Am I missing something?
barackdhouse
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Yeah it is super useful. I just added a Rountree thread a couple minutes ago but I'll lay off doing anymore.
New threads made for
RBs Larry Roundtree III, CJ Verdell, Elijah Mitchell, Michael Carter, Demetric Felton, Rhamondre Stevenson
WRs Amon-Ra St. Brown, Jaelon Darden, D'Wayne Eskridge
TE Brevin Jordan
Faust
MVP
MAC_32
Footballguy
socrates
Footballguy
Thanks. Matt Waldman did a quick scouting video of Jhamon Ausbon. I had forgotten about him.
Another receiver to check out is Ihmir Smith-Marsette out of Iowa.
Zyphros
Footballguy
Disagree. I don't see any traits from him that really stand out. He's slow with slow feet, doesn't cut sharp or that explosive. I guess he has decent body control, hands, and tracks the ball well but he doesn't attack the ball.
He's in my unranked tier because of that and I won't touch those players. I see no floor, and no ceiling so to me he was a useless guy to rank.
MAC_32
Footballguy
No, he does not - at all. He adjusts well to the play, but is passive at the catch point. My neck's crooked a bit with your slow feet comment, but I don't disagree about his cutting ability - that isn't his game. Our conclusion is similar though - I don't see any ceiling with him. We don't agree about the floor, but in our game I don't think it matters. WR's without a meaningful ceiling don't interest me.
The issue with SF (and 2QB) leagues is that the draft is really the only way to get a QB as they are very expensive in trade. Because of that reaching a bit for a QB is necessary and worth the risk if there is any chance of being a starter for years to come. Because of that scarcity you sometimes have to reach for lesser talents on the chance they pan out at the QB position.
ETA: Some times it's just a necessary evil - especially if you are desperate at QB.
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Pwingles
Footballguy
IMO, its not really much different than young RB1's in more traditional type leagues. It just adds another element of the "elite" tier type player that you have to pay up for.
You still have to pay a 1st in most leagues to get a guy like Jacobs, or Mixon. Those guys are akin to guys like Carr or Cousins in a superflex league. According to DLF, players like Stafford are essentially the same value as a guy like david montgomery. In a 1 qb league, i doubt anyone is doing that straight up.
It just sort of balances the equation value wise, similar to how TE premium helps balance out values, imo
Born to Run
Footballguy
It is very different in the SF league I am in. I took over an orphan with only one starting QB; the other was Brees. Inquiries around the league show that marginal starting QBs (Jimmy G, Jones, etc.) are valued in the 1.07 to 1.11 range. Probably much easier to pick up a RB2 than a backup QB in SF.
Pwingles
Footballguy
The context of the team you are negotiating with is also relevant. If I have 3 "starters" and you have 1, you are gonna have to pay up.
Same idea for young Rbs. (obv no '21 rookies in here, but throw Harris, ETN, and Williams in here)
CMC, JT, Kamara, Barkley, Cook, Swift, Chubb Dobbins, Henry, Akers, CEH, Zeke, Jacobs, Sanders, Jones, Gibson, Ekeler, Mixon, Robinson, Montgomery, Hunt, Carson
Depending on your league, most of these guys cost at least one 1st. Prolly iffy when you get to Hunt and Carson, but you get the point. There are almost an exact number of Qbs, (not including this years rookies, but you could add 4-5 more names to this list)
Mahommes, LJax, Murray, Allen, Watson, Prescott, Wilson, Herbert, Burrow, Rodgers, Tua, Stafford, Hurts, Tanny, Jones, Mayfield, Ryan, Cousins, Goff, Carr, Wentz, Jimmy G
These are DLF ranks, went 22 players deep, and the cutoff point is about the same where the 1st round asking price gets a little iffy. I think its pretty balanced, but I can also see another owner trying to squeeze you for a little extra value, Id prolly do the same in preliminary talks to take your temperature.
Same idea for young Rbs. (obv no '21 rookies in here, but throw Harris, ETN, and Williams in here)
CMC, JT, Kamara, Barkley, Cook, Swift, Chubb Dobbins, Henry, Akers, CEH, Zeke, Jacobs, Sanders, Jones, Gibson, Ekeler, Mixon, Robinson, Montgomery, Hunt, Carson
Depending on your league, most of these guys cost at least one 1st. Prolly iffy when you get to Hunt and Carson, but you get the point. There are almost an exact number of Qbs, (not including this years rookies, but you could add 4-5 more names to this list)
Mahommes, LJax, Murray, Allen, Watson, Prescott, Wilson, Herbert, Burrow, Rodgers, Tua, Stafford, Hurts, Tanny, Jones, Mayfield, Ryan, Cousins, Goff, Carr, Wentz, Jimmy G
These are DLF ranks, went 22 players deep, and the cutoff point is about the same where the 1st round asking price gets a little iffy. I think its pretty balanced, but I can also see another owner trying to squeeze you for a little extra value, Id prolly do the same in preliminary talks to take your temperature.
