rockaction
Footballguy
Seriously. I figured he'd throw a lot of parallel passes and screens to avoid the rush, and that Hill and Hardman and Williams or Edwards-Helaire would move the ball that way. They clearly didn't.
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*** OFFICIAL Super Bowl LV Thread *** Kansas City Chiefs (-3) vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (O/U 56) (3 Viewers)
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
My Bears have never been anything close to a rival of his, but the one time that I can remember it mattering was during the Urlacher era. Brady had something like 3rd and 8 from maybe the Bears 14 yard line and scrambled up the middle to get the 1st prior to a goal to go TD. But he totally juked Urlacher with a move that didn't look any better than if he tried it today, but Urlacher choked hard on it and it was the difference between a 4 yard gain and a 10 yard conversion.
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
Fournette ran with passion. He knew this was his best chance to win a title and he took it. But I think he might be back. Even if he follows the money, what's the market for a RB with some tread on the tires? I call that one 50/50.
Godwin is gone. He'll get paid somewhere.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
That's. Maybe the most incredible thing I've ever read. It is on par with being told there were more years of time that passed between the building of the Great Pyramid and the reign of Cleopatra than between the reign of Cleopatra and Tom Brady's 7th Super Bowl victory.
DJackson10
Footballguy
He's a pretty sore loser and the cheating allegations up in NE. Nick Foles still wants a Congratulations handshake from Brady.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
maybe Fole will get it when Tampa beats the the 7-9 Eagles in round 1 next nest year.
DJackson10
Footballguy
I saw one that said Brady was more likely to win in the playoffs then Lebron James is at making a Free Throw this year
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Insoxicated
What's up buddy. I know you and I threw jabs here and there on here.
Cheers and much love on the title.
I'm down in Tampa all the damn time. One of these days I'm gone but you some damn drinks. Either way... cheers GB.
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Insoxicated
the meme I saw was beady was more likely to make the super bowl than Steph curry was to make a three pointer
Capella
Footballguy
Mr. Mojo
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
It’s all love man, we are just goofin in here. Definitely take you up on that. Thanks buddy!!What's up buddy. I know you and I threw jabs here and there on here.
Cheers and much love on the title.
I'm down in Tampa all the damn time. One of these days I'm gone but you some damn drinks. Either way... cheers GB.
Capella
Footballguy
That was their best hope but the Bucs were beating them to the edges. I thought the Bucs were the better team sometime in the middle of the second quarter and would win, and they just poured it on from there.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, some of the penalties were suspect and helped put KC in a position that they couldn't get out under from, but Tampa absolutely smothered the Chiefs tonight on defense and left no real doubt who was the better team. Too much speed on defense and all over the field, really, even on offense. Evans beat his guys on the two big defensive penalties on that last drive of the half and he just sort of accelerated right by them. Even Gronk looked spry. But David and White had a big responsibility in matching up with Kelce, and David especially proved up to the task of being able to cover him at least long enough to pass him off to a safety, something many LBs would be totally lost on.
Congrats on the win. Good job all around.
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When the Bucs answered the Chiefs FG with a touchdown and then shutdown their next drive I knew it was over. Credit goes to Todd Bowles, the Bucs D showed up.
Deamon
Footballguy
By quite a bit. Not sure why they'd use such a large margin comparison. The best one was the Shaq free throw one.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
I'm pretty positive most knew it was a huge advantage, especially if they watched the playoffs from the start. The surprise comes from Reid and Bieniemy not game planning around it at all it seemed. They left their hobbled QB to fend for himself, which was a head scratcher. Overwhelmingly outcoached by Arians and staff on all levels.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Letdown of a game. Yeah refs got way too involved and it hurt the Chiefs in the first half, but the Chiefs had amole chances to make a comeback statement and did nothing. Can’t win football games if your QB is running the wrong way all night.
Surprised that KC could do nothing on defense TB did whatever it wanted. Couple that with a dominating defensive effort and this was a blowout that wasn’t even as close as the score indicated. Yawner
Surprised that KC could do nothing on defense TB did whatever it wanted. Couple that with a dominating defensive effort and this was a blowout that wasn’t even as close as the score indicated. Yawner
Snorkelson
Footballguy
Leftwich will make a good head coach someday. Pretty sure his playing career started/ended while Brady was playing.
rockaction
Footballguy
You're absolutely correct. 2003-2012. Love your avatar, by the way. Wearing an American Beauty 50th anniversary shirt right now. Stonewashed, of course.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
The Chiefs went with a 5 man protection on 92% of their offensive snaps last night. That’s the 3rd highest rate for any team since 2016 according to Next Gen Stats. With their O-Line injuries, that seems like it was a huge mistake and shocking that they never made an adjustment to give those guys help.
rockaction
Footballguy
Their tight ends aren't exactly blockers. Kelce and Ricky Seals-Jones aren't. There's another guy I don't know who might be able to block. It probably didn't really fit their personnel. Which running back played that is good in pass pro? Not many of them. Bell maybe. But CEH and Darrel and Darwin? No.
So maybe it was that they didn't really have anybody, or that leaving Kelce into block doomed them anyway.
JetMaxx
Footballguy
Congrats to you and all of the TB fans on here. Loved the beat down laid on Reid, Mahomes and Hill!
ChiefD
Footballguy
Yeah, this was tough to take. Reid made a lot of colossal mistakes in the game and leading up to the game.
But, the Bucs just whipped them fair and square. Some things I wish the Chiefs would have done:
1. Get to Tampa earlier. Flying in the afternoon before was a huge mistake in my opinion. I can understand not being there the whole week, but they should have come in a few days early to get acclimated, allow the players to feel the excitement of Super Bowl week, etc. It's like they made the Super Bowl but didn't let the players soak up the excitement of that accomplishment.
2. Help the O-line. Just an awful game plan by Reid.
3. Hey Reid - don't take timeouts at the end of the first half. Just pointless there. You were getting your ### kicked - just try and get to the locker room down 14-6. But no, stop the clock TWICE for the Bucs. Maddening.
Reid clearly did not have his A game, and to me the mental stuff is what sucks the most. The Chiefs did not put up a fight at all, but to the Bucs credit they pounced on it and didn't allow them an inch.
On a side note, I am massively disappointed on how CBS handled the Britt Reid story. And there was hardly a mention of that poor girl fighting for her life and the family that is dealing with the aftermath. Britt Reid deserves every bit of anger coming his way if he indeed was impaired (which I believe he was and news accounts seem to indicate that). I watched a lot of coverage yesterday and can't recall any of the announcers calling him out or acting outraged or anything about that. Shameful, in my opinion.
Congrats to the Bucs and their fans - that is one hell of a team. They deserved that win - I just had higher expectations that the Chiefs would come in better prepared.
Summer Wheat
Footballguy
I was thinking the same thing. Was starting to feel bad for him as it was not a good audition for his future. I did hear on some sport talk show that his interviews were underwhelming. That makes sense if every team passed on him. Bienemy yakking it up during the NA was not a good look either.
Leftwich looks more the part of a future HC than Bienemy.
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ChiefD
Footballguy
Yeah, I would like to hear the true story on this vs the prevailing story that he isn't getting a head coaching job because of the color of his skin.
Clearly he is not interviewing well, or doesn't have a solid plan, or assistants lined up......or something. But to me, the media is being really lazy here and not digging into the truth.
If he was qualified and interviewing well, he would have had a job. Something he is doing isn't working.
Capella
Footballguy
Totally agree with you on #1. The players were just as safe in a Tampa hotel as they were in KC. Ridiculous to not let them be around the super bowl all week.
I did see Andy address this after the game and he said most of the game planning was put in place already, which I assumed, but still does not account for lack of in-game adjustment.
I hate to pile on Andy, and this is absolutely not a great look for Beinemy either, but read some Next Gen Stats after the game which had me concluding this was one of the worst coached Super Bowls ever on the Chiefs side. Not that the NGS were anything eye opening, it just confirmed that the Tampa gameplan was basically what everyone but apparently the Chiefs thought it would be.
They played two high safety shells 87% of the time, a 5 year high for a Todd Bowles defense. I think most assumed they'd try to do this to slow down Hill. They heavily defended the sidelines trying to force throws over the middle. Some people were unsure if Tampa would blitz a lot due to Chiefs OL but they did not need to put a ton of pressure on the Chiefs and why is that? This one mystifies me the most. The Chiefs, a team with a patchwork OL used 5 man protections on 92% of their plays, that's the third highest rate in a game since 2016 when NGS started tracking it. This means they did not help their OT's in a game they were dominated.
Everything the way Tampa defended them called for Mahomes to heavily focus on shorter underneath throws over the middle. The fact that KC only had 5 players in protection should have afforded them plenty of outlets. Tampa's plan was basically to concede the shorter passes and have their safeties run downhill quickly. Instead Mahomes, and this is hard to believe, back pedaled and scrambled for a whopping 496 yards yesterday. He never should have been holding onto the ball that long.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I’m an Andy Reid fan, but he did a terrible job in this game. I get that losing Fisher was brutal, but his game plan seemed like he thought it wouldn’t matter. And he made no adjustments. The timeouts near the end of the first half were so dumb (I was yelling that at that TV, lol).
Brady will be the story, and for obvious reasons, but that Tampa D won the game. That was a dominant performance against what many consider one of the best offenses ever assembled.
Brady will be the story, and for obvious reasons, but that Tampa D won the game. That was a dominant performance against what many consider one of the best offenses ever assembled.
fightingillini
Footballguy
Yep. I will never understand Reid calling timeouts near the end of the half. The Tampa D should have shared the MVP.
It doesn't matter how good your QB is or how good your WR/TE are, the NFL game is always played (and won/lost) up front. And Tampa destroyed KC in the trenches. You can beat pretty much any NFL QB if you can get consistent pressure from just your front 4. And TB did that, and it's amazing that Mahomes scrambled for about 4 football fields. Not only TB got pressure, they were disciplined and didn't get Mahomes get clean rollouts from the pocket. They made him go backwards and out of the pocket.
Tampa also had a much better balance, Fournette and Jones had 150 yds rushing between them. So Tampa pretty much followed the old school method for winning football.....running the ball and playing great D.
gump
Footballguy
I blocked my morning off from meetings just in case...quick trip to the mall now for lunch and to experience the fever, about 50 people in line at DSG for champ gear. Lots of people wearing Bucs, flying flags, etc. Beautiful day!
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
I'm sure someone's already posted the call but worth posting even so https://twitter.com/NOTSportsCenter/status/1358614082585321472
Really unnecessary late hit by security.
GB Kevin Harlan
Edit: Can't stop laughing at the 2 security in white......acting like they're players living out a dream
All the while the streaker had already given himself up.
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DocHolliday
Footballguy
I get it. It felt weird rooting for him after hating the guy after all these years. Who am I trying to kid? I still hate him but just less than the Chiefs.
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Grahamburn
Footballguy
randall146
Footballguy
Exactly. It's just that only one player in NFL history has ever achieved a meaningful sample size
Bossman
Footballguy
One of the major takes that I took from this game...
Tom Brady is much better at calling offensive plays than Josh McDaniels (NEP OC).
At one point last night, 3rd down as I recall, Brady looked to the sidelines, held up his hand slightly in a "wait" gesture, and mouthed "I got this". He huddled called the play from his wristband ... and executed to the tune of a first down. Would never, ever see him call off the play coming in when he was in NE.
Tom Brady is much better at calling offensive plays than Josh McDaniels (NEP OC).
At one point last night, 3rd down as I recall, Brady looked to the sidelines, held up his hand slightly in a "wait" gesture, and mouthed "I got this". He huddled called the play from his wristband ... and executed to the tune of a first down. Would never, ever see him call off the play coming in when he was in NE.
Harlan has some great play by play calls over the years. My favorites are his LeBron dunk over Garnett - no regard for human life and Simultaneous call of the KC game and end of Miami-NE game in 2019"I calling both games!"
https://twitter.com/NOTSportsCenter/status/1358614082585321472
Really unnecessary late hit by security.
GB Kevin Harlan
Edit: Can't stop laughing at the 2 security in white......acting like they're players living out a dream
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