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Biden has been super busy with all the executive orders and such and such. Anybody already changed their minds?
Biden wasn't my first choice - maybe not even my 4th or 5th but it's refreshing not seeing verbal diarrhea Tweeted on a daily basis and I'm no longer embarrassed by the guy running the country - even if I disagree with him. So I got that going for me.Biden has been super busy with all the executive orders and such and such. Anybody already changed their minds?
@Stealthycat and @NorvilleBarnes have both, within the last few days, suggested that maybe Biden voters were having buyer's remorse. That didn't seem right to me but I figured I should test it out out with real science.lol - what prompted this poll?
I assume you mean in the primary, not the general.Biden wasn't my first choice - maybe no even my 4th or 5th ...
Correct - in the primaries. We'll never know for sure but I do think I was wrong and folks like Tim were right that Biden was maybe the only person who could have defeated Trump. And I'm with you on Biden being what we need now - he's far from perfect but I feel like he's set a good tone of healing and getting back to normal. I'm slightly optimistic once Covid and Trump are mostly behind us and that we can get back to normalcy.I assume you mean in the primary, not the general.
I don't remember where I had Biden initially ranked in the primaries. I know I preferred Buttigieg and Klobuchar, but I don't remember who else I had ranked higher. I think I had a bunch of people ranked higher, and probably had Biden outside the top five.
In hindsight, I should have ranked Biden a lot higher. He's what we needed right now. Not only is he very solidly in my retroactive top five, but I might even put him at #1 ahead of Buttigieg just because I think it's important, right now, that we have a President who's been in Washington for multiple decades and has strong connections to long-standing institutions and norms. He remembers what it was like when things weren't so polarized. I think Buttigieg might be a future star, but it's not his time yet. It's Biden's.
Yeah me too. Although admittedly he looked totally lost in those early debates where there were like 10 candidates all talking over each other.In hindsight, I should have ranked Biden a lot higher.
I can't see how this would apply to any Biden voters other than the "fringe left" but I tend to come from a much more moderate POV than those listed.@Stealthycat and @NorvilleBarnes have both, within the last few days, suggested that maybe Biden voters were having buyer's remorse. That didn't seem right to me but I figured I should test it out out with real science.
Same.So far, Biden has succeeded admirably in meeting my #1 expectation of not being Donald Trump. He hasn't done anything crazy like nominating AOC for CIA Director or whatever. All good on my end.
In terms of being "tactically sound", I suspect that tactic was statistically equivalent to writing in Jourgensen.Voted for "I did not vote for but..."
I wish I would have. I voted Jorgensen. Stupid vote, if tactically sound.
Whoops. I think tactically useless is more what I was going for and morally sound was the key. But morally sound, for me, would have probably been to leave the top of the ticket blank. I agree enough with Jorgensen on other issues to vote for her, but her proposals/stance on COVID-19 were/was bonkers.In terms of being "tactically sound", I suspect that tactic was statistically equivalent to writing in Jourgensen.
I like Biden a lot more than you. In fact, Ilikehim a lot, but this is pretty much how I feel as well.So far, Biden has succeeded admirably in meeting my #1 expectation of not being Donald Trump. He hasn't done anything crazy like nominating AOC for CIA Director or whatever. All good on my end.
Trump's EO's reversed a lot of Bad Obama EO's. Still, you don't get call someone a dictator for using EO's and then surpass that guy.Not regretting it yet, most of his EOs have been to reverse Trump’s EOs, so I’m not bothered by them. There’s also an actual plan to combat Covid, which is still taking some getting used to.
Yeah well that's the way it goes with EO. Biden is just overturnin a bunch of bad Trump EOs.Trump's EO's reversed a lot of Bad Obama EO's.
Trump was called a dictator for his repeated attempts at circumventing both law and proper protocols, with the use of EOs being just one example. Statements of fact are not hyperbole.Trump's EO's reversed a lot of Bad Obama EO's. Still, you don't get call someone a dictator for using EO's and then surpass that guy.
Also, there was a plan to combat Covid in place before Biden was elected.
The hyperbole and over-the-top drama you guys engage in makes it difficult to take a lot of posts seriously and makes actual, thoughtful discussion difficult.
That was just to get into the Dem primary so they could vote for the guy that would lose to Trump!!!!!! WaitFWIW, limited data is available but there appears to have been a larger than usual numbers of people changing their party affiliations. If any group of voters regret who they voted for in that election, it appears to be Trump voters.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/536113-tens-of-thousands-of-voters-drop-republican-affiliation-after-capitol
I get the joke, and I like it, but want to clarify I'm referring to post-election data.That was just to get into the Dem primary so they could vote for the guy that would lose to Trump!!!!!! Wait
People that actually voted for Trump and want to skew the results.Who are the people who voted for option 1??
Agreed. Saying there was no plan in place is not a statement of fact but, indeed, hyperbole.Trump was called a dictator for his repeated attempts at circumventing both law and proper protocols, with the use of EOs being just one example. Statements of fact are not hyperbole.
I read it....still not going to change that narrative. Can't stop it...can only hope to contain it.I get the joke, and I like it, but want to clarify I'm referring to post-election data.
What was Trump’s plan?Agreed. Saying there was no plan in place is not a statement of fact but, indeed, hyperbole.
Anyways, Biden's been a real disappointment so far.
The one that got us to a million shots in a day before he left office.What was Trump’s plan?
Disappointment would be based on performance to an expectation. Based on your posts, you clearly expected a poor performance - so disappointment would be performing better than you expected.BladeRunner said:Agreed. Saying there was no plan in place is not a statement of fact but, indeed, hyperbole.
Anyways, Biden's been a real disappointment so far.
Was that the same plan that killed north of 400,000 Americans?jamny said:The one that got us to a million shots in a day before he left office.
No, that wasnt the plan.Was that the same plan that killed north of 400,000 Americans?
Very true, that does require planning, which I highly doubt Trump was heavily involved in. The planning was likely done without his knowledge by people who actually knew what went into the entire process, and implemented the same way.No, that wasnt the plan.
I've said that Trump deserves criticism for his handling of covid but so many refuse to give him any credit for getting a vaccine up to 1 million a day within a year of the virus hitting our country.
That requires planning.
So, all the blame but none of the credit.Very true, that does require planning, which I highly doubt Trump was heavily involved in. The planning was likely done without his knowledge by people who actually knew what went into the entire process, and implemented the same way.
I voted for Biden and still would. That being said a virus is a virus and can`t be contained. Without a vaccine the results would be pretty much the same. The nursing homes were a disaster and that is on the state level. Cuomo should be impeached if that is possible.Was that the same plan that killed north of 400,000 Americans?
Was he involved in the vaccine trials? Then I’ll give him all the credit in the world, but he absolutely hamstrung every effort we put forth at the beginning of this pandemic all for the sake of the economy, not to mention his mockery of both health safety measures and the people who used them.So, all the blame but none of the credit.
Got it.
With a giant side of speculation.So, all the blame but none of the credit.
Got it.
What? He literally coined the term warpspeed.Was he involved in the vaccine trials? Then I’ll give him all the credit in the world, but he absolutely hamstrung every effort we put forth at the beginning of this pandemic all for the sake of the economy, not to mention his mockery of both health safety measures and the people who used them.
The Pfizer vaccine was entirely self funded and did not take part in Operation Warp Speed. States are responsible for vaccine distribution. But Trump was a good cheerleader.So, all the blame but none of the credit.
Got it.