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On 3/5/2021 at 2:30 PM, FairWarning said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

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Woke (/ˈwoʊk/ WOHK) is a term that originated in the United States, referring to a perceived awareness of issues that concern social justice and racial justice.[1] It derives from the African-American Vernacular English expression stay woke, whose grammatical aspect refers to a continuing awareness of these issues.

First used in the 1940s, the term has resurfaced in recent years as a concept that symbolizes perceived awareness of social issues and movement. By the late 2010s, woke had been adopted as a more generic slang term associated with left-wing politics, progressive or socially liberal causes such as anti-racism, LGBT rights, feminism and environmentalism. It has also been the subject of memes, ironic usage and criticism for its methods and consequences.[2][3] Its widespread use since 2014 is a result of the Black Lives Matter movement.[1][4]

Thanks. For better or worse, my perception had been way more in line with the wiki definition. 

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1 hour ago, KarmaPolice said:

I am for sure missing something.  

Annoying, yes.... 

I think his argument is that by labeling your child a boy or a girl that you are doing a huge disservice to the tiny % of kids that get misgendered. And since these kids commit suicide sometimes, seemingly something that would be avoided had their parents painted the room yellow instead of blue or pink.

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11 hours ago, parasaurolophus said:

I think his argument is that by labeling your child a boy or a girl that you are doing a huge disservice to the tiny % of kids that get misgendered. And since these kids commit suicide sometimes, seemingly something that would be avoided had their parents painted the room yellow instead of blue or pink.

:lol: Come on.   The kid's not even born yet FFS.  

 

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2 hours ago, parasaurolophus said:

Swiss family robinson, lol. 

So dumb.

How about the scene in Dumbo resembling a minstrel show?  What kid under 7 even knows what the hell a minstrel show is, never mind knowing that it is racist.

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7 hours ago, ekbeats said:

How about the scene in Dumbo resembling a minstrel show?  What kid under 7 even knows what the hell a minstrel show is, never mind knowing that it is racist.

I just like how the descriltion for swiss family robinson was that the villaims were foreign pirates and it backed up stereotypes of foreign invaders and otherness. 

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9 hours ago, ekbeats said:

How about the scene in Dumbo resembling a minstrel show?  What kid under 7 even knows what the hell a minstrel show is, never mind knowing that it is racist.

If anything they need a warning for the trippy pink elephant scene.  That freaked my sister out when she was little. 

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Takes a black mom to say the anti-racism curriculum being rolled out in schools is harmful 🤣...guess the white moms don't want to be canceled.

Las Vegas charter school sued for curriculum covering race, identity

When you are focused on getting your child the skills to compete in the global workforce this is exactly what you want to see:  In the fall, the school unveiled a new five-year strategic plan naming anti-racism as its top priority.

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Just now, FairWarning said:

Wonder if the offended people were ok when Bugs Bunny cross-dressed?

Maybe.  They might see is as mocking....or they might see it as refreshing that Bugs is expressing is inner self outwards. Looney Tunes is a weird one because it was my understanding they weren't exactly made for kids back in the day. It was only because they were put on as cartoons on the weekdays were they really pushed on kids. 

I think the point to be take though is that both sides hurt their narrative by outwardly expressing the desire to cancel stuff that noone really gives a #### about and being outraged when #### they don't care about is canceled/retooled/backburnered etc. etc.  Noone really gives a #### about Pepe LePew if they weren't reminded of Pepe LePew.  90%+ upwards of the people interested in the new Space Jam probably don't know about Pepe LePew......and the remaining people, after watching the movie (and not being made aware of the decision to not have Pepe LePew in the movie) would probably be like "Yeah....I wonder where Pepe LePew was?"

 

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51 minutes ago, parasaurolophus said:

But he is now aware, all on his own of course, of the harm that such a thing has caused.

I don’t know this author outside of being a Trump supporter.  What was the harm?

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14 hours ago, djmich said:

So now, as a society, we're expected to lie about empirical data if it may hurt some group's feelings?

 

1 hour ago, NorvilleBarnes said:

Not sure that counts as "pre-emptive". Pretty strong reaction considering all he did was read and like Andy Ngo's book.

Free thought and free expression of ideas are acceptable as long as they adhere strictly to current dogma.

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22 minutes ago, Sand said:

So now, as a society, we're expected to lie about empirical data if it may hurt some group's feelings?

 

what was the empirical data?

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16 minutes ago, joffer said:

what was the empirical data?

That law professor indicated that minority students were performing worse in her class than others.

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Just now, Sand said:

That law professor indicated that minority students were performing worse in her class than others.

that sounds vaguely anecdotal.

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12 minutes ago, joffer said:

that sounds vaguely anecdotal.

Mincing words here.  Anecdotal would be running into a woman and having a bad experience and indicating that based on that data point women (a population of ~150M in the US) are bad.  She didn't conduct a double blinded study of her class of 30 students but we should probably feel confident in her ability to do basic math on a population of this size.

 

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1 hour ago, djmich said:

Mincing words here.  Anecdotal would be running into a woman and having a bad experience and indicating that based on that data point women (a population of ~150M in the US) are bad.  She didn't conduct a double blinded study of her class of 30 students but we should probably feel confident in her ability to do basic math on a population of this size.

 

"a lot of my lower ones are blacks" isn't exactly empirical data either.

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3 hours ago, parasaurolophus said:

But he is now aware, all on his own of course, of the harm that such a thing has caused.

In other words, his bandmates and management neutered his thoughts, but he must consider theirs as being correct.  The good news is I cancelled the band long before this was a thing.  

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18 minutes ago, joffer said:

"a lot of my lower ones are blacks" isn't exactly empirical data either.

She was commenting on her class.  She doesn't need empirical data to observe her classroom dynamic.  She was not using her class to extrapolate some broader conclusion on the performance of black students in America.  It was an observation to a colleague about outcomes in her classroom that were troubling her.

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9 hours ago, djmich said:

She was commenting on her class.  She doesn't need empirical data to observe her classroom dynamic.  She was not using her class to extrapolate some broader conclusion on the performance of black students in America.  It was an observation to a colleague about outcomes in her classroom that were troubling her.

I didn’t use the term “empirical data”

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19 hours ago, glvsav37 said:

https://twitter.com/kmele/status/1370179801890222081/photo/1

....and her colleague suspended for failing to "correcting her" 

😳 so now just being involved In the conversation is liable to being suspended????

Remember tho. It's not real. It doesn't exist. It's all a alt-right conspiracy. I know this because it's said here!!

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