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1 minute ago, Yo Mama said:

My favorite non-Laker. Was hoping he’d fall a few more spots. 

Including his ABA years, he is an absolute 1st rounder in this draft.  Before Bird and Magic, there was Dr. J.

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12.14 Arvydas Sabonis C 90s Most of the richest people in Australia are in satellite communications. Without satellites, they wouldnt get no media Down Under, so they were on it early. 35 ye

Hey guys, my NBA interest started to wane with the ascension of MJ / decline of the Bad Boys. I don’t think I would be able to render quality judging in the remaining decades so I’m going to bow out.

Sorry guys. Probably won’t be able to do results today. One of my dogs has pretty bad cancer and isn’t doing too well. I need to take care of him today.    I’ll do the results tomorrow. 

2 minutes ago, wikkidpissah said:

#22 a decade ago, at his recency-bias nadir. good to see him regaining respect

I stole him in the 2nd round of that draft (but we ignored ABA in that one).

@scoobus is up.

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4 minutes ago, Jayrod said:

I stole him in the 2nd round of that draft (but we ignored ABA in that one).

yeah, careerism is always what pisses me off in alltime sportsdrafts (or HOFs). guys who had 2-3 year peaks (whether due to injury or not) lightyears ahead of mediocrities who get picked ahead of em cuz they stuck around forever. George Foster Syndrome, i call it.

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1.14 Shaquille O'Neal, C, 90's I think

Shaq, Diesel, The Big Aristotle, Superman, Shaq Fu.  Peak Shaq is as dominant a dude on the court as I've ever seen, a true physical specimen.  As good of a player on the court as he is bad on TNT.

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3 minutes ago, scoobus said:

1.14 Shaquille O'Neal, C, 90's I think

Shaq, Diesel, The Big Aristotle, Superman, Shaq Fu.  Peak Shaq is as dominant a dude on the court as I've ever seen, a true physical specimen.  As good of a player on the court as he is bad on TNT.

Argh, so close. 

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6 minutes ago, scoobus said:

1.14 Shaquille O'Neal, C, 90's I think

Shaq, Diesel, The Big Aristotle, Superman, Shaq Fu.  Peak Shaq is as dominant a dude on the court as I've ever seen, a true physical specimen.  As good of a player on the court as he is bad on TNT.

my pick @ 1.08 a decade ago

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1 minute ago, wikkidpissah said:

my pick @ 1.08 a decade ago

I may have taken him there in this draft as well if I was in that spot, definitely appear to be higher on him than others.

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9 minutes ago, scoobus said:

1.14 Shaquille O'Neal, C, 90's I think

Shaq, Diesel, The Big Aristotle, Superman, Shaq Fu.  Peak Shaq is as dominant a dude on the court as I've ever seen, a true physical specimen.  As good of a player on the court as he is bad on TNT.

I had him ranked #9, ahead of 5 guys who were drafted before him today.

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1 minute ago, wikkidpissah said:

my pick @ 1.08 a decade ago

Have we sort of re-assessed his career a bit over the last 10 years? Or did the house screw up today by not taking Shaq ahead of Olajuwon?

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15 minutes ago, scoobus said:

1.14 Shaquille O'Neal, C, 90's I think

Shaq, Diesel, The Big Aristotle, Superman, Shaq Fu.  Peak Shaq is as dominant a dude on the court as I've ever seen, a true physical specimen.  As good of a player on the court as he is bad on TNT.

My three were Bird, Duncan & Shaq after pick 6 was complete.  This was the debate for me when I took Duncan after Bird was taken.  

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19 minutes ago, Doug B said:

Have we sort of re-assessed his career a bit over the last 10 years? Or did the house screw up today by not taking Shaq ahead of Olajuwon?

he chose when he used it and how he used it. what he had to use was probably right there with LBJ & Wilt. beautiful feet for such a freak & on his hip was the worst place to be in the history of ball. he'd be feeding teeth to the most-imposing current-day big men if he chose to. his memory will also suffer the more spread the game gets.

 

 

ETA: if i were forming a team, i'd take Hakeem. if our children had guns to their head on the sideline by thugs who'd bet the game, Shaq Daddy.

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35 minutes ago, scoobus said:

He hasn't been on in 4 hours.  We may be waiting for a bit.

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1 hour ago, trader jake said:

1.09 Larry Bird - SF 1980's

Swapped draft slots to land The Hick from French Lick.  When you think of Larry Legend what comes to mind?  The steal and pass against the Pistons, his proclamation that everyone was playing for 2nd in the 3pt contest with him winning, finger aloft not even bothering to take off his warm up jacket, or one of his numerous highlight reel passes or shots?

Larry Bird was cold blooded when it mattered most on the biggest stages against other all-time players.  He put up ridiculous numbers on winning teams when defenses got away with all kinds of nonsense.  His passing skills would inject life into any offense, in any era, with any group of teammates and he's a matchup nightmare.  Plus he's the single best trash talker of all-time. #33

Bill Simmons calls this a top 5 all-time steal in All-Time NBA Drafts.

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27 minutes ago, wikkidpissah said:

i were forming a team, i'd take Hakeem. if our children had guns to their head on the sideline by thugs who'd bet the game, Shaq Daddy.

I like this.

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19 minutes ago, Bogart said:

Bill Simmons calls this a top 5 all-time steal in All-Time NBA Drafts.

The kind of steal that ranks up there with Dylan stealing Kelly from Brandon. 

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1 hour ago, higgins said:

1.13 -- Dr. J, 70's SF.

:fro:

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argh, we should make a rule that no more SIxers can be picked between now and pick 32. I was thinking of even trading down to get Dr. J around 10, absolutely love the guy.

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37 minutes ago, Bogart said:

Bill Simmons calls this a top 5 all-time steal in All-Time NBA Drafts.

Simmons blows. https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/larry-bird-and-dr-j-fought-it-out-garden-35-years-ago-today

My man should have ended Bird's career a few years earlier with a body slam through the announcer's table :boxing:. Needed a little more Mahorn and Laimbeer magic for that

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1 hour ago, Jayrod said:

I stole [Dr.J} in the 2nd round of that draft (but we ignored ABA in that one).

To ignore the ABA seems like an odd omission for that 2010 draft.  If interested, the book 'Loose Balls' by Terry Pluto is a great read about that league.

37 minutes ago, Bogart said:

Bill Simmons calls this a top 5 all-time steal in All-Time NBA Drafts.

Hell yeah he would. 😄 To land Larry Bird at 1.09 when Bill has him at #6 in his pantheon is just good value with the franchise players here.

6 minutes ago, modogg said:

Simmons blows. https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/larry-bird-and-dr-j-fought-it-out-garden-35-years-ago-today

My man should have ended Bird's career a few years earlier with a body slam through the announcer's table :boxing:. Needed a little more Mahorn and Laimbeer magic for that

Just another reason why Larry Bird is the man.  The Celtics were defending champions and that fight with Dr. J occurred after, "Bird had torched Erving and the Sixers for 42 points in 30 minutes (Dr. J had been held to six points) when an offensive foul call on Bird led to a scuffle that saw the benches empty and the two stars throw down."  So, basically, Bird was kicking Dr. J's ### and he didn't like it. :fro:  BTW - The Celtics also won that game 130-119. 

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7 minutes ago, timschochet said:

Shaq is the steal of the draft thus far. I think he’s top 5 for this draft. 

Thank you, Alan

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1 minute ago, Yo Mama said:

Everyone’s on board the draft jet, we’ve taken off at an incredible pace, we’re all buckling in for a long trip. 
 

Me in the sitting 16th spot

:lmao: Perfect!!

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2 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Just for future info, will there be a timer at some round?

Per the first post: 

"Clock will be 1 hour from 7am Pacific to 6pm Pacific (West Coast Bias), starting Monday 3/8."

So theoretically, @Kev4029 could hold us hostage until Monday, but I think we may do something if he doesn't check in by tomorrow morning.

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1 minute ago, Jayrod said:

Per the first post: 

"Clock will be 1 hour from 7am Pacific to 6pm Pacific (West Coast Bias), starting Monday 3/8."

So theoretically, @Kev4029 could hold us hostage until Monday, but I think we may do something if he doesn't check in by tomorrow morning.

Thanks. I should re-read those first few posts again lol

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7 minutes ago, Jayrod said:

Per the first post: 

"Clock will be 1 hour from 7am Pacific to 6pm Pacific (West Coast Bias), starting Monday 3/8."

So theoretically, @Kev4029 could hold us hostage until Monday, but I think we may do something if he doesn't check in by tomorrow morning.

I sent him a PM in case an email notification might help. 

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4 minutes ago, Yo Mama said:

I sent him a PM in case an email notification might help. 

I had as well.  He may not get email notifications or is stuck at work or he may be passed out drunk or even high as a kite right now.  Either way, I hope he is OK.

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28 minutes ago, Jayrod said:

I had as well.  He may not get email notifications or is stuck at work or he may be passed out drunk or even high as a kite right now.  Either way, I hope he is OK.

i think i see him on my lawn...

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1.15 Jerry West, G, 60s

The Logo. West made 14 All-Star teams in each his 14 years, 12 All-NBA teams (10 first team) - only missing out on in his first and last seasons, and the All-Defense team every year from it's inception to his second to last season. If not for Bill Russell and the Celtics being possibly the best dynasty in modern sports, we might remember Jerry West as a top 5-6 player rather than somebody on the fringe of the top 12. 

Sorry for the delay - you all moved a lot quicker than I thought and I was out of the office for half the day.

@Yo Mama

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7 hours ago, Frostillicus said:

1.06 PG/SF/PF Lebron James, 10s

I completely get all the arguments for the players taken before Lebron, it's part of the reason I wanted no part of pick #3 when I thought he'd go second. I actually dropped to 6 with the hopes of getting Magic. Obviously I'm thrilled to get who I consider the best player of all-time. He has the versatility to play multiple positions, slot into multiple eras, and fit in with just about anybody on the court. Yay me!

I'm gonna chirp from courtside. I was shocked he didn't go second. The others all have great cases, but damn...we're talking about greatness and longevity to boot, plus playing with athletes as big, fast, and as crazily athletic as the ones today, ones that span almost two generations while LeBron still LeBrons and is still, amazingly, one of the best at it by all accounts.

The King.

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6 minutes ago, Instinctive said:

Damn. I had some tiny shred of hope that he’d end up with me and I’d just lock up a decade. 

Nope, was hoping he’d be one of my two picks. Now I have to figure out what to do with my second pick. 
 

Just finished up a meeting, picks coming. 

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12 minutes ago, rockaction said:

I'm gonna chirp from courtside. I was shocked he didn't go second. The others all have great cases, but damn...we're talking about greatness and longevity to boot, plus playing with athletes as big, fast, and as crazily athletic as the ones today, ones that span almost two generations while LeBron still LeBrons and is still, amazingly, one of the best at it by all accounts.

The King.

I'm not necessarily surprised that he wasn't #2, although that is definitely where I would have taken him, I'm blown away he dropped to #6. The only argument I could really make not to take him ahead of Wilt and Russell is that in this format there are a lot of really good players from the 10s whereas the the 60s are very shallow. I don't think there is a real argument to make for Magic or Kareem (especially since Kareem's longevity is a bit diluted in this format). 

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9 minutes ago, Instinctive said:

Damn. I had some tiny shred of hope that he’d end up with me and I’d just lock up a decade. 

I was a bit surprised to seem him still standing. I probably would have preferred to take somebody more relevant to my BB watching days, but I think there is a fairly significant gap between West and the remaining more modern guys. I was hoping Shaq or Duncan was going to fall.

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Ok time for the easy pick. Yo Mama selects:

 

1.16 - Moses Malone - 70s C

“Chairman of the Boards”

 

The last of my top tier big men (1a Wilt/Kareem, 1b Shaq/Hakeem/Moses), and I need to take one here before the 100 picks between my next turn. Criminally underrated in the all-time discussions. He could fit well in either the 70s or 80s, so I’ll start with him in the earlier decade for now. 
 

Including ABA stats, Moses has 29,580 points (9th all time) and 17,834 rebounds (3rd all time). His career averages are excellent, but still lowered by his last number of years. In a 10 year peak from the mid 70s to mid 80s, Malone averaged 25.1 ppg, 14.2 rpg, 0.9 spg, and 1.5 bpg. 
 

1x Champ and Finals MVP

3x NBA MVP

8x All-NBA

12x NBA all-star, 1x ABA all-star

Led NBA in rebounding 6 times

 

Now for my harder decision. 

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44 minutes ago, Kev4029 said:

I'm not necessarily surprised that he wasn't #2, although that is definitely where I would have taken him, I'm blown away he dropped to #6. The only argument I could really make not to take him ahead of Wilt and Russell is that in this format there are a lot of really good players from the 10s whereas the the 60s are very shallow. I don't think there is a real argument to make for Magic or Kareem (especially since Kareem's longevity is a bit diluted in this format). 

Heh. I should have been clearer. Shocked is just my way of registering my affirmation for the pick at six and I really wasn't all that surprised that he fell. It's really just by way of a lack of better expression. As soon as I saw Wilt, I thought, "Yeah, definitely could see that given the rules of the draft where you're drafting decades, too." Magic, Russ, Kareem. All worthy of all-time greatness. And I'm a casual basketball fan, too. When people are really into something, they tend to make picks that surprise the casual observer. Cool draft. Wish I knew I more and could participate.

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A few different ways I can go here, but I’ll go with an older player since I’m not as solid with those guys. Yo Mama selects:

 

2.01 - Elgin Baylor, 60s SF

 

The Michael Jordan of the 60s.  Such an amazing player and athlete who did things on the court no one else could. It’s a shame there isn’t more footage to highlight his greatness. 
 

10x All-NBA (all first team)

11x All-Star

Appeared in 8 NBA Finals

Career averages of 27.4 ppg (with no 3s), 13.5 rpg, and 4.3 apg 

 

 @Kev4029

 

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23 minutes ago, Yo Mama said:

Ok time for the easy pick. Yo Mama selects:

 

1.16 - Moses Malone - 70s C

“Chairman of the Boards”

 

The last of my top tier big men (1a Wilt/Kareem, 1b Shaq/Hakeem/Moses), and I need to take one here before the 100 picks between my next turn. Criminally underrated in the all-time discussions. He could fit well in either the 70s or 80s, so I’ll start with him in the earlier decade for now. 
 

Including ABA stats, Moses has 29,580 points (9th all time) and 17,834 rebounds (3rd all time). His career averages are excellent, but still lowered by his last number of years. In a 10 year peak from the mid 70s to mid 80s, Malone averaged 25.1 ppg, 14.2 rpg, 0.9 spg, and 1.5 bpg. 
 

1x Champ and Finals MVP

3x NBA MVP

8x All-NBA

12x NBA all-star, 1x ABA all-star

Led NBA in rebounding 6 times

 

Now for my harder decision. 

 I took Moses 10th overall 10 years ago. One of the most underrated players in NBA history. He won three MVP awards around the time of Kareem, Bird and Magic.

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25 minutes ago, Yo Mama said:

Ok time for the easy pick. Yo Mama selects:

 

1.16 - Moses Malone - 70s C

“Chairman of the Boards”

 

The last of my top tier big men (1a Wilt/Kareem, 1b Shaq/Hakeem/Moses), and I need to take one here before the 100 picks between my next turn. Criminally underrated in the all-time discussions. He could fit well in either the 70s or 80s, so I’ll start with him in the earlier decade for now. 
 

Including ABA stats, Moses has 29,580 points (9th all time) and 17,834 rebounds (3rd all time). His career averages are excellent, but still lowered by his last number of years. In a 10 year peak from the mid 70s to mid 80s, Malone averaged 25.1 ppg, 14.2 rpg, 0.9 spg, and 1.5 bpg. 
 

1x Champ and Finals MVP

3x NBA MVP

8x All-NBA

12x NBA all-star, 1x ABA all-star

Led NBA in rebounding 6 times

 

Now for my harder decision. 

Somehow hoped he would slip through to me. That was probably stupid of me. Nice pick.

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2.02 Karl Malone, PF, 90s
First, Malone is a total turd of a human and I have no respect for the dude, but this is all for pretendsies. Malone was very arguably the second best player in the 90s, making First Team All-NBA for every year of the decade, plus a couple MVPS, and averaged 27.2 points, 10.7 rebounds and 3.7 assists for the decade while missing a total of three games over those 10 seasons. Probably not an all-time defender, but certainly a plus (4 All-Defense teams). He is 2nd all time in points, 3rd in rebounds, 12th in steals.

Baylor and M Malone would have both been my pick here if they weren't taken...

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1 minute ago, Kev4029 said:

2.02 Karl Malone, PF, 90s
First, Malone is a total turd of a human and I have no respect for the dude, but this is all for pretendsies. Malone was very arguably the second best player in the 90s, making First Team All-NBA for every year of the decade, plus a couple MVPS, and averaged 27.2 points, 10.7 rebounds and 3.7 assists for the decade while missing a total of three games over those 10 seasons. Probably not an all-time defender, but certainly a plus (4 All-Defense teams). He is 2nd all time in points, 3rd in rebounds, 12th in steals.

Baylor and M Malone would have both been my pick here if they weren't taken...

@scoobus

He was one of two guys I was thinking about taking instead of Baylor, but I just couldn’t stomach it.

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3 hours ago, trader jake said:

To ignore the ABA seems like an odd omission for that 2010 draft.  If interested, the book 'Loose Balls' by Terry Pluto is a great read about that league.

Hell yeah he would. 😄 To land Larry Bird at 1.09 when Bill has him at #6 in his pantheon is just good value with the franchise players here.

Just another reason why Larry Bird is the man.  The Celtics were defending champions and that fight with Dr. J occurred after, "Bird had torched Erving and the Sixers for 42 points in 30 minutes (Dr. J had been held to six points) when an offensive foul call on Bird led to a scuffle that saw the benches empty and the two stars throw down."  So, basically, Bird was kicking Dr. J's ### and he didn't like it. :fro:  BTW - The Celtics also won that game 130-119. 

yeah i never watched the whole game, but heard the whole story about the altercation. Of course that was when Dr. J was at the tail end of his career and had been in the NBA for like 18 years or so i think. Cue the '83 Sixers and we see a totally different story

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17 minutes ago, Frostillicus said:

Anyone have a link to that old draft?

Good call asking for it. Brings a question I was wondering about to mind. 
 

when judging occurs are we planning on how the team would look for an entire year or are we looking at how a player was throughout that decade. I saw Derrick rose go in like the 9th or 10th round and thought that was really high for him considering he has been injured for a long time. But if we are taking him for just one year near his peak, might be worth it 

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2.03 Kevin Garnett, PF, 00s I think

Trying reallllly hard not to take any 10s guys, as that's where most of my knowledge is. KG is one of, if not the, the fiercest competitors and best defensive players of all time.  Maybe one of the most underrated guys of all-time too by some, just landed in an awful situation in Minnesota for a majority of his career.  Even though I don't like the Celtics, was happy to see him win one, he deserved it.  Honestly think if him and Duncan had been put in opposite situations to start their careers you'd be seeing Garnett over Duncan in the all-time ranks, that's how close I think they were.

 

 

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