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Unsurprisingly I didn’t see a Kellen Winslow II topic, so (1 Viewer)

Motorcycle wreck, swollen balls and one of the least discriminate rapists I've ever heard about. Strange dude who for sure seemed to have black cloud over him.

 
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Did he play enough snaps for that? 

look, I’m one of the 1st to get on board with CTE, but let’s not make it a blanket excuse for the actions of a chronic F up like KWII. His shenanigans reportedly go back a-ways. 

he played 2 games before breaking his leg his rookie season, then missed his sophomore season due to the torn ACL from his motorcycle accident. 

he basically had 2 good seasons with the Browns before the staff infection. 

I’m skeptical his sexual assaults, burglary & drug charges were the result of CTE.

 
Did he play enough snaps for that? 

look, I’m one of the 1st to get on board with CTE, but let’s not make it a blanket excuse for the actions of a chronic F up like KWII. His shenanigans reportedly go back a-ways. 

he played 2 games before breaking his leg his rookie season, then missed his sophomore season due to the torn ACL from his motorcycle accident. 

he basically had 2 good seasons with the Browns before the staff infection. 

I’m skeptical his sexual assaults, burglary & drug charges were the result of CTE.
I agree he shouldn’t get a pass. But he has been playing football his entire life, so we can’t just count his NFL time for diagnosing CTE. Dude has probably been hit in the head thousands of times over his lifetime.

That doesn’t mean he’s also just not an #######.

 
I agree he shouldn’t get a pass. But he has been playing football his entire life, so we can’t just count his NFL time for diagnosing CTE. Dude has probably been hit in the head thousands of times over his lifetime.

That doesn’t mean he’s also just not an #######.
Right. I mean, you can have an outstanding human like Junior Seau who was a model citizen, did great charity work, loved children and was a beloved member of his community but contracted CTE.

then you’ve got KWIII, who was basically a D-bag. 

So whether he had CTE or not, KWiii was pretty much a DBag. 

I don’t discount the possibility - but it definitely doesn’t excuse his terrible actions. That seemed to be the implication of the post I’d quoted. 

 
I remember when he came out and a lot thought Washington would draft him...SO glad they drafted Sean Taylor instead....and while his death was tragic, we still got more from him in 3.5 seasons than what KWII did over his entire career. What a waste. 

 
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I agree he shouldn’t get a pass. But he has been playing football his entire life, so we can’t just count his NFL time for diagnosing CTE. Dude has probably been hit in the head thousands of times over his lifetime.

That doesn’t mean he’s also just not an #######.
Hit over the head or not, there has to something inside you that is evil to commit the despicable acts Kellen Winslow II has.  Something was off with him, dating back at least to when he was at Miami.

 
I recall when this all came out, former teammates piped up saying things like “nobody wanted to sit with KWII on the team plane because he never stopped watching porn.” Another added “for away games, nobody wanted to be hotel roommates with him because he would openly masterbate in front of them. Looking back, that was strange.”

 

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