GoBirds
Footballguy
Why would anyone riot if he got convicted?
I’m not one that understands the difference of degrees of charges but good to see this dummy held accountable.
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Derek Chauvin trial. Murder of George Floyd. Convictions now appealed. (3 Viewers)
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I’m not one that understands the difference of degrees of charges but good to see this dummy held accountable.
GoBirds
Footballguy
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Yep. And that contingent gets larger and larger each election. And as they get larger they'll get more dangerous to Democracy.
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IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
You haven't seen any rioting, but have you heard any? If not, the current riot must not be making much noise. A quiet riot, if you will.
kwille
Footballguy
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
djmich
Footballguy
the moops
Footballguy
I don't think they commented, for they were too busy spouting off on other nonsense
DC is completely dead tonight. People stayed in and were scared to go out because of fear of riots. Police are everywhere and have riot gear. #BLM is the strongest terrorist threat in our county.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Wondering where are all the folks in this thread that were sure there'd be riots and looting and destruction?
I mean, looks like they are around, but I don't think I've seen anything about "looks like I was wrong" or "glad to see that didn't happen".
I mean, looks like they are around, but I don't think I've seen anything about "looks like I was wrong" or "glad to see that didn't happen".
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gianmarco
Footballguy
djmich
Footballguy
I don't know who said this (and I'm guess not a leader in the republican party otherwise you would have indicated that), but
DC is completely dead tonight. TRUE
People stayed in and were scared to go out because of fear of riots. TRUE
Police are everywhere and have riot gear. I'd GUESS TRUE AND LOGICAL
#BLM is the strongest terrorist threat in our county. BLM HAS ITS ISSUES I THINK TERRORIST IS NOT THE RIGHT TERM
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Neither would I although I am not sure I would consider the perp in this case as a protestor. More of a punk just looking for trouble.
Bogeys
Footballguy
So did McConnell, but I think you would have a different opinion of how amazing he is.
I agree with Rock on her and add that that I think they are both the worst of what we send to Washington.
gianmarco
Footballguy
This goes back to my post yesterday. Or when someone passes, for example, and people are expected not to trample on their fresh grave. If you don't have anything nice or productive to say, just keep quiet, at least for a little bit.
After what happened yesterday, while the above may be true, pointing out the above seems to miss the point above. And the bolded is maybe true.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
I stated "was not sure if their would be one" Actually was hoping for calm but he was convicted on all 3 counts so there was nothing to riot about.
There are 3 more officers waited to go to trial in this case and I don`t think the outcome for all of them will be the same as the prosecutor even said "they were helpless to stop Chauvin" so at least 1 and maybe all will not be convicted and then Minny will have to be on full alert again.
djmich
Footballguy
I'm not following you. Nobody died yesterday...justice was done...what grave is being trampled on.
The reality is that the entire country was bracing for riots in the event the verdict didn't return what the rioters wanted. That is not good. Maybe you think that's ok, which is fine, but are you are you saying that can't be called out? Are you saying that should not be part of what we can or should talk about?
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Nothing. They said absolutely nothing. Their silence is deafening. But not remotely surprising.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
You asked for examples like there weren’t any incidents last night and I gave you one.
Agree, most of the “protesters” in Portland are punks.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I haven't been following very close, but it seems the fear that riots would happen was tied to an acquittal, right? Rioting and destruction after a clean-sweep guilty verdict would probably have been more in the nature of the - Eagles win the Superbowl - kind of thing imo. I do think some level of violence / destruction seems likely had there been an acquittal yesterday.
djmich
Footballguy
First Hit On My Search
You actually have a lot of positive reaction here from conservative leaning posters as well.
Why unnecessarily cast the reaction in a negative light...other than to simply deflect from the dumb statements of others?
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Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
Aren't you a Trump supporter? Didn't he just try to steal an election by falsely claiming voter fraud. And when that wasn't working he tried to get his VP to not sign off on the results.
I didn't think Democracy was as important to you as you are letting on.
FairWarning
Footballguy
gianmarco
Footballguy
Yes, but not by everyone here. The following were all after the guilty verdict came down. Plus a few others "liking" those posts.
I’ll get the popcorn ready for the riots tonight.
So out of curiousity....
What is the acceptable amount of arson, vandalism, burglary, and grand theft tonight before it crosses from "celebrating" into "criminal riots"?
Sounds loaded but is an honest question of those in here who have defended previous riots/burning/looting.
ETA: I haven't been following the case too closely so I accept the jury's verdict as fair assessment and distribution of justice
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Huh? I said nothing negative about the posters in here.
It’s nice to see a handful of Republicans - moderate folks who aren’t leaders in the party - speak out.
Meanwhile, this is what we hear from party leaders:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/ted-cruz-says-bidens-comments-122212699.html
Btw, in your own link Marjorie Greene Taylor:
"BLM has now proven itself to be the most powerful domestic terrorists organization in our country," Greene tweeted. "After Maxine Waters threats could there have been any other verdict?"
Zow
Footballguy
I think the issue is the gop wants to say the “system works” - as if it’s worked all along.
The other side feels “the system worked this time” and hopes there’s a path forward.
that’s part of what AOC was saying - although the Q collective just wants to knock her first and think about what she said never
Zow
Footballguy
I'm willing to give AOC the benefit of the doubt usually but I couldn't interpret her comments any other way than saying the system is still broken and that, in this instance, there still wasn't "justice" despite - by I think about any metric or lens - Chauvin received his consitutional due process (e.g. a timely jury trial, competent representation, etc.) and was convicted by what certainly seemed like a fair and impartial jury of his peers.
I'd be more sympathetic to her if she went with the "broken clock is right twice a day" analogy by acknowledging that the system worked here then attacking the more overarching issues with the system.
djmich
Footballguy
lol...Cruz calling out Bidens stupid comments...thats what you're saying the problem is???
djmich
Footballguy
Whats the system?
Policing...who is saying that doesn't need fixing.
Trial by jury...tell me what you fix in the trial process.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
This is the victory lap you're trying to take? My side didn't loot a bunch of innocent businesses last night so take that. Odd but you do you.
I wonder how many things you've gotten wrong on this board the last 4 years.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Does not matter if anyone here thought there would be riots. Minny officials called in 300 National Guard and hundreds of police from neighboring states. So they thought there was a good possibility.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Uhhh, I’m sure you know why it is a problem. Cruz is de-legitimizing the verdict, rather than saying “justice was served” or something similar to the other links you shared. Cruz knows exactly what he was doing. And yeah, it’s a problem. But you already know that.
The acquittal was the main driving force to a lack of violence, but I think this
also played a role. Had DC done the same, January 6 would have played out much differently, I think.
Zow
Footballguy
A colleague of mine put it pretty well yesterday when she said, "Yeah, I'd fully expects riots because it this act of police brutality doesn't result in a conviction, is there any scenario where an act would given the status quo of things?"
djmich
Footballguy
lol, you give me way to much credit...i didnt know that. I literally read the bullets of what you linked.
I'm sure Cruz is taking the opportunity to pile on Bidens comments...which is justified although you can say not necessary and typical dirty politics.
I'll have to go back and read the entirety to see if there is a read of he's looking to de-legitimize the verdict. You really think he wants it overturned? I'd hope not but frankly I don't think highly of Cruz or really any politician.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Lmao, right?
Not exactly sure how “the looters are sad today” means there will be looting either.
But whatever
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
I do give you credit - you seem like a smart person! I don't think Cruz wants the verdict overturned -- he's just a politician, being a politician, pandering to his base. But it is very dangerous to de-legitimize this outcome.
Piling on Biden, in general, is fair game.
PS - appreciate the civil discussion
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Mookie
Footballguy
Is there really a side that supports cops murdering unarmed civilians? I get the "support our cops because they protect us, do a dangerous job, and are mostly good people" viewpoint, but I cannot understand getting enraged because a dirty cop is convicted of murder. It seems we should all agree that murder of any kind is a bad thing.
massraider
Footballguy
Guido Merkins
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
All some people need is "this guy was passing a fake $20, was on drugs."
Then it's just a $5 cab ride to "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes"
They don't view it as taking the side of a murderer.
jm192
Footballguy
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/maxine-waters-biden-chauvin-verdict-comments-appeal
Interesting article. I doubt an appeal is going to be successful. In theory, the jurors are supposed to avoid the news and such, no?
But Waters and Biden probably shouldn't be commenting on things. The judge commented on it. Just a bad look, and if there is some avenue that it opens up an appeal for lack of fair trial/due process--what an absolute failure.
Interesting article. I doubt an appeal is going to be successful. In theory, the jurors are supposed to avoid the news and such, no?
But Waters and Biden probably shouldn't be commenting on things. The judge commented on it. Just a bad look, and if there is some avenue that it opens up an appeal for lack of fair trial/due process--what an absolute failure.
Sand
Footballguy
>Cruz said that Biden was providing "a possible basis on appeal to challenge any guilty conviction."
Not sure what's controversial at all about that comment. He's right. It is a possible basis. Biden commenting on the case before it was decided was class A dumb. Not as bad as the incitement to riot that Maxine engaged in, but still dumb.
Jeez - just keep you hands off of charged jury trials and let them work to come to a decision. The decision they ended up with was the right one, so why are they commenting and possibly contaminating the verdict?
