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Public Service Announcement: DVTs (Blood Clots) and Calf Pain (1 Viewer)

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Not typically one to talk about my health on the internet but figured this could actually help a fellow FBG one day.

TL; DR:  If you have calf pain and have been on a longish flight or car ride, don't screw around: get to the doctor.  And even if you haven't flown, be aware of the signs.  DVTs kill up to 100,000 Americans per year.

https://www.stoptheclot.org/learn_more/signs-and-symptoms-of-blood-clots/

About 4 years ago, maybe a week after getting back from vacation in the Caribbean, I started having pretty significant tightness in my left calf and just assumed it was over-exertion from running. I was limping around pretty badly for a couple of days at the office, taking a bunch of crap from the guys about it, before a much smarter female co-worker told me not to be an idiot and call the doctor.  Hearing that I had been on a flight recently, they told me to come in right away, immediately Dopplered my leg, and determined I had a DVT.  Luckily, none of the clot had dislodged and become a pulmonary embolism.  The doctors chalked it up to me running 5 miles in the Cayman heat and becoming dehydrated in the morning before getting on a plane.  The flight seemed a little short for a DVT to develop, but I didn't really question things.  I was put on blood thinners for 6 months and then told to stop.

Two years later, this time without a plane trip, I felt similar symptoms in the right leg, but with much worse pain.  Same drill as before, but this time it was a superficial clot - so no danger of an embolism but still disconcerting.  I was referred to a hematologist who ordered all sorts of genetic and screening tests, all of which came back negative.  The hematologist, an old German guy, just shrugged at the results and told me in a very matter-of-fact way: "Stop running - there's a reason you don't see guys your size putting in 40-mile weeks.  It's my belief the pounding has injured the veins in your legs."  For the record, at the time, I was 6' and 200 lbs., but I quit running.

In January of 2021, I bought a Peloton.  I had put on 20 lbs. during COVID and (not running) so wanted something to help push myself.  Four weeks in, after a particularly hard ride, I felt the tightness again.  Dumb me thought that I probably just overdid things, so gave it a day or two to rest.  On night two, the real pain kicked in so back to the doctor.  This time, it was even bigger DVT.  Immediately sent to a second hematologist, who told me I was especially lucky this go-around given the size and specific location.  He didn't really see the need for additional screening, and just told me that some people's body's do weird stuff and recommended me to be on blood thinners for life.  So I have that going for me.

Anybody else experience these things?

 
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Yep.  My DVT turned into pulmonary embolisms though.  My clot originated deep in a vein in my thigh.  Pieces broke off and moved up through my heart and into both of my lungs.  I didn't notice the thigh pain much at first because I was more focused on the fact it was becoming more difficult to breathe after the simplest activities.  The breathing got worse each day to the point where rolling over in bed had me out of breath, and I let it go for 4 days before I called the doctor (at the insistence of my wife) thinking I had covid or pneumonia.  So I spent 4 days in the hospital, 3 of them in ICU and am on blood thinners now for at least 3 months.  These things are not anything to be casual about.  They kill tens of thousands every year in the US.  The only thing the doctors could up with for a cause is I sit in a chair most all day for work and I wasn't getting up and moving around enough.

 
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Yikes.  Good luck with this -- I hope the new blood thinners work out.  Kind of scary to think about something like this developing from a hard bike ride.

 
last week my right calf was tight as hell for 2 days and i just chalked it up to dehydration cause i'd been drinking only beer, no water while on vacation

now i'm paranoid :unsure:  

 
Not typically one to talk about my health on the internet but figured this could actually help a fellow FBG one day.

TL; DR:  If you have calf pain and have been on a longish flight or car ride, don't screw around: get to the doctor.  And even if you haven't flown, be aware of the signs.  DVTs kill up to 100,000 Americans per year.

https://www.stoptheclot.org/learn_more/signs-and-symptoms-of-blood-clots/

About 4 years ago, maybe a week after getting back from vacation in the Caribbean, I started having pretty significant tightness in my left calf and just assumed it was over-exertion from running. I was limping around pretty badly for a couple of days at the office, taking a bunch of crap from the guys about it, before a much smarter female co-worker told me not to be an idiot and call the doctor.  Hearing that I had been on a flight recently, they told me to come in right away, immediately Dopplered my leg, and determined I had a DVT.  Luckily, none of the clot had dislodged and become a pulmonary embolism.  The doctors chalked it up to me running 5 miles in the Cayman heat and becoming dehydrated in the morning before getting on a plane.  The flight seemed a little short for a DVT to develop, but I didn't really question things.  I was put on blood thinners for 6 months and then told to stop.

Two years later, this time without a plane trip, I felt similar symptoms in the right leg, but with much worse pain.  Same drill as before, but this time it was a superficial clot - so no danger of an embolism but still disconcerting.  I was referred to a hematologist who ordered all sorts of genetic and screening tests, all of which came back negative.  The hematologist, an old German guy, just shrugged at the results and told me in a very matter-of-fact way: "Stop running - there's a reason you don't see guys your size putting in 40-mile weeks.  It's my belief the pounding has injured the veins in your legs."  For the record, at the time, I was 6' and 200 lbs., but I quit running.

In January of 2021, I bought a Peloton.  I had put on 20 lbs. during COVID and (not running) so wanted something to help push myself.  Four weeks in, after a particularly hard ride, I felt the tightness again.  Dumb me thought that I probably just overdid things, so gave it a day or two to rest.  On night two, the real pain kicked in so back to the doctor.  This time, it was even bigger DVT.  Immediately sent to a second hematologist, who told me I was especially lucky this go-around given the size and specific location.  He didn't really see the need for additional screening, and just told me that some people's body's do weird stuff and recommended me to be on blood thinners for life.  So I have that going for me.

Anybody else experience these things?


My sister-in-law had a large clot in her leg after a long drive from DC to upstate New York.  Turns out she has a genetic condition called factor five Leiden and needs to be on blood thinners as well.  My wife is a carrier, but has not had clotting issues.  But we put her on bloodthinners during her pregnancies as we couldn't really explain all the miscarriages she had when we first started trying.  

EDIT:  The downside, of course, is that I'm now the world's worst baby and hypochondriac about any calf pain whatsoever.  Any time I complain about being sore, my wife is like "you're worried you have a clot, aren't you."  And I am!

 
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SteevieG said:
Yep.  My DVT turned into pulmonary embolisms though.  My clot originated deep in a vein in my thigh.  Pieces broke off and moved up through my heart and into both of my lungs.  I didn't notice the thigh pain much at first because I was more focused on the fact it was becoming more difficult to breathe after the simplest activities.  The breathing got worse each day to the point where rolling over in bed had me out of breath, and I let it go for 4 days before I called the doctor (at the insistence of my wife) thinking I had covid or pneumonia.  So I spent 4 days in the hospital, 3 of them in ICU and am on blood thinners now for at least 3 months.  These things are not anything to be casual about.  They kill tens of thousands every year in the US.  The only thing the doctors could up with for a cause is I sit in a chair most all day for work and I wasn't getting up and moving around enough.
Glad you identified it early.  All the best! 

This is very similar to my story. My clot originated in my left calf.  I dealt with it for months. My wife (now ex) basically forced me to go to Emerg after I played a round of golf and was absolutely gassed.  I was about 38 then (56 now) and in pretty decent shape.  Speaking of Covid, or Pneumonia, when I had my symptoms it was during the original SARS outbreak in 2003/04. After ruling out me having SARS , they identified it pretty quickly as a pulmonary embolism and started giving me shots of Fragrin to quickly deal with the clot in my lungs. I was fortunate to have not waited much longer because my poor heart was working overtime. Still take warfarin daily. After 6 months they had me go off it to see if I would get a clot again and I did within about 2 weeks so I'm a lifer.  get my INR checked every 6 weeks, or so, now.  

IN my case the testing revealed I have this thing called Factor V Leiden in my blood that makes me more susceptible.  It' hereditary apparently and my mom has it but from what she was told she's a carrier. 

It's not so bad getting blood work every six weeks and I've been lucky that my INR is very stable so my meds have hardly changed at all in 18 years. One nice side effect is that I used to get migraines - maybe 1 every 2 weeks - and I almost never get them after going on Warfarin.  I know it's not a coincidence since in that period where they took me off to see if I got a new clot, I got a migraine within about 3 days. 

Thanks for bringing this up.  it's easy to ignore and I think males tend to think "it's nothing".  Hell, I could barely breath after walking up 6 steps and I was still too stubborn to go to the hospital.  

ironically,  that day of golf was actually one of the best rounds I ever had  :excited: .

 
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SteevieG said:
Yep.  My DVT turned into pulmonary embolisms though.  My clot originated deep in a vein in my thigh.  Pieces broke off and moved up through my heart and into both of my lungs.  I didn't notice the thigh pain much at first because I was more focused on the fact it was becoming more difficult to breathe after the simplest activities.  The breathing got worse each day to the point where rolling over in bed had me out of breath, and I let it go for 4 days before I called the doctor (at the insistence of my wife) thinking I had covid or pneumonia.  So I spent 4 days in the hospital, 3 of them in ICU and am on blood thinners now for at least 3 months.  These things are not anything to be casual about.  They kill tens of thousands every year in the US.  The only thing the doctors could up with for a cause is I sit in a chair most all day for work and I wasn't getting up and moving around enough.


Damn, man.  That's really rough.  Good luck - hope that's the only one you ever get.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
Yikes.  Good luck with this -- I hope the new blood thinners work out.  Kind of scary to think about something like this developing from a hard bike ride.
Who knows if it really came from a bike ride - the doctors kind of just chalk it up to coincidence when I point out that all three clots came after hard exercise (the peloton one was after an FTP test).  Even the first one can likely be chalked up to flying after a dehydrating run in the tropics rather than just exercise itself.  Still, googling will get you scary DVT articles written by elite runners (of which I am most definitely not) who typically developed symptoms after flying home from a race.

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
My sister-in-law had a large clot in her leg after a long drive from DC to upstate New York.  Turns out she has a genetic condition called factor five Leiden and needs to be on blood thinners as well.  My wife is a carrier, but has not had clotting issues.  But we put her on bloodthinners during her pregnancies as we couldn't really explain all the miscarriages she had when we first started trying.  

EDIT:  The downside, of course, is that I'm now the world's worst baby and hypochondriac about any calf pain whatsoever.  Any time I complain about being sore, my wife is like "you're worried you have a clot, aren't you."  And I am!
I feel ya, Scoob.  I was never a hypochondriac, but now I'm convinced that I'm dying (especially when I wake up at 2 am and can't fall back asleep).  I came up negative when they tested me for Factor V, which instead of reassuring me, makes me all the more certain that I have one of the other rare and deadly conditions that can lead to ideopathic clots.

 
Heluva story.  Thanks for sharing.  I'm on Eliquis, which doesn't require testing or dietary changes.  Probably no point in switching if Warfarin works for you but so far Eliquis has been a cinch.
I recall after a year or three my specialist mentioned a medication that didn't require blood work.  Since my INR remains steady and I was relieved of the migraine problem I stayed with it.  I was never told to change my diet, just keep it fairly consistent.  Greens can greatly affect the levels but if you continue to eat similar amounts it's fine. So I still eat near zero :lol: .

Good luck and thanks for starting this thread !

 
How old are you?

Would you say you typically slack on drinking enough water?

Best of of luck in the future and thanks for posting. 

 
How old are you?

Would you say you typically slack on drinking enough water?

Best of of luck in the future and thanks for posting. 
I'm 58 and know for sure I don't drink nearly enough water.  When I got home from the hospital I drank a lot of water but I have slowly reverted back to my old ways.  Thanks for the reminder.  

 
going through similar right now

Have asthma, but got much worse this summer.
Dr thought it might be COPD, but meds not helping.
Pulse Ox hovering around 92-93 constant 
Having chest tightness, so they did CT and Echo, both came back fine
Chest X-ray fine
Going now for blood work to see if I'm anemic 

But we just drove back from Baltimore (5+ hours) this weekend and the next day I had pain in my right leg. Seem to have subsided, but dealing with a lingering pain in my groin. Grrrr, I guess I gotta go for the ultrasound now. 

getting old sucks 

 
Glad you identified it early.  All the best! 

This is very similar to my story. My clot originated in my left calf.  I dealt with it for months. My wife (now ex) basically forced me to go to Emerg after I played a round of golf and was absolutely gassed.  I was about 38 then (56 now) and in pretty decent shape.  Speaking of Covid, or Pneumonia, when I had my symptoms it was during the original SARS outbreak in 2003/04. After ruling out me having SARS , they identified it pretty quickly as a pulmonary embolism and started giving me shots of Fragrin to quickly deal with the clot in my lungs. I was fortunate to have not waited much longer because my poor heart was working overtime. Still take warfarin daily. After 6 months they had me go off it to see if I would get a clot again and I did within about 2 weeks so I'm a lifer.  get my INR checked every 6 weeks, or so, now.  

IN my case the testing revealed I have this thing called Factor V Leiden in my blood that makes me more susceptible.  It' hereditary apparently and my mom has it but from what she was told she's a carrier. 

It's not so bad getting blood work every six weeks and I've been lucky that my INR is very stable so my meds have hardly changed at all in 18 years. One nice side effect is that I used to get migraines - maybe 1 every 2 weeks - and I almost never get them after going on Warfarin.  I know it's not a coincidence since in that period where they took me off to see if I got a new clot, I got a migraine within about 3 days. 

Thanks for bringing this up.  it's easy to ignore and I think males tend to think "it's nothing".  Hell, I could barely breath after walking up 6 steps and I was still too stubborn to go to the hospital.  

ironically,  that day of golf was actually one of the best rounds I ever had  :excited: .
Pretty similar story.

11/3/2009.    Two clots in my lungs. Over 100 in my right leg.   Turned out to be some hereditary thing as I have to be on warfarin for life.

INR has been stable for ten years now.  To the point that I don't always get it every month and doctor gets pissed at me.

I had 90 percent blockage in my lungs when it happened. Saw the pics six months later.  Was on bed rest for the first 4-5 months. Could barely walk to bathroom and back w/o feeling like I did a marathon.   It took years to slowly get better.

Now I can bike on a flat service with no issues.  Can do about 10 flights of stairs before getting winded. Moved 4 months ago and have a pool now. Have been upping my lap number just about every week.     It left my lungs with a severe case of seasonal bronchitis.  AC blowing all night in a Vegas hotel room can make me very sick the next day. So I turn it off at nights.    

If I remember correctly, I also have Factor Five.   They never knew home my dads mom passed away in the late 40's when he was 18.  Pretty sure this was it now.

 

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