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This is like the Deshaun Watson story. It will lock the media and Twitter brigade up like a right handed slap hitter when he sees a Mariano Rivera cutter. It puts their two narratives in conflict.
But will he get to play sports with the race he identifies with seems to be the question...
It's what Twitter trended when the Syrian-born man shot up the grocery store in Boulder. Twitter was lit with people, including Kamala Harris's relatives, quipping they were tired of "angry white men" shooting up things because they were sure the perpetrator was white.
I was kidding about the 'angry white guy' thing, BTW. I just figured it was appropriate given the situation.
Gotcha. The story is calling this a hate crime and there are pictures of the guy and he’s clearly black.
Oh, I'm focused on more than that. It just seemed this angle was relevant to the PSF given the things we discuss and the identity politics that go along with the mainstream media.
Some of the Twitter reactions to this stuff I can imagine are no bueno.
I honestly dont understand how anybody with an internet connection could ask this question.
I tried looking at a bunch of stats last week, and didn't come across that. My interpretation of his statement was that most were black-asian hate crimes.
There is video or photo evidence of so many recent attacks. It isnt hard to spot the trend.
why is so hard to link things? I was looking around this week after Atlanta, and mostly what I found was general hate crime stats that I talked about with another poster, which was a mix. I saw another random study from England that skewed heavy white when the crime was based on race, but didn't find much from US that extrapolate stats when race was the motivation for the hate crimes.
I don't link things anymore in the PSF. It's up to the user to find it now. Because there are so many bad faith requests for links that chase people down rabbit holes only to have to argue minutiae about the point that it's not worth it. It's caveat emptor in my political subforum world, GB. People are more than able to discount what I say if that's the case, but I'm not hunting down links for the likes of certain people who will remain nameless because of their insistence on moving goalposts and digging in like terriers when a link is provided.
I didn't say that. It's become a hard and fast rule of mine to not provide links to anybody because I won't provide them to a few. Makes my life easier.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7790522/
main thing that comes up when I search is the fbi page on hate crimes that has general stats, but again didn't see a breakdown like I wanted. oh well.
Lots of people doing awful things in the face of stressors. One does wonder what is wrong with people. I always prefer to look at the sunnier side of things, but the past year (perhaps stressors of my own) have made me a real pessimist about how people act. It's really disheartening, as you said.
There have been a number of high profile videos showing African-American attackers, so I don’t really understand the assumption that the attackers are all white. Is that truly a widely held assumption, or are people just assuming that it’s a widely held assumption when in fact it may be more of a vocal minority who aren’t familiar with the details? I don’t know. But I can tell you that the people I know in the Asian community are aware that the hate is coming from a diverse group.
Because in all the articles you read, one rarely sees the race mentioned. If it was a white attacker, one knows it would be. It's a media criticism. Some people, like KP, are even unaware though they've been paying attention to the attacks and actively looking.
Seems unwarranted, unless there’s a lot more to this story. Asian hate crimes are still perpetrated by whites predominantly - unsurprising since they make up the majority of the population. While African Americans may be over represented in this sub segment, it’s not like other hate crimes are perfectly distributed according to race of perpetrator. The guy in the video sure looks black, and I haven’t seen anything suggesting otherwise, so the implication that whites are being unfairly singled out (and AA given a pass) doesn’t make a whole lotta sense.
The whole thing is disgusting for sure. It’s a hard video to watch honestly, made my heart hurt.
It is good that anti-Asian violence is getting more attention. The woke crowd (tweeter universe, the mainstream media, sports leagues) have framed the issue as Trump lead white supremacy and they are very vocal when the perpetrator is white. When it becomes more apparent that these acts against Asians are in most cases hard to pin on white supremacists, it will be interesting how diligent the woke crowd remains in this. IMHO, if the story does not support their anti-white narrative, it is a non-story to the woke universe.
When I see instagram posts from prominent asians promoting solidarity with african americans, that says that this is a white problem. The posts aren't asking blacks to stop attacking asians, they are saying blacks and asians have to unite in their resistance to hate from whites.
Thank you for that link. Eye opening for sure. Like I said, most of what I saw was general stats, or a few articles about the uptick in hate crimes vs Asian Americans.
I think your posts on various philosophical ideas are thought provoking, even when I disagree, and I imagine your political philosophies would be as well. I hope you reconsider this rule. It helps to see the information forming opinions, regardless of poster.
So, for the past four years the left/msm has been brainwashing everyone about how Trump and generally non woke white people made US a terrible country and driving massive white extremism (sorry no links for those people living under rocks). Is it possible that they have created hate? When every day entire populations of people are told how repressed they are. How much danger they are in!!! How white people hate them. How Asians are taking up all the seats in good schools in NYC. How Georgia just brought Jim Crow back. On and on and on
What I have been trying to find is if there is further breakdown of those stats to maybe see even more what might be going on. Those were the type of stats that I was referring to with RA and why I was asking about a link to what he was seeing. In the bolded, it's "hate crimes" in total - but I was curious if there were differences between the types. Ie - that includes crimes based on race, sexual preference, religion, and gender. Do those 52/24% hold up unviversally, or they change with those types? Also, I still haven't found an answer to that remaining 15% (unknown) and how that fits in.
I am not that old but I never ever heard the term "white supremacy" until recently. Have never heard it used once in my day to day life by anyone of any race. Only hear it on the news and by a handful of political speakers..
Well said.
I think that data is there, don't have it handy. I do recall that about 40% (or maybe it is 60%)...either way a large porportion of hate crimes (which are a small number to begin with) are non physical.
The politicians on the right suck (who are really the flag bearers). Some of their policy sucks.
First of all, let me address the actual situation. This was clearly a hate crime as shown by the audio and with multiple kicks to the head like that, that women easily could have been killed. This man needs to be held accountable and thrown in jail.
I don't like the "hate crime" thing..at all.
Are they? The stats that were in this thread earlier only speak to assaults against asians, but those were an almost even split. Where is the data that hate crimes against asians are predominantly white offenders?
