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How much maintenance is needed for a drop box?
I don't know but it sure isn't making sure the elections are more secure, which is what the new law is allegedly for
You're tweaking words a bit here, I said maintain and that's a bit different from maintenance. I'm not talking about painting & repairing. I'm talking about monitoring, poll workers having to go to each box and collecting the ballots etc. The state of Georgia assume that, now that we are coming out of the pandemic, most people will go back to in-person voting. I feel like that's a fair assumption based on how I feel about it. So I think it's a fair assumption as well that the drop box usage will go down drastically as well. Keep also in mind, we don't know what the numbers were for usage even during the pandemic. It may be a situation where they had too many even then. Who cares what they do with the other boxes? Sure, put them in storage and replace ones that need repair with the one in storage.
Fewer boxes to monitor and secure doesn't make it more secure? If you've got 20 people to secure drop boxes. Which would be easier to secure, 100 or 20?
Reducing the number of boxes and moving them indoors does make the more secure, whether you admit it or not.
One party tends to riot and turn a blind eye to lawlessness. Would anyone put it past the left to tamper with drop boxes left unprotected in historically Republican voting areas? I certainly would not.
Are Democrat voters not allowed inside buildings now or incapable of travelling a couple more miles now? Are they incapable of putting an envelope in a mail box or handing it to their postman?
We've had mailboxes on every corner of our cities for decades. Yet they're secure. The dropbox I used was very similar to a standard corner mailbox. Was there any evidence these boxes weren't secure? Again, it seems like we're trying to solve problems that don't exist.
Because they moved them indoors, drop off boxes are no longer 24/7 in Georgia making it harder for people who work during the day to drop off their ballots.
Dropbox laws didnt exist at all until now. They could have simply went back to pre-pandemic voting.
Less places to maintain and keep secure. If there are going to be less people voting by mail as estimated, why have that many out there if they're not needed.
Why would you go back to the pre-pandemic voting process that resulted in less people voting? Unless you want less people to vote...
Then the Braves should get a say. You just can’t strip them of it, well I guess you can.
Exactly, and GA had a record turnout and people loved it without issue. So why are changes necessary?
This argument is so disingenuous it's not even funny. It's not even close to being difficult or impossible to vote by mail in Georgia. Anyone who did it before and still wants to, there is plenty of opportunity to do so and it appears to be very simple.
Tim knows!!
A bit odd. The black man that was quoted for the story didnt mention any of that....I assume because he has no proof it actually happened. Im glad we have an insider here at the FBG!
Not just the availability & security, but also steps to improve voter confidence in the system. I think that's a big aspect that a lot of people are missing. A lot of people, rightly or wrongly, are losing confidence in the validity & security of our election process. We shouldn't have issue with states taking measures to try to quell those concerns as long as it doesn't take away our ability, which these laws do not seem to do at all. Anyone who was capable of voting in the last election is still capable of voting in the next election & by the same means they prefer.
I believe Georgia placed their drop boxes in places where they could be monitored by city cameras. I doubt those cameras were put up specifically for the drop boxes and I doubt they would have taken them down once the election was over.
One party? The one that crashed the Capitol?
A point I forgot to include. You literally can't go anywhere in a city without being on a security camera. Hell, they may even be *more* secure out on the streets than locked in a building we can't monitor.
no way Braves move their games - too much money involved
Maybe this:
Lol. No I don’t have a crystal ball. I know what’s obvious, though. If every black driver on the freeway was getting off at a certain exit, and suddenly you passed a law that closed that exit five days a week and restricted the other two days to those with a special sticker on the car, I would naturally assume that you’re trying to keep black people from using that exit. I wouldn’t need to be in the room to make such an assumption.
Exactly. We had record voter turn out. The only reason to go back and not forward is because you want less people voting.
There were a great many who didn't believe the voting laws pre pandemic were "working". You're starting with a faulty assumption if they are to be believed. The answer for leaving them in place is, ironically, the same answer for why the GOP wants them removed and that is "because they are more convenient making it easier for more people to vote". I am absolutely confident that if Georgia left in place voting by mail and addressed some of the issues they ran into rather than just scrapping it, within a cycle or two many MORE than 1.3 million would be voting by mail.
So you’re just going to ignore the elements that were in my post that make it easier for all drivers including black ones to get off at the exit?
Hey GB....did you happen to listen to Florida Round Up on March 26th? This interview tells you all you need to know for the "why" behind the changes.
There's that, and then there's a whole extra layer of "Who are you actually even arguing with?" added on. I haven't followed this super-closely, but has anybody actually claimed that drop boxes are bad as a matter of principle? I don't mean "Drop boxes are costly to maintain, the marginal cost of the last drop box exceeded the marginal benefit, and therefore we should have fewer of them," I mean "We should abolish drop boxes altogether because . . . . "
It's like when a group passes a 98 page bill because they didn't like the results of an election, and people ignore every part of it except presenting an ID.
