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https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2021/04/08/biden-announces-new-executive-orders-on-gun-control/amp/
Surprised this didnt get a thread. It's been awhile since we've had a president openly oppose the Constitution. Most just dance around it but Biden is going right at it.
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"No amendment to the Constitution is absolute,” Biden maintained, pointing to the famous Supreme Court ruling that you can’t yell fire in a crowded theater as part of the First Amendment’s free speech clause.
“You can’t yell … ‘fire’ in a crowded movie theater and call it freedom of speech. From the very beginning, you couldn’t own any weapon you wanted to own. From the very beginning that the Second Amendment existed, certain people weren’t allowed to have weapons. So the idea is just bizarre to suggest that some of the things we’re recommending are contrary to the Constitution,” he said."
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Right off the bat, both of these are wrong. The fire in a crowded theater line was never a legal decision. It was analogy made during WW1 to defend convicting an anti war protestor of espionage. It was overturned in 1969 stating that inflammatory speech IS protected by the first amendment as long as it isn't a call to violence. So no, yelling fire in a crowded theater is not prohibited by the First amendment.
Second is that citizens have been allowed to own all kinds of weapons since the beginning. If they could afford it, regular citizens could own canons, rifles and other military grade weaponry during the revolutionary days. Over the years the state laws have been put in place to curtail certain types of weapons and attachments but it is a false assertion that the 2nd amendment never allowed all kinds of weapons for the populace to own. It was about being able to defend one's self not if the government would allow you to defend yourself.
This is the kind of dangerous rhetoric I thought people were against based on the last 4 years. Unilaterally creating executive orders that directly contradict the constitution without even gaining the consent of Congress to do so is the kind of thing we heard was really bad right? So what changed?
Surprised this didnt get a thread. It's been awhile since we've had a president openly oppose the Constitution. Most just dance around it but Biden is going right at it.
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"No amendment to the Constitution is absolute,” Biden maintained, pointing to the famous Supreme Court ruling that you can’t yell fire in a crowded theater as part of the First Amendment’s free speech clause.
“You can’t yell … ‘fire’ in a crowded movie theater and call it freedom of speech. From the very beginning, you couldn’t own any weapon you wanted to own. From the very beginning that the Second Amendment existed, certain people weren’t allowed to have weapons. So the idea is just bizarre to suggest that some of the things we’re recommending are contrary to the Constitution,” he said."
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Right off the bat, both of these are wrong. The fire in a crowded theater line was never a legal decision. It was analogy made during WW1 to defend convicting an anti war protestor of espionage. It was overturned in 1969 stating that inflammatory speech IS protected by the first amendment as long as it isn't a call to violence. So no, yelling fire in a crowded theater is not prohibited by the First amendment.
Second is that citizens have been allowed to own all kinds of weapons since the beginning. If they could afford it, regular citizens could own canons, rifles and other military grade weaponry during the revolutionary days. Over the years the state laws have been put in place to curtail certain types of weapons and attachments but it is a false assertion that the 2nd amendment never allowed all kinds of weapons for the populace to own. It was about being able to defend one's self not if the government would allow you to defend yourself.
This is the kind of dangerous rhetoric I thought people were against based on the last 4 years. Unilaterally creating executive orders that directly contradict the constitution without even gaining the consent of Congress to do so is the kind of thing we heard was really bad right? So what changed?
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Bomb on a plane is not the same as fire in the theater. 
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