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It's appeared to me, lately, that you can't escape the relentless politicization of everything. From HR diversity camps (at work) to sports Twitter (at play), we can't get away from the political. The political as a personal thing has become ever-present in everything we do. And there's never an honest discussion about the issues with reasoned opinions. There is only one acceptable answer, and that is of the original sin of existing. Where religion was once front and center in the public square, now politics pervades every pastime, every reach out into the world. We've become so obsessed with the securing of individual "rights" through identity politics that the playbook is omnipresent. But here's the thing: We get it.

Your (Group X) feels marginalized or beaten down in some (Adjective Y) way because of (Action Z). The pointing to the entire system of things is a convenient way to charge everything with (Animus A) towards (Group X). It allows for relentless harping and scolding, never mind the subtle lectures lurking around every corner, including that of entertainment. It also allows for people who want a different system to provide cover for communists, anarchists, and socialists to lurk within their ranks and "#### up the system" with a nebulous righteousness that taxes our democratic norms. This is neither beneficial for the country nor for individuals.

The sad thing is, most people don't need the constant grievance lecture. I certainly am aware of many (Action Zs) affecting (Group Xs), I just either agree with the status quo, think the charge is erroneously leveled, rank order it very low on my scheme of daily things, or just plain old don't ####### care.

So from the internet to Twitter to entertainment to family to sports, please ####### spare me your grievance lecture.

That is all.

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you're all being played. ever since MadAve & electronic media discovered that outrage is as effective as sex in priming the human pump for receptiveness to marketing, we've become ever more "polit

It's appeared to me, lately, that you can't escape the relentless politicization of everything. From HR diversity camps (at work) to sports Twitter (at play), we can't get away from the political. The

1 minute ago, -fish- said:

Am I supposed to know what a grievance lecture is?

It's when you're asked to have a dialogue that turns into a monologue, for starters.

But that's only a sufficiency, not a necessity.

A grievance lecture is anything where an aggrieved group, either in the arts, or in media, or in other forms of entertainment, or at work, or at home on television, or within families, decides to undertake the cause on behalf of (Group X) against (Action Z) and desperately needs your help either as ally or advocate or even passive listener. It's the constant politicization of interactions that should be otherwise personal and limited to individual concerns and constraints.

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1 minute ago, rockaction said:

It's when you're asked to have a dialogue that turns into a monologue, for starters.

But that's only a sufficiency, not a necessity.

A grievance lecture is anything where an aggrieved group, either in the arts, or in media, or in other forms of entertainment, or at work, or at home on television, or within families, decides to undertake the cause on behalf of (Group X) against (Action Z) and desperately needs your help either as ally or advocate or even passive listener. It's the constant politicization of interactions that should be otherwise personal and limited to individual concerns and constraints.

That sounds like an awfully broad definition, and somehow completely lacking of self-awareness.

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2 minutes ago, rockaction said:

It's when you're asked to have a dialogue that turns into a monologue, for starters.

But that's only a sufficiency, not a necessity.

A grievance lecture is anything where an aggrieved group, either in the arts, or in media, or in other forms of entertainment, or at work, or at home on television, or within families, decides to undertake the cause on behalf of (Group X) against (Action Z) and desperately needs your help either as ally or advocate or even passive listener. It's the constant politicization of interactions that should be otherwise personal and limited to individual concerns and constraints.

So if I'm understanding this right, a grievance gesture is something like....this thread.

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Just now, FreeBaGeL said:

So if I'm understanding this right, a grievance gesture is something like....this thread.

only if the side you don't want to listen to is liberal.  otherwise it's righteous indignation.  

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Just now, quick-hands said:

If you were watching bongino talk to geraldo on hannity just now.   You'd know.

Who are three people that I'd never spend a minute of my life listening to?

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Just now, quick-hands said:

I think its when you act like you are talking to someone and they are just waiting for you to shut up so they can talk again to finish their monolougue.

So it's like marriage?

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Just now, quick-hands said:

Relax.   Nobody is looking to fight with you.    Why so hostile?

It was a jeopardy joke.   You find that hostile?

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20 minutes ago, FreeBaGeL said:

So if I'm understanding this right, a grievance gesture is something like....this thread.

No, I'm not asking you to devote your cause and allegiance to anything. I'm willing to leave perfectly well alone even if I disagree. I'm not really affecting anybody. It's perfect that sho nuff likes your quote. I love it. The ninny of ninnies doesn't like that I don't want to hear his lecture.

I simply want your politics out of my immediate sphere. I don't like them, don't agree with them, don't want to be bound by their demands.

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21 minutes ago, -fish- said:

only if the side you don't want to listen to is liberal.  otherwise it's righteous indignation.  

No, it's a specific set of complaining about -isms arising from the exact same people who complain about every -ism in the world. It's the grievance hustlers, large and plenty, profiting off of the system and unsuspecting and very suspecting donors.

It's Radical Chic and Mau-Mauing The Flak Catchers come to life in every corner of your life.

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1 minute ago, rockaction said:

No, it's a specific set of complaining about -isms arising from the exact same people who complain about every -ism in the world. It's the grievance hustlers, large and plenty, profiting off of the system and unsuspecting and very suspecting donors.

It's Radical Chic and Mau-Mauing The Flak Catchers come to life in every corner of your life.

And when it's the right complaining about it?

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Just now, -fish- said:

And when it's the right complaining about it?

It's the same grievance festival that needs a healthy dose of get the #### out of my life.

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1 minute ago, rockaction said:

It's the same grievance festival that needs a healthy dose of get the #### out of my life.

just without a hint of self-awareness.

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This is why music is the best. Sure, there are artists who talk about politics, and plenty who sing about it, but there is so much out there that it is easy to avoid if you don't wanna hear about it. 

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It's everyone from the Bill O'Reillys of the world to the Chris Cuomos.

For every Aubrey Huff there's a player's union looking to outstupid and out-harangue him.

For every Brie Larson, there's a Jon Voight.

For every Mel Gibson, there's, I don't know, some stupid atheist somewhere.

Spare. Us. Your. Grievances. Grab a stiff upper lip like the Irish used to and grin and bear it a bit.

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Just now, -fish- said:

just without a hint of self-awareness.

Oh, it's too close to The Truth to be self-aware. That's the grievance fest of the scorned Christian, unable to raise his kids in our democracy.

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We used to be able to get away from it with sports, tv and movies. Over the last 6-10 years that has completely gone away. There's been a consistent deliberate effort to undermine our culture. Where once looked at as a strength for America (sports and entertainment) they're now seen as just another forum for political agendas. 

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10 minutes ago, -fish- said:

just without a hint of self-awareness.

You missed his point and he missed yours.

he saying the right can go F off with their grievances...consistency

you’re just trolling about him having a grievance...hahaha u so funny 

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And every time something happens at a local level, we are, as a nation supposed to collectively pause and atone for the wrongdoing. Enough. Allow localities to govern themselves. If there isn't fair representation at the local level, agitate locally for change or move. There's no need for my peeps in New York to have the same sort of governance that Baltimore does. And that's okay. Certain places have differing pasts, different textures, different flavors. So long as basic rights are secured, then we should be okay. The primary redress should be through the legislature.

Invoking the twenty-four media news cycle into our immediate lives about otherwise local issues is dangerous. It hyper-politicizes and nationalizes every issue, many of which shouldn't be national. It drains the populace, half of whom don't share even remotely the values of the woke, twenty-four hour news media, a media always looking for clicks from their coverage of the grievance lectures.

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1 minute ago, djmich said:

You missed his point and he missed yours.

he saying the right can go F off with their grievances...consistency

you’re just trolling about him having a grievance...hahaha u so funny 

It was gotten, just completely ignored. That's what the left wants. Charges of hypocrisy if you fight for your right to be left alone. I give it no truck.

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7 minutes ago, fatguyinalittlecoat said:

Having to hear about other people’s suffering is the worst suffering of all.

Man, I didn't die for man's sins.

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Just now, Desert_Power said:

And most started here lately.

No, I think we should just shut up and just keep posting the usual arguments that have extended from the harangues that keep interrupting our daily lives. It's always a solid look.

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12 minutes ago, DaVinci said:

Oh how I long for the days when one could publicly exercise racism, sexism, and other forms of discrimination without dissent! :swoon:

Define those. Make it as ambiguous, as far-reaching, and as pernicious to society as the grievance hustlers do and you're well on your way to being a budding Bolshevik.

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1 hour ago, rockaction said:

It's when you're asked to have a dialogue that turns into a monologue, for starters.

But that's only a sufficiency, not a necessity.

A grievance lecture is anything where an aggrieved group, either in the arts, or in media, or in other forms of entertainment, or at work, or at home on television, or within families, decides to undertake the cause on behalf of (Group X) against (Action Z) and desperately needs your help either as ally or advocate or even passive listener. It's the constant politicization of interactions that should be otherwise personal and limited to individual concerns and constraints.

Aren’t you just dressing up cancel culture?

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1 hour ago, rockaction said:

It's appeared to me, lately, that you can't escape the relentless politicization of everything. From HR diversity camps (at work) to sports Twitter (at play), we can't get away from the political. The political as a personal thing has become ever-present in everything we do. And there's never an honest discussion about the issues with reasoned opinions. There is only one acceptable answer, and that is of the original sin of existing. Where religion was once front and center in the public square, now politics pervades every pastime, every reach out into the world. We've become so obsessed with the securing of individual "rights" through identity politics that the playbook is omnipresent. But here's the thing: We get it.

Your (Group X) feels marginalized or beaten down in some (Adjective Y) way because of (Action Z). The pointing to the entire system of things is a convenient way to charge everything with (Animus A) towards (Group X). It allows for relentless harping and scolding, never mind the subtle lectures lurking around every corner, including that of entertainment. It also allows for people who want a different system to provide cover for communists, anarchists, and socialists to lurk within their ranks and "#### up the system" with a nebulous righteousness that taxes our democratic norms. This is neither beneficial for the country nor for individuals.

The sad thing is, most people don't need the constant grievance lecture. I certainly am aware of many (Action Zs) affecting (Group Xs), I just either agree with the status quo, think the charge is erroneously leveled, rank order it very low on my scheme of daily things, or just plain old don't ####### care.

So from the internet to Twitter to entertainment to family to sports, please ####### spare me your grievance lecture.

That is all.

Yes you can, it’s very easy. You seem to be seeking out political crap that bothers you. Try not doing that. 

You’re welcome.

PS - I didn’t read beyond the bolded.

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Just now, The Dude said:

Aren’t you just dressing up cancel culture?

Eh. Not really. I'm talking about the reach and prevalence of it, down to the minutiae of our every day lives.

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1 minute ago, Zigg said:

Yes you can, it’s very easy. You seem to be seeking out political crap that bothers you. Try not doing that. 

You’re welcome.

PS - I didn’t read beyond the bolded.

I didn't decide to make football political and about voting rights, but everybody else did. I wasn't trying to "Lift Every Voice," but the league was.

That's just one example in a litany of entertainments turned political.

There are families that can't even figure out how to stop a virus from spreading because how it is contracted and spread has become something that people take sides about, inspired by our political leaders.

I didn't search out this crap. We've been on stay-at-home orders for the better part of a year in CA because of biological politics. It's gotten pretty intrusive and omnipresent, I'd say.

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When it's work, and it's your "diversity" training, you have little recourse for an opt-out. This ####, once corporations got a hold of it in the biggest CYA/lawsuit avoidance ever, were going to pass this on to their employees in the form of mandatory understanding and behavioral retraining.

This should strike people as annoying, at best, possibly infantilization at worst. 

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You whine too much. I’ve watched a fair bit of draft coverage without a peep of politics. You seek it out to whine about the left. This is a 100% your choice. 

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Just now, Zigg said:

You whine too much. I’ve watched a fair bit of draft coverage without a peep of politics. You seek it out to whine about the left. This is a 100% your choice. 

I don't seek out anything. It's omnipresent in the NFL. My Twitter feed, composed of NFL journalists and fantasy guys, tends to run the political meter at least at lukewarm.

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3 minutes ago, rockaction said:

When it's work, and it's your "diversity" training, you have little recourse for an opt-out. This ####, once corporations got a hold of it in the biggest CYA/lawsuit avoidance ever, were going to pass this on to their employees in the form of mandatory understanding and behavioral retraining.

This should strike people as annoying, at best, possibly infantilization at worst. 

Blissful Ignorance towards real challenges is worse

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19 minutes ago, timschochet said:

You’re wrong and I’m sick of it. 

I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore.

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5 minutes ago, rockaction said:

When it's work, and it's your "diversity" training, you have little recourse for an opt-out. This ####, once corporations got a hold of it in the biggest CYA/lawsuit avoidance ever, were going to pass this on to their employees in the form of mandatory understanding and behavioral retraining.

This should strike people as annoying, at best, possibly infantilization at worst. 

Maybe a better response is this is born out of the need to reverse the influence of prejudice that permeates America.  And leads to a great deal of our problems

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8 minutes ago, timschochet said:

My daughter is playing me Olivia Rodrigo right now. “Deja Vu”. It’s not bad. 

Caterwauling

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2 hours ago, rockaction said:

It's appeared to me, lately, that you can't escape the relentless politicization of everything. From HR diversity camps (at work) to sports Twitter (at play), we can't get away from the political. The political as a personal thing has become ever-present in everything we do. And there's never an honest discussion about the issues with reasoned opinions. There is only one acceptable answer, and that is of the original sin of existing. Where religion was once front and center in the public square, now politics pervades every pastime, every reach out into the world. We've become so obsessed with the securing of individual "rights" through identity politics that the playbook is omnipresent. But here's the thing: We get it.

Your (Group X) feels marginalized or beaten down in some (Adjective Y) way because of (Action Z). The pointing to the entire system of things is a convenient way to charge everything with (Animus A) towards (Group X). It allows for relentless harping and scolding, never mind the subtle lectures lurking around every corner, including that of entertainment. It also allows for people who want a different system to provide cover for communists, anarchists, and socialists to lurk within their ranks and "#### up the system" with a nebulous righteousness that taxes our democratic norms. This is neither beneficial for the country nor for individuals.

The sad thing is, most people don't need the constant grievance lecture. I certainly am aware of many (Action Zs) affecting (Group Xs), I just either agree with the status quo, think the charge is erroneously leveled, rank order it very low on my scheme of daily things, or just plain old don't ####### care.

So from the internet to Twitter to entertainment to family to sports, please ####### spare me your grievance lecture.

That is all.

One of your better Rock de la Nuit’s.  👍

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