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I'd love to hear the GOP healthcare plan, infrastructure plan, and immigration reform. Unfortunately only the Dems have offered anything tangible. The GOP needs to give me something to consider. Real policy. Otherwise, why should I vote for them, they're against everything.
Pretty much. The thing that really sucks is that Trump being Trump...he's not going to pick a candidate who has the potential to outshine/out Alpha him......so we're going to be left with a cycle or two of top ticket boot lickers; candidates who have to play the cuck to Trump to get his support.
I don't think any of these things are being discussed seriously by the democratic party besides maybe universal healthcare. Even then the democrats chose Biden as their nominee, who was the furthest right on this issue of all the candidates.
I hear all this criticism of Biden's infrastructure plan and I think, ok give me an alternative. Don't just block this one, debate it, amend it, show me YOUR plan to contrast with it. They may have a point, but I'd never know it because I haven't seen it.
Fair enough but it went into super overdrive cokehead reality tv mode at that point. I overlooked and laughed at it because I didn’t take the possibility of Trump seriously until 11pm on election night and even then I thought something still might change. That result was a huge wake up call to how different the Republican party in reality to what I viewed it.
I heard there there was a big, beautiful healthcare plan* from the Republicans.
If the last 6 months didn’t make people realize this was all one big grift, then nothing will.
I was hoping for more context. Not from you; from them. I get that it's difficult though. Cause centrist casts such a wide net and the pools that make it up are constantly changing. And I think in our system ultimately that is part of the 'problem.' The Trump cult and the progressive wing are both loud and like-minded, so it's easier to start there then see how much you can veer from it without losing them.
I have fault with this logic and I always have. Just because the dems have introduced something doesn't automatically make it good because it has been introduced and the republicans have not. That's just weak logic.
Candidly, this is a great way to govern. ETA, if we combine it with someone that is willing to leverage the political system masterfully, then we could get this #### show back on track.
Super weak. If you introduce the only pile of #### it is still, after all, a pile of ####. No one likes a pile of ####. And the simple fact it's the only pile of #### doesn't mean it's the best pile of #### ever either.
OK, give me the GOP alternative. I've seen the Dems plans, give me a reason to consider a GOP candidate besides "I'm against what their planning". The GOP had 2 years of total control. Where's their healthcare plan? Their infrastructure plan? Give me something besides keeping people out.
Unless the GOP gives me an alternative, it is the best I have to consider.
Negative. Sounds like you'd rather have a pile of #### because you think it's your only choice. It's not. You have two choices: the pile of #### in front of you or NOT the pile of #### in front of you.
At least they’re trying. I’d rather someone try and fix a hole in the wall even if they don’t have all the materials than just decide it’s better kick a larger hole in the wall, set the wall on fire, and then make fun of the person trying to fix it.
It’s the equivalent of me offering seven different dinner options to my wife, and getting nah every time. At some point, I’m ####### ordering sushi.
I don't think there is any plausible outcome other than their internal polling showed that they need the Trump cult to win. This left the party with two options - placate them and do what's necessary to maximize wins right now or shove them off the plank and accept losses now then reform for later.
Something needs to be done about our healthcare, whether you like the Dem proposals or not. Our prices are still skyrocketing. We desperately need infrastructure plans. Show me the GOP plan. Doing nothing is not an option any longer.
I think you are missing the point. I'm saying, just because the republicans have not offered a plan, that does not automatically make the democratic proposal the one to choose. It could be lousy as well.
Easy to throw stones when you have nothing to offer. If the Dems were pulling that move you’d hear about the do nothing democrats 24/7.
Right now, the Dem's plan is the only one on the table. Why can't the GOP give me an alternative? Show me a reason to vote GOP besides "Dems bad".
No ones throwing stones. Just saying that just because you're offered the only choice at the moment doesn't mean you have to accept it because it's still a TERRIBLE choice. Like Obamacare.
Ok..I'm going to try this a third time. After I repeat myself again, I'm gonna move on.
I think what is being said is the Republicans do have a plan, it’s a plan to denigrate whatever Democrats propose. That’s not productive. Instead of coming up with anything of substance, they just ##### and moan. I keep hearing about these plans. Trump had all these plans for healthcare, he was just never ready to talk about them. It was complete garbage, a shell game.
I never said it was an automatic yes. We used to have a functioning government where a bill was introduced then we had bi-partisan compromise and amendments to get something passed. OK, the Dems infrastructure bill has flaws. Now we need to work to improve it. We need Republicans to offer solutions too.
Can’t tell if you’re joking or not, but if the leader of your party spends his time banging porn stars while his 3rd wife is pregnant, you don’t get to play the family values card.
I will happily consider the GOP alternatives. Show them to me. Otherwise, the GOP is nothing more than obstructionists with no real reason for me to vote for them.
What could demonstrate a dedication to family values more than having three families? That is like triple my family values.
Hmmm..Well based on the % of single family homes in the black community(which we all know vote mostly democrat) I' not seeing a strong dedication to family values with that party either.
I always thought it was weird when Romney tried to attack Obamacare, despite how closely it resembled his own health care bill. There is plenty of space to criticize the fiscal policies of democrats, but you have to articulate a serious alternative. IMO, the GOP hasn't really been able to do that since about that time.
Family values was a BS made-up term. Regardless, your post is borderline racist at best, and at worst... you can decide.
lol superfly jimmy snuka stuff right there
Good, so we are on to something. I'd love to see a well thought out plan by the right for these things. I'd likely disagree with them, but at least it opens the door to negotiation.
Odd take considering Mitt Romnney will turn 78 years old shortly after taking office
Reminds me of this board. Posters who spend the majority of their posts talking about other posters...criticizing them and their opinions. But rarely taking a stance or offering an opinion of their own.
I get that, but you have to admit that Biden really does seem to be past his expiration date in a way that's not really the case for people like Romney, Warren, and probably Sanders. And I say that as somebody who gets up everyday happy that Biden won the primaries and general.
