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*** OFFICIAL 2021 NFL Draft Thread *** (3 Viewers)

Mister CIA said:
Hoping I get a big last hurrah from Mostert. Best possible outcome for me.
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Honestly might wanna sell now. 

He’s gonna hit some home runs so long as he’s healthy, but the Niners only struggles on the ground were in short yardage.

I suspect Sermon will be 1-2 and short yardage. Mostert & Gallman will be used as well, and all 3 can catch? 

Just seems pretty crowded. It’s a gamble, but Mostert’s value could drop like a rock if they come out featuring Sermon 60/40 (everyone else) 

 
Andy Dufresne said:
Mostert just turned 29. Wilson's okay but not much more.

Sermon just feels like what the 49ers have been looking for.
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True, but let’s not put Mostert out to pasture - dude was busting 80 yard TDs like it was cool, and Wilson was way more than OK last year. AND they brought in Gallman who quietly put up strong numbers for a terrible Giants offense. 

like I said - long-term I like it. 2022 stud. 2021 is probably a RBBC 

 
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Denver gets Williams who i liked in the 3nd and now Meinerz in the 3rd, i thought Miami might go Williams and Meinerz for our 2nd round picks, we were picking right after Denver after they moved ahead of us. 

 
Spike said:
Like the Pats draft except I thought 2 4ths was too steep to move from 46 to 38. 
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But if you would have asked if Barmore was worth two 4th rounders before the draft I think most people would say yes. I would be over the moon if I were a Patriots fan with this draft(in combination with the FA haul).

All the day 3 picks are going to be wild this year with so much disruption in the scouting process. If ever there was a year 4th rounders would be worth less and 7th rounders would be worth more than usual this is the season. 

 
Andy Dufresne said:
Okay. Now I really am here just for @BassNBrew 's reaction to the Panthers' pick. This one should be a doozy.
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Sorry...fell asleep.  Looks like we took some TE who can't catch.  That's doesn't seem like a smart move.  Also 6'3" and 241 lb.  That's the size of guy the BYU OT we drafted dominated against.  The upside of this pick is that we'll save salary cap space in 4 years when we don't have to worry about wanting to re-sign him.

Tremble is known as a great blocker on the edge, but not a great pass receiver. He had only 35 catches for 401 yards and four TDs in his two seasons at Notre Dame
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After that it looks like the new GM continued his approach to trade down again.  I think we've effectively traded away all our picks for 30 UDFA picks.  

 
Andy Dufresne said:
Mostert just turned 29. Wilson's okay but not much more.

Sermon just feels like what the 49ers have been looking for.
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yeah this is Sermon's backfield now

caustic said:
Wouldn’t mind if everyone let Tylan Wallace fall to the Chiefs at 144.
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Yeah there are still some good WRs left out there and some RBs that FF will hate going to really good spots. I feel like this is close to perfect. And my Bears got Fields. And #### Urban Meyer. But I'll live with the James Robinson torpedo if Chark wins leagues this year.

 
Through 2 days I'd say Miami has had the best draft overall. New England for teams without a bunch of extra picks.

Worst draft I'd say the LA Rams overall. Green Bay among teams with a normal amount picks.

 
travdogg said:
Through 2 days I'd say Miami has had the best draft overall. New England for teams without a bunch of extra picks.

Worst draft I'd say the LA Rams overall. Green Bay among teams with a normal amount picks.
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For me so far:

Saints and Rams have had the worst drafts

Chargers, Patriots, Chiefs, and Bears have had the best drafts

Giants and Raiders had terrible Day 1's but great Day 2's.

Cowboys and Lions had great Day 1's, but terrible Day 2's

 

 
Deamon said:
For me so far:

Saints and Rams have had the worst drafts

Chargers, Patriots, Chiefs, and Bears have had the best drafts

Giants and Raiders had terrible Day 1's but great Day 2's.

Cowboys and Lions had great Day 1's, but terrible Day 2's

 
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I liked the Levi Onwuzurike pick a lot, the second DT not so much. But at 938 pounds I think we're leading the draft in weight through the first three picks.

The Syracuse corner is long and strong, could develop into a very good player. Plus we now have five Nigerians on defense.*

I wouldn't mind if we address the expansion roster WR room and the worst LB corps in the league - per PFF and my eyeballs that's not even close to hyperbole for the latter - on Day 3, but we're in full tank mode so there might be some 3D level chess to their methodology. 

*admittedly I have no idea what that means

 
BobbyLayne said:
I liked the Levi Onwuzurike pick a lot, the second DT not so much. But at 938 pounds I think we're leading the draft in weight through the first three picks.

The Syracuse corner is long and strong, could develop into a very good player. Plus we now have five Nigerians on defense.*

I wouldn't mind if we address the expansion roster WR room and the worst LB corps in the league - per PFF and my eyeballs that's not even close to hyperbole for the latter - on Day 3, but we're in full tank mode so there might be some 3D level chess to their methodology. 

*admittedly I have no idea what that means
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Ya, Detroit's Day 2 wasn't TOO bad I guess.  I was honestly just searching for another team to add to the "Good Day 1/Bad Day 2"  category and they seemed to fill it the best over anyone else I found.  Overall they've had a good draft, mainly carried by their A+ first round pick.

 
Either the following are going to be starting RBs in the NFL and have significant fantasy value... or a rookie RB taken in the 4th round or later is going to have significant value on these teams:

ATL: Mike Davis, Cordarelle Patterson

NYJ: Lamical Perine, Tevin Coleman

MIA: Myles Gaskin, Salvin Ahmed

ARI: James Conner, Chase Edmonds

Let's say Michael Carter or Kenneth Gainwell goes to any of these four teams in R4 - they could still potentially start, right?

 
Miro Z said:
Either the following are going to be starting RBs in the NFL and have significant fantasy value... or a rookie RB taken in the 4th round or later is going to have significant value on these teams:

ATL: Mike Davis, Cordarelle Patterson

NYJ: Lamical Perine, Tevin Coleman

MIA: Myles Gaskin, Salvin Ahmed

ARI: James Conner, Chase Edmonds

Let's say Michael Carter or Kenneth Gainwell goes to any of these four teams in R4 - they could still potentially start, right?
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Potentially.  But by drafting a RB later on......it seems like these 4 teams all intend to have a veteran as the starting RB at least for week 1.   

 
Alex P Keaton said:
Potentially.  But by drafting a RB later on......it seems like these 4 teams all intend to have a veteran as the starting RB at least for week 1.   
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Right, but if Carter/Gainwell were to go to ATL or NYJ in particular, you'd have to think they had a decent shot of a timeshare in RBBC from week 1 and potentially a starting gig later on in the year?

 
Miro Z said:
Right, but if Carter/Gainwell were to go to ATL or NYJ in particular, you'd have to think they had a decent shot of a timeshare in RBBC from week 1 and potentially a starting gig later on in the year?
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I mean, James Robinson was the starter last year.  So sure, it could happen.

 
Miro Z said:
Either the following are going to be starting RBs in the NFL and have significant fantasy value... or a rookie RB taken in the 4th round or later is going to have significant value on these teams:

ATL: Mike Davis, Cordarelle Patterson

NYJ: Lamical Perine, Tevin Coleman

MIA: Myles Gaskin, Salvin Ahmed

ARI: James Conner, Chase Edmonds

Let's say Michael Carter or Kenneth Gainwell goes to any of these four teams in R4 - they could still potentially start, right?
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I still think those two are 3rd down backs/specialists and they're even less coveted than something closer to a prototypical RB. I'm wondering if Jefferson, Hubbard or Hill get selected into one of these spots. I would agree that this pattern shows none of these rookie RBs are that highly regarded, but these backfields are wide open for competition. 

Maybe there will be another wave of vet movement but all 4 of these teams are ready for someone new to come in and claim the job. It could easily be one of these later rookie RBs, despite the lack of capital. I just don't think Carter or Gainwell are those guys, even though I do like them both. We'll see. 

 
Miro Z said:
Either the following are going to be starting RBs in the NFL and have significant fantasy value... or a rookie RB taken in the 4th round or later is going to have significant value on these teams:

ATL: Mike Davis, Cordarelle Patterson

NYJ: Lamical Perine, Tevin Coleman

MIA: Myles Gaskin, Salvin Ahmed

ARI: James Conner, Chase Edmonds

Let's say Michael Carter or Kenneth Gainwell goes to any of these four teams in R4 - they could still potentially start, right?
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I’d add Seattle to the list. I like Carson but they need more behind him. Cincy could draft someone too, there’s not much behind mixon. Carolina could add a back behind cmc. Dallas maybe. There are lots of spots where various backs could get enough touches to be relevant.

 
barackdhouse said:
I still think those two are 3rd down backs/specialists and they're even less coveted than something closer to a prototypical RB. I'm wondering if Jefferson, Hubbard or Hill get selected into one of these spots. I would agree that this pattern shows none of these rookie RBs are that highly regarded, but these backfields are wide open for competition. 

Maybe there will be another wave of vet movement but all 4 of these teams are ready for someone new to come in and claim the job. It could easily be one of these later rookie RBs, despite the lack of capital. I just don't think Carter or Gainwell are those guys, even though I do like them both. We'll see. 
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Ok, but there are many NFL backs who were initially pigeon-holed as 3rd down backs and ended up as starters, Alvin Kamara most obviously. The most frequent comp for Carter is Dion Lewis, but even he had a couple seasons when he carried the load.

 
Miro Z said:
Ok, but there are many NFL backs who were initially pigeon-holed as 3rd down backs and ended up as starters, Alvin Kamara most obviously. The most frequent comp for Carter is Dion Lewis, but even he had a couple seasons when he carried the load.
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I don't disagree. And I think when you factor in height, a lower weight can be deceivingly stout. Like MJD. Carter and Gainwell are right there at that edge. I think they get drafted early today, *and* I think they *can* be starters. I just don't think it's going to be to an NFL team that wants to do that. If they are that good then maybe the cream rises. But if there is an obvious incumbent starter in front of them, then I'm not seeing it. Those 4 teams don't fit that criteria so yeah if we see Atlanta or NYJ take one of these guys it will absolutely get my attention. I just doubt it as I sit here at this moment is all. 

 
Dr. Octopus said:
And Corey Davis - sorry for an untimely reply.
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Yeah - I’m hoping they offer Crowder to the Niners, as he seems like the redundant piece - but the Niners may just wait for the Jets to cut him. As I understand they’ll save $10M+ in cap space. 

If the Niners want him that is. I think he’d be a perfect fit for what they do - they have Aiyuk & Debo, and Crowder would bring a completely different (and missing) skill set to the table. 

 
Hot Sauce Guy said:
Yeah - I’m hoping they offer Crowder to the Niners, as he seems like the redundant piece - but the Niners may just wait for the Jets to cut him. As I understand they’ll save $10M+ in cap space. 

If the Niners want him that is. I think he’d be a perfect fit for what they do - they have Aiyuk & Debo, and Crowder would bring a completely different (and missing) skill set to the table. 
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Would be an excellent fit for the Pats as a slot guy.

 
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