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Would you feel better if they were independent? They just didn't show up they were elected. Maybe there is a growing movement in this country. What would you do if there was? If in the next few years there are 125 socialist members of Congress and create a third party.
It's a free world? Maybe it's time to find another non-socialist country to live in?
Yeah, I know. That's the point.
Or maybe the socialists go move to the country of their choice? I would even be on board if our government would even foot the bill for their one-way trip.
? Not sure what you’re laughing at here. Sho’s 100% correct* with the part you bolded.WTH?
No...it really is the GOP that has moved to the extremes. FromQ in Congress to Trump in the oval
Just the usual hoping for a reaction from those who have told him point blank they wont ever respond to him.
Q people is a cute made up name by the libs. Hell, AOC would easily be the equivalent on the left. His post was laughable, as usual
I would agree that most are using it to clearly troll, but not all, imo. I was mostly speaking to a larger group, though, that uses it off this site. The point was more that insurrection is kind of hard to top in the extremist category.
You’re so all over the place on this issue you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. If you did, you would know the differences between democratic socialism and pure socialism, and between socialists and communists. And you still can’t name a single policy proposed by Biden that is socialist (because there isn’t one.)
And yet you're the one complaining about it so the ball is in your court to move away from what you don't like here.
Agree, not much you can do since they were voted in. 71 is enough to start affecting policy.
Of course they matter. So we're back to asking for examples of socialist policies that a good number seem to be terrified of.
Typically, we have "less" regulation on business and "more" on individuals with the GOP in charge. Look at whats going on right now. A ton of new regulation around voting. In the tax bill most everything for individuals was temporary while for corporations got permanent provisions. In our state we have a ton of new regulation telling business what they can/cant do in terms of the pandemic (the exception). We have new regulation telling us whats allowed in terms of protest etc.
You’ve been posting endlessly for years about people that are here illegally.
If you think the flip of socialist is a Nazi then I can see how we will never see eye to eye. Wouldn't the flip of a socialist be a libertarian?
Oof! Yes, it was the Socialists who saved us from Communism.
No, it wouldn't. Socialism/Marxism/Communism are all in the same boat. So, yes, the flip of a Socialist IS a fascist. In fact, they all also have elements of fascism to boot.
Actually, it's in your court to move.And yet you're the one complaining about it so the ball is in your court to move away from what you don't like here.
The Republicans don't like Delta, don't like Coke, don't like baseball, didn't like wearing masks in the middle of a pandemic despite science and common sense stating it was the best solution for slowing the virus down (instead we get mask-less rallies and suggestions to drink disinfectants, and POTUS caught lying on the Woodward tapes).
Don't like upgrading our out dated infrastructure, but love dictators (ex. Putin) around the world, don't love Democracy (hence the insurrection on the Capitol) and recounting ballots 6 months after a free election that was confirmed as the most secure in history by the Trumps head CIA and stated by his top DOJ official.
And that's all the tip of the iceberg.
Trump said it himself, if I lose to sleepy Joe I'll have to move to another country and yet he's still here and so are you. But then again he's a pathological liar, narcissist, Terrorist-In-Chief who couldn't transfer over power peacefully, and who was surrounded by a corrupt and crooked administration.
And oh yeah...I'm still WAITING for his replacement healthcare plan to Obamacare he had 4 years to come up with!
And there it is...lump socialism and the supposed 71 in the Democratic party in with communism. Now throw in fascism as well.
Not even close. Where are you coming up with this stuff? Communism and Fascism are not Democratic.
Similar to the 71...repeat it enough so it becomes reality. Repeat and get communism in people's minds enough that they equate any socialistic idea as communism.
Oof, this is correct. Look up the names Alexander Dubcek and Lech Walesa, the Solidarity Union in Poland. Read about the Berlin Airlift on 1948, the Hungarian Uprising of 1956, Prague Spring in 1968, amd the final collapse of the Soviet Union in 1989. You will discover that in all of these instances, the Democratic socialists (also called “Social Democrats”) were our allies and the key figures in the fight for freedom from the oppression of communism. Yes they saved us, and we saved them; it was a mutual effort.Oof! Yes, it was the Socialists who saved us from Communism.
Exactly what my BIL does. In normal times he works odd jobs for his brother who owns a construction type business. Right now, he's making more than the work he was getting so he's getting paid to stay home.
So @BladeRunnerI just don’t understand your line of thinking here. Here you love a comment that says 71 people in congress are affecting the direction a party is headed. Yet in another thread you’re saying Trump has no power over a party when almost everyone in that party supports Trump. These two things just don’t lineup at all. How can one thing be influencing a party when the other (which has far more support within the party) doesn’t?
Ronald Reagan worked with socialists in Eastern Europe in order to defeat the Soviet Union, men like Lech Walesa, and gave them great credit. Yet another reason that Reagan was an outstanding leader who bears no resemblance to the current conservative movement that, as @BladeRunner is demonstrating, has no knowledge of history.
This was played out big time during the Bush era. They just kept repeating Saddam Hussein, Iraq, and 9/11.
A new season of podcast Slow Burn is out about exactly this. It’s a fantastic and fascinating listen.
The only skewed version is the one you're regurgitating.
You ever heard of the Congressional Progressive Caucus? Yeah, those ones. The ones that are aligned with the DSA. Started by none other than Bernie Sanders!
Your argument has nothing to do with what I wrote. The folks who fought Soviet Communism in Eastern Europe were mostly Social Democrats, ideological kin to the Democratic Socialists of Bernie Sanders. That is absolutely a fact.
At the risk of you telling me I have no knowledge of history (extreme condescension at its finest) , I'll disagree with this.
Stretching 'socialism' to fit your intended, absolutely correct assertions is disingenuous at best.
A country rarely goes from the Soviet brand of socialism to complete capitalism immediately.
My definition of socialism is much more finite than yours.
Socialism hasn’t saved America or anywhere. Socialism is a bad set of ideas. But you’re combining progressivism with socialism with Communism and it’s not accurate:The only skewed version is the one you're regurgitating.
Socialism saved America (it didn't) so now we must embrace Socialism. Is that what you're telling me?
I doubt it’s more finite than mine, Would you agree with me that Bernie, AOC and the rest who call themselves Democratic Socialists are not really socialists, since they don’t have any desire to abolish capitalism?
As mentioned. There are only 5 DSA members in Congress. I'm not sure where the 71 comes from? Maybe in all government (regional level included)? But saying 71 sounds a lot more scarier I guess. Lets not let facts get in the way.
71 members of the CPC. Actually, I think it's 75. 5 Members of the DSA is 5 that weren't there in 2016, btw.
You had better be specific here: what proposals is the CPC in favor or that are essential to socialism?
