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Faust
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Malik Willis’ Official Wonderlic Score Is Reportedly Out
NFL Draft Rumors: Malik Willis Blowing Away Coaches, Execs During Combine Meetings
Malik Willis, former Liberty QB, gives NFL combine gear to homeless woman
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Malik Willis on viral video of him helping someone in need before combine workout
NFL Draft Rumors: Malik Willis Blowing Away Coaches, Execs During Combine Meetings
Malik Willis, former Liberty QB, gives NFL combine gear to homeless woman
Video link:
Malik Willis on viral video of him helping someone in need before combine workout
Faust
MVP
If the Lions don’t take Malik Willis, they should pass on QB this year
Daniel Jeremiah: Lions Drafting Malik Willis Has 'Potential of a Big Pay Off'
Steelers Tabbed As Frontrunner To Select Liberty’s Malik Willis By NFL.com’s Lance Zierlein
Liberty's Malik Willis believes he should be first QB taken in NFL draft
Daniel Jeremiah: Lions Drafting Malik Willis Has 'Potential of a Big Pay Off'
Steelers Tabbed As Frontrunner To Select Liberty’s Malik Willis By NFL.com’s Lance Zierlein
Liberty's Malik Willis believes he should be first QB taken in NFL draft
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
The Willis to Steelers stuff makes no sense. If you think he is the first QB taken he is gone way before the Steelers draft. The Steelers don't have the draft capital to make sense to move way up, particularly given there many needs. They are also still thinking about winning this year. Willis is not going to help this year.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I know nothing about this QB but I see him mentioned going as early as the 1st Round to a QB needy team.
What attributes does this guy bring to the table? Would you want him drafted in the 2nd as a potential long term back up with the possibility to start towards the end of his 1st few seasons, not an immediate starter?
What attributes does this guy bring to the table? Would you want him drafted in the 2nd as a potential long term back up with the possibility to start towards the end of his 1st few seasons, not an immediate starter?
seahawk 17
Footballguy
Thanks for the hot take.JohnnyU said:
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Ilov80s
Footballguy
For sure but I think the Falcons would be talking to the Jags to jump the Lions and to ensure they don't get double jumped.
rockaction
Footballguy
Think they're moving up to the 1.01 even after signing Mariota today? Seems unlikely, but you never know. Could very well be. Occam would probably say "no," though this is the NFL Draft we're talking about.
-OZ-
Footballguy
As much as I like MM and hope he succeeds, he does make a good bridge until Willis is ready and only has the two year contract. Signing him doesn’t mean they wouldn’t draft Willis if they like his potential enough. I don’t see them making the deal jump up but stranger things have happened.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yep. I'm talking solely about jumping up to get him in the draft. The more I think about it, though, as opposed to my original comment, the more teams may have to do just that.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Mariotta is a stop gap - I’m not saying they will move up but if they did love Willis, Mariotta isn’t stopping them from getting him.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, I didn't make clear I was thinking about them moving up in the draft, not that Mariota would be the be-all end-all of their quarterback situation.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Thinking about this just a little more, it seems smith may have even told MM that they were considering drafting Willis and MM would be an ideal stop gap / mentor. Ryan wouldn’t have been as much. Two year contract gets him the playing time to show what he’s got while Willis develops.
otoh, they’d be better off drafting top 2 next year and ending up with young or stroud.
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Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Brent Sobleski@brentsobleski
Incoming draft class is fascinating because seems to be heavier emphasis on raw potential than translatable traits. They're not necessarily one-in-the-same. Prospects like Willis, Walker, Penning, etc. present HUGE upside but they're much further behind on developmental curve.
Incoming draft class is fascinating because seems to be heavier emphasis on raw potential than translatable traits. They're not necessarily one-in-the-same. Prospects like Willis, Walker, Penning, etc. present HUGE upside but they're much further behind on developmental curve.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yea. As others have mentioned MM is a bridge since Willis might not be ready right away. Also he’s a good emergency plan in case a deal to get Willis isn’t able to be made.
Plus I think Mariota might be a good (yet lesser athletically) match for style of play to Willis. Mobile and athletic so the offense could be installed and give Willis a year to get comfortable while playing the same style. It makes sense to me.
greenmountaingoat
Footballguy
Possible landing spots/ teams that need a long term answer at QB. In general, I believe that a few of these needy teams are going to fall in love with one of what I'm guessing will be considered the big 3 (Willis, Corral, Pickett) and trades to get into the top 10 will happen. Once picks 6-11 are on the clock there's going to be a lot of pressure on the QB needy teams to jump into the fray.
1.01 Jax- no but would probably trade down if some team wants this spot bad enough for a QB.
1.02 Detroit. Not sold that they're ready to jump in on this class but maybe. Could sit behind Goff. Maybe they're high on one of the other "big 3" in Pickett or Corral. Hunch is they're waiting on one of the Stroud/Young/Richardson or whomever.
1.03 Houston. Feels like they're content to Mills and chills for this year? They might like the 23 class.
1.04 Jets- no
1.05 NYG- (from Bears)- One more year of Daniel Jones under Daboll. For whatever reason I find myself higher than most on this working out. As a Patriots fan, Joe Judge's involvement gives me great pause. Again, 23 class note applies here.
1.06 Carolina- Maybe! Word is that Willis is going to likely sit for a year so they may not be . But again, Pickett or Corral might be the move. Or punt to 23 but they're in the conversation for jumping in the pool of '22 QBs.
1.07 NYG- covered.
1.08 Atlanta- Prime landing spot for Willis as has already been mentioned. Arthur Smith might covet the skills and with MM to sit under for a year plus, this could be the setup he needs to succeed. Who knows though if this is the direction.
1.09 Seattle. I see it mentioned as a landing spot but I'm not sold on Pete wanting to go down the "draft a high ceiling development guy." For better or worse, I get the vibes that Seattle is going to try to compete this year and set themselves back 2 years on an eventual rebuild.
1.10 Jets
1.11 Was- Have to imagine that if one of the "big 3" falls to this pick, they'd be mighty tempted if one of them is here at this pick. By this time, Rivera will have met Wentz and already be looking to move on.
1.12 Minnesota- no
1.13- Houston. again, no
1.14- Baltimore, no
1.15, 16, 19- Philly no. They may not be sold on Hurts long term but this is not the class to overpay for a QB.
1.17 LAC- lol
1.18 NOS- I think they're going to be choosy about splashing on a QB draft. But Jameis knows he's a placeholder at this point and he's always good with eating W's when it's another QB doing the work.
1.20. Pittsburgh- On a pod, heard that they think highly of Willis. Pittsburgh is a well-run team so whatever the decide will probably be smart.
1.21 NEP- no
1.22 GB- rofl at the mere idea of how this would go over. Get that man a WR.
1.23 AZ- no but that whole
1.24 Dallas- no but I can see them taking a flyer mid rounds this year or next.
1.25 Buffalo- no
1.26 Tenessee- Not sure how many years Tannehill has left. 33 in QB years is like 27 in RB years, non Brady division. It's too soon to look at a 1st considering they have a lot of other needs.
1.27 Tampa- no way they aren't all in on win-now. Trask last year.. no way.
1.28 GB- Get that man another WR.
1.29 Miami- whatever
1.30- KC no
1.31- Cincy no
1.32- Detroit- If one of the top 3 falls this far, they'd have to look at taking the leap on Pickett or Corral but I don't see it happening.
No first round picks- Denver, Cleveland, Chicago, LAR, Vegas, SF
Indy might have found the guy for a bit of a run. But they're going to need a QB in a year or two.
1.01 Jax- no but would probably trade down if some team wants this spot bad enough for a QB.
1.02 Detroit. Not sold that they're ready to jump in on this class but maybe. Could sit behind Goff. Maybe they're high on one of the other "big 3" in Pickett or Corral. Hunch is they're waiting on one of the Stroud/Young/Richardson or whomever.
1.03 Houston. Feels like they're content to Mills and chills for this year? They might like the 23 class.
1.04 Jets- no
1.05 NYG- (from Bears)- One more year of Daniel Jones under Daboll. For whatever reason I find myself higher than most on this working out. As a Patriots fan, Joe Judge's involvement gives me great pause. Again, 23 class note applies here.
1.06 Carolina- Maybe! Word is that Willis is going to likely sit for a year so they may not be . But again, Pickett or Corral might be the move. Or punt to 23 but they're in the conversation for jumping in the pool of '22 QBs.
1.07 NYG- covered.
1.08 Atlanta- Prime landing spot for Willis as has already been mentioned. Arthur Smith might covet the skills and with MM to sit under for a year plus, this could be the setup he needs to succeed. Who knows though if this is the direction.
1.09 Seattle. I see it mentioned as a landing spot but I'm not sold on Pete wanting to go down the "draft a high ceiling development guy." For better or worse, I get the vibes that Seattle is going to try to compete this year and set themselves back 2 years on an eventual rebuild.
1.10 Jets
1.11 Was- Have to imagine that if one of the "big 3" falls to this pick, they'd be mighty tempted if one of them is here at this pick. By this time, Rivera will have met Wentz and already be looking to move on.
1.12 Minnesota- no
1.13- Houston. again, no
1.14- Baltimore, no
1.15, 16, 19- Philly no. They may not be sold on Hurts long term but this is not the class to overpay for a QB.
1.17 LAC- lol
1.18 NOS- I think they're going to be choosy about splashing on a QB draft. But Jameis knows he's a placeholder at this point and he's always good with eating W's when it's another QB doing the work.
1.20. Pittsburgh- On a pod, heard that they think highly of Willis. Pittsburgh is a well-run team so whatever the decide will probably be smart.
1.21 NEP- no
1.22 GB- rofl at the mere idea of how this would go over. Get that man a WR.
1.23 AZ- no but that whole
1.24 Dallas- no but I can see them taking a flyer mid rounds this year or next.
1.25 Buffalo- no
1.26 Tenessee- Not sure how many years Tannehill has left. 33 in QB years is like 27 in RB years, non Brady division. It's too soon to look at a 1st considering they have a lot of other needs.
1.27 Tampa- no way they aren't all in on win-now. Trask last year.. no way.
1.28 GB- Get that man another WR.
1.29 Miami- whatever
1.30- KC no
1.31- Cincy no
1.32- Detroit- If one of the top 3 falls this far, they'd have to look at taking the leap on Pickett or Corral but I don't see it happening.
No first round picks- Denver, Cleveland, Chicago, LAR, Vegas, SF
Indy might have found the guy for a bit of a run. But they're going to need a QB in a year or two.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Good work out. Loved the way he carried himself. It seemed his team was invested in him and you could see why. It "looks" like he is a natural leader. I look forward to what happens on draft day and the NFL for him.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
I think he goes top 5. to whom i'm not sure.
rockaction
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
How many spots up the draft does a QB move if he smiles during his pro day? Asking for a friend.
sheerterror
Footballguy
Another chance for JD to reverse mistakes and undo the Darnold move up trade for a similar haul in return.
massraider
Footballguy
Jets gonna take Kyle Hamilton at 4, you know this, right?
rockaction
Footballguy
Yenrub
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Kiper had him going #2 to Detroit in his latest mock - take that with a grain of salt of course but Hamilton is a talent and could be an impact player. Once again the whole “impact position” v BPA argument comes into play.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Good article, great breakdown, very interesting.
Can Malik Willis Translate His Tools Into An Effective NFL Quarterback?
...In 2021, Willis had 1,189 rushing yards with 12 touchdowns as an actual runner, excluding sneaks and lost sack yards that the NCAA counts as rushes. Per Sports Info Solutions, he broke 28 tackles and forced 52 missed tackles with 672 yards after contact. Among all college players with at least 100 rushing attempts in 2021, none had more missed and broken tackles per attempt than Willis.
Those two traits on their own are tantalizing and they’re what coaches and evaluators will hang on to as they project what Willis could be in the NFL...
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Go to the link for the full read complete with charts/graphs.
Can Malik Willis Translate His Tools Into An Effective NFL Quarterback?
...In 2021, Willis had 1,189 rushing yards with 12 touchdowns as an actual runner, excluding sneaks and lost sack yards that the NCAA counts as rushes. Per Sports Info Solutions, he broke 28 tackles and forced 52 missed tackles with 672 yards after contact. Among all college players with at least 100 rushing attempts in 2021, none had more missed and broken tackles per attempt than Willis.
Those two traits on their own are tantalizing and they’re what coaches and evaluators will hang on to as they project what Willis could be in the NFL...
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Go to the link for the full read complete with charts/graphs.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Good short-list for Malik Wills to be included on.
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Donnybrook
Footballguy
Sometimes you shouldn't overlook the obvious. I am sure there are teams still regretting not taking QBs like Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen with their obvious raw physical talents.
I also don't think the goal for any NFL team should be terrible 2 years in a row. QB college ranking can change drastically over a year. Lions at this point should swing for the fences and draft Willis. Just like house prices, it seems like QB prices just keep rising.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
assuming hutch goes 1.01, I’ll take Thibodeaux and Coral over Willis and Dean or whomever is BPA. But Coral probably won’t be there at 32 and I’d pass on QB this year.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I won’t even pretend to know how to evaluate this weird QB class. If the Lions think one of these QBs is the real deal, they need to do whatever it takes to get him. However, I do feel very comfortable going DE-WR-S to start the draft. If the Lions can go Thibo/Walker then Pickens then Cine it would probably be an ideal start to the draft for me.
