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Remember when, around a year ago, a lot of people complained that this forum skewed left? (2 Viewers)
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HellToupee
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HellToupee
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Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
What part? That he's the Superman of the PSF? Didn't realize how much he was idolized by you guys.
The Commish
Footballguy
I just looked up ironic and the definition used "Tim calling someone pompous" as an example. I am glad no one ever accused me of using big words.
you cant make this up
calling someone else pompous
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quick-hands
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The left doesnt forgive. He taught turn the other cheek.
On the left here is no individual redemption only collective.
Navin Johnson
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Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
Probably the most shocking thing about this thread is that people actually believe that Jesus was a Conservative.
The last time we had a come-to-Jeebus thread about the PSF it was suggested that mods be given the power to force users to ignore other users. (I wish I could remember who came up with the idea to give them credit).
If they implemented this for like a dozen people it would make the forum about 80% better. (Or at least more readable)
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quick-hands
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Who said that?
It may be that conservatives embrace more of Christ teachings.
Not that Christ is conservative.
But he is not a ledtists liberal
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Doug B
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Sure..this forum doesn't skew Left...
....neither does anything else!  
These people are laughable!!
Check out the sycophant, Lawrence O'Donnell.
....neither does anything else!  
These people are laughable!!
Check out the sycophant, Lawrence O'Donnell.
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Navin Johnson
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Not shocking at all, really. It's what drove me away from the church. I doubt most conservatives ever read their bibles.
Doug B
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I've seen calls for higher levels of discourse here from time to time. So far, however, there hasn't been a critical mass of interest -- from both participants and moderators -- in seeing that through.
Navin Johnson
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quick-hands
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Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
I'm pretty sure during the day, Christ would have been considered one the most leftist, of the leftist liberals.
I'm not really a "churchy" kind of guy...but I don't see God "turning the other cheek" very often.
As a matter of fact....he's been known to smite quite a bit and for some pretty minor offenses!
Turning Lot's wife into a pillar of salt for simply looking over her shoulder? jeez.
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identikit
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quick-hands
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Ramblin Wreck
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It's pointless. You either get called a racist or a sexist. Or anti-Science. Or whatever nonsense term someone wants to use to attack you when you state your opinions.
Or you get asked for a link (by the same useless posters that rarely provide links). If you don't provide a link, you get accused of trolling. If you do provide a link, the liberal mob here decides if the link is good enough for them. If it's not, then you have the source police patrolling all the threads. Rinse and repeat
Also, all the troll posts like every gun thread has to have some poster that isn't funny but thinks he is make a comment about seat belts. Those guys aren't there to debate anything. They just want to push their agenda on everyone and then if you don't agree you're out to murder everywhere, don't care who gets shot up, etc.... How many times do we have to go through the same cycle to see it's never going to end? And the posters many would claim are the "good" posters are the worst culprits.
Herb
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There. I'm genuflecting before your greatness. Is that what you need? Sheesh. There are some pretty snide and arrogant posters around here, but you don't need to turn it into a competition.
ETA: Apologies for making a post about another poster, I'll get this guy on ignore as soon as I can figure out how to do it on my phone...
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supermike80
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From the guy who seems to feel it's his duty somehow to comment about how great he thinks people's posts are. Or how smart he thinks someone is.
you cant make this up
calling someone else pompous
Like posters are craving the stamp of approval from him.
timschochet
Footballguy
Max! I’m glad that you’re OK. Always enjoyed our debates and discussions and it’s great to hear from you.
Doug B
Footballguy
Your concerns about what can kill debate are legitimate. A much different moderation structure would be required.
timschochet
Footballguy
They were quite frequent, spread out all over the place, but especially in any thread where moderation was discussed.
identikit
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Chaz McNulty
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Bottomfeeder Sports
Footballguy
Bottomfeeder Sports
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bigmarc27
Footballguy
Well, I’ll ask broadly... where do you (or whomever “moderates” this forum) draw the line on what is ok here because it seems inconsistent at best, and pointed at worst.
Max Power
Footballguy
Those moderation threads were unreadable.
I'll just say I dont recall many threads trying to be steered towards policy discussions.
@Maurile Tremblay has written a lot on this.
The line is we ask that people keep it safe for work and PG rated. We used to say if it wouldn't be allowed on ESPN TV, we ask they not do it here. Basically we ask people to be excellent to each other. That's a blurry line but most people know where that is.
We obviously don't want anything racist or sexist or bullying or hateful or violent. But even the lesser things like condescending and snark are things we'd rather not have.
That's the tough part of moderating as it's not always super clear.
And few people ever agree what they did was over the line. It was like the guy who posted recently about how he was unfairly suspended for doing nothing more than daring to disagree with the mainstream view. When in reality he was suspended for telling the other poster "F you". But when we're not here to correct stuff like that, their story gets taken as reality.
The moderators are human and consistency is a challenge for sure. I'm not sure what you mean by "pointed" but in my opinion they do a good job for a thankless and no win task. You've provided a good example of that. Our folks do their best to create a forum and your opinion is "I’d say your community is act 3 of Lord of the Flies right now and Piggy is running out of time.". Clearly, we aren't making everyone happy. But we'll continue to try and do our best.
dkp993
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It's not just your opinion Joe, lots of us feel this way. And I say this as someone who has recently received, what I considered, a heavy handed* suspension. It's an impossible job and if you're doing it right you're likely making everyone angry.
*to be clear I'm not throwing shade or crying "unfair", just inserting my opinion.
Thank you @dkp993 I fully admit I'm likely over protective of our moderators as I do think they do a good job with a tough thing and I tire of folks ragging on them.
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IvanKaramazov
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Ramblin Wreck
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Shula-holic
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MLB TV? Was anyone watching when Dan Plesac went off script last night? I asked my wife, did he just say that and she wasn't paying attention. I had to get on Twitter and indeed he had.
rockaction
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In response to the OP (I am also coming off of a compelled hiatus), I think he's not all wrong. I think we're forgetting how many people that were prolific and daily posters from the independent/progressive side of things have essentially left the PSF for greener pastures. Henry Ford, SID2006, Ramsay Hunt Experience, Koya, and others, don't much post much here if at all anymore, and that's not to mention the Bucky86s and that sort of ilk that got suspended, banned, or decided they couldn't run roughshod over everyone and also left. The people that don't post here anymore are a Who's Who of left-wingers and zingers, also frustrated with what they felt was immoderate moderating or not enough moderating or whatever have you. They took their ball and went home, so to speak.
But yeah, I know this has devolved into typical moderating gripes and I'm not here to add or detract from that. I'm only here to point out a bunch of prolific left-of-center posters have left, and it seems like conservatives stepped into and among their shadows.
But yeah, I know this has devolved into typical moderating gripes and I'm not here to add or detract from that. I'm only here to point out a bunch of prolific left-of-center posters have left, and it seems like conservatives stepped into and among their shadows.
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timschochet
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I miss them all. SaintsinDome as well ( not a liberal, but anti-Trump.) I can think of many others.)
It does not matter. Christ was not a racist so would never say a racist phrase like white privilege.
Bottomfeeder Sports
Footballguy
"But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs."
There's no question that Jesus' symbolism here depicted Israelites as God's children and this woman—or her child—as a "little dog;" not even as a person. However, Jesus was not trying to be hurtful. He was comparing the nature of God's relationship with His chosen people Israel to those in the rest of the world who practiced pagan idolatry. He said this to prove the woman's humility and faith, knowing He will shortly reward both (Matthew 15:28).
Of course, I wasn't there so I have to rely on the interpretations of others...much like the Liberals do with the MSM.
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