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Who do you trust in television news? (1 Viewer)

timschochet

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Most of the talk around here about television news and opinion shows is who people don’t trust, and anecdotes as to why they don’t trust them. I thought I’d reverse that by asking the opposite question: who DO you trust? I’m going to throw out a few plausible names, in no particular order: 

Lester Holt 

Jake Tapper 

Brett Baier 

Wolf Blitzer 

Steve Kornacki

Chris Wallace 

There’s plenty of others but you get the idea. These are the “non-opinion” guys- at least that is their reputation. Remember that the question here is not which ones you like the best, it’s this: if these guys report news, particularly POLITICAL news, do you trust what they report? 

 
Asking me to rank TV news personalities feels kind of like asking me to rank my favorite radio DJs.  It would have been normal for a person to have opinions on this sort of thing 30 years ago, but that seems like a totally different era compared to today.
I’m not asking you to rank them. I’m asking you if you trust what they say when they report political news. 

 
Some more names: 

Shephard Smith 

Chuck Todd

Andrea Mitchell 

Stephanie Ruhle 

John King 

Dana Bash 

Gloria Borger 

 
Are you saying you think they’re all lying to you? Or that you simply don’t watch? 
I don't watch much mainstream media news, a little local news. We know many actually do lie, but I just think they all have an agenda and pick the stories to reflect their views.  How inaccuracies or misconduct is addressed is totally hypocritical based on their views. 

 
I’m rural and cut the cable, so the only channel I get is PBS (other than Netflix, Hulu, etc), 

So, I’ll go with Judy Woodruff.

Straight news, no glitz, no glam.

 
Very few if any on that list are reliable--especially any who work for CNN.

It's not the person..the person will regurgitate whatever their company dictates and will support their biases or be shown the door.  

Duh

 
Very few if any on that list are reliable--especially any who work for CNN.

It's not the person..the person will regurgitate whatever their company dictates and will support their biases or be shown the door.  

Duh
:goodposting:   They all just read from a teleprompter.  Good grief.

For the sake of agreement these are the ones I watch in order of trust.

Judy Woodruff

Katty Kay

Nora O'Donnell

Lester Holt

 
I’m in the same boat as @IvanKaramazov.  I almost never watch any TV news except, like, on Election Day or if there’s a specific event.

I primarily get news from The New York Times, Politico, and POTUS radio.  I trust them all for the most part, even though nobody is perfect.

 
Your first list was excellent.  Those are all the tv guys I trust the most.  Chris Wallace is an interesting case study.  Sometimes I think he tends to be too contrarian at times.  And he can be a bit of a jerk, especially to women.  He had a nasty on air exchange with Katie Pavlich last year that was so bad that someone had to intercede and basically tell him to calm down.  But he does seem to pride himself on facts, which was actually why he erupted at Katie.

 
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Great idea @timschochet. Could quibble with a few of your names, but will add a few of my own:

Jonathan Ferro

Joe Weisenthal (his Odd Lot's podcast is really good)

Ali Velshi

Steve Liesmann

 
If National news is on its Muir and only because ive left it on after local and I prefer our local  ABC people to the other stations.

But trust?  Sort of just know what you are going to get and treat any of it with appropriate skepticism

 
Is there another first world democracy where a large percentage of the population doesn’t trust the mainstream media?  

This seems like a uniquely American problem driven largely by a tribalist two party presidential system of government. 

 
Honestly, I feel Newsmax has been the best in terms of the audit in Arizona. They have been fair and even called out a few things they didn't agree on.

I am love Gateway Pundit. 

MSNBC is total crap.

 
Is there another first world democracy where a large percentage of the population doesn’t trust the mainstream media?  

This seems like a uniquely American problem driven largely by a tribalist two party presidential system of government. 
Great question.  I believe we only have seen this in countries like North Korea, Communist Russia and China.  So that should tell you something about the "mainstream media" in THIS country.

 
Most of the talk around here about television news and opinion shows is who people don’t trust, and anecdotes as to why they don’t trust them. I thought I’d reverse that by asking the opposite question: who DO you trust? I’m going to throw out a few plausible names, in no particular order: 

Lester Holt 

Jake Tapper 

Brett Baier 

Wolf Blitzer 

Steve Kornacki

Chris Wallace 

There’s plenty of others but you get the idea. These are the “non-opinion” guys- at least that is their reputation. Remember that the question here is not which ones you like the best, it’s this: if these guys report news, particularly POLITICAL news, do you trust what they report? 
I would trust Baier and Wallace because Trump didn't like them on a right wing channel.  I have seen Lester Holt in Chicago, he's fine.  Hard to trust Blitzer because of the channel may want him to report something slanted.  I don't know Tapper or Kornacki.

 
Shep, and that's it.

He's the only show currently on that shares strictly facts. No pundits, no opinions, no bull####.

It's like a large scale production of your local late night news, but covering national topics.

 
Great question.  I believe we only have seen this in countries like North Korea, Communist Russia and China.  So that should tell you something about the "mainstream media" in THIS country.
I think the issue is the tribalism that the mainstream media feeds.  And that tribalism is born from identity politics on steroids that is a byproduct of a failing two party presidential democratic system.   

 
Honestly don't remember the last news show I watched. Not for any other reason then I like reading more I guess. 

That and real life just being way way too busy. 

 
I’m good with most named by Tim + George Stephenopolous’ (sp)’ show.

funny nobody trusts any conservative news - or afraid to name them

 
Watch Nora O’Donnell whenever I get a chance. Fared Zakaria is solid Respect Chris Wallace but rarely watch. There are some guest commentators I really enjoy/ enjoyed. Charles Krauthammer ,  Bill Kristol, Kirsten Powers and Ana Navaro

 
Watch Nora O’Donnell whenever I get a chance. Fared Zakaria is solid Respect Chris Wallace but rarely watch. There are some guest commentators I really enjoy/ enjoyed. Charles Krauthammer ,  Bill Kristol, Kirsten Powers and Ana Navaro
You know what guest I trust, funnily enough, on the Wallace show? Karl Rove. He’s a sleazy guy, and I mostly disagree with him on issues, but there are very few better at political analysis. 

 
I am entertained by Anderson Cooper and Rachel Maddow. Who do I trust in TV nowadays? Maybe Fareed, maybe Nora. But on a scale of one to Walter Cronkite, those folks might rank around a two. 

 
I only trust Ron Burgundy and the Channel 4 Action News Team!

There is no one else you can trust. And I mean that literally. You can actually trust a fake news team more than you can the actual news from the mainstream media.

I also wear Sex Panther for the ladies. 60% of the time, it works EVERY time.

 
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Your first list was excellent.  Those are all the tv guys I trust the most.  Chris Wallace is an interesting case study.  Sometimes I think he tends to be too contrarian at times.  And he can be a bit of a jerk, especially to women.  He had a nasty on air exchange with Katie Pavlich last year that was so bad that someone had to intercede and basically tell him to calm down.  But he does seem to pride himself on facts, which was actually why he erupted at Katie.
Yeah, she was wrong, IIRC

 
Yeah, she was wrong, IIRC
Not really.  Her point was that witnesses weren’t called by the Senate in the Clinton impeachment.  Wallace got hung up on the semantics of her statement that the witnesses were called in the House.  Wallace then went on a rant about how the witnesses weren’t called in the House but were called by the IC.  Perfect example of someone getting lost in the weeds of insignificant distinctions and completely missing the main point of her argument, which was that this was the first time witnesses were called by the Senate.  It’s the type of silly semantics we see in here all the time.  Pavlich mopped the floor with him on that debate and he came across looking like a little brat.

 
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Not really.  Her point was that witnesses weren’t called by the Senate in the Clinton impeachment.  Wallace got hung up on the semantics of her statement that the witnesses were called in the House.  Wallace then went on a rant about how the witnesses weren’t called in the House but were called by the IC.  Perfect example of someone getting lost in the weeds of insignificant distinctions and completely missing the main point of her argument, which was that this was the first time witnesses were called by the Senate.  It’s the type of silly semantics we see in here all the time.  Pavlich mopped the floor with him on that debate and he came across looking like a little brat.
Agree to disagree.

 
"You're brainwashed"

"No, you're brainwashed"

And we all lose.

Having faith in credible news outlets, having faith in our government institutions, having faith in our intelligence community, these are things that are help anchor democracy. That doesn't mean we shouldn't question people at institutions, we absolutely should. But when the line is crossed into saying everything is "Fake News" or that the intelligence community can't be trusted that's where you start to erode democracy.

Who is it that was always claiming "Fake News" and who said that we can trust Russia more than our intelligence community? I can't remember but it was someone pretty high up, I'll see if I can find a link.

 
"You're brainwashed"

"No, you're brainwashed"

And we all lose.

Having faith in credible news outlets, having faith in our government institutions, having faith in our intelligence community, these are things that are help anchor democracy. That doesn't mean we shouldn't question people at institutions, we absolutely should. But when the line is crossed into saying everything is "Fake News" or that the intelligence community can't be trusted that's where you start to erode democracy.

Who is it that was always claiming "Fake News" and who said that we can trust Russia more than our intelligence community? I can't remember but it was someone pretty high up, I'll see if I can find a link.
Which is funny because now you guys are saying you can trust Russia since Putin said some nice things about Biden.

 
Regardless he should’t have snapped at her like that on the air.  Very unbecoming and unprofessional.
I watched it live.

Saw it more as he wanted things to be accurate and truthful for the viewers.

I like Katie, but she doesn't always have her facts straight.

Again, we can disagree, gb

 
Oh, yeah, they're good too.  Especially Krystal.  ESPECIALLY Krystal.  :thumbup:
@BladeRunner

Thought of you today, GB.  I was listening to the 6/28 podcast today, and Krystal's monologue about the country's changing attitudes towards Socialism, even in the Republican party.  

 
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