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Given New Rules . . . Perfect Game? No Hitter? Neither?


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The home team pitcher goes all nine innings without allowing a base runner but heads into extra innings a scoreless tie. 

For starters, the visiting team gets a runner on second to start the 10th inning automatically. Sacrifice, sacrifice fly for a run, strikeout ends the inning. Home team does not score and loses 1-0. 

Would this count as a perfect game (no batter reached base safely), a no hitter (no hits were allowed), or neither (as the team did not win the game)?

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I think pitchers have “lost” no-hitters before, so in my book it’s still at least that, no question. Pitcher went a complete nine+ inning game and did not allow a hit.

No batter reached base safely and if the scoring aspect is not specifically mentioned, just tacitly implied, then my vote is it’s  a perfect game too, even if the name doesn’t really fit.

There needs to be a better name for it. A perfect game should be 81 pitches, 81 strikes, 27 up, 27 down, no hits, no errors, etc. etc., nobody even puts a ball in play.

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On 7/20/2021 at 1:06 PM, FairWarning said:

Ed Whitson pitched a no-hitter vs the White Sox and lost 4-0.

Harvey Haddix of the Pittsburgh Pirates pitched 12 perfect innings but lost 1-0 in the 13th inning.  

No perfect game, not a no hitter, no shutout and lost the game.   Still one of the greatest pitched games in MLB history though...

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8 hours ago, Godsbrother said:

Harvey Haddix of the Pittsburgh Pirates pitched 12 perfect innings but lost 1-0 in the 13th inning.  

No perfect game, not a no hitter, no shutout and lost the game.   Still one of the greatest pitched games in MLB history though...

What a great lineup he faced also.  

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