If this is how you think that works, then i see why you feel that way. They are mutually exclusive, if they arent tied together in some way.
that’s not “how I think” that works, it’s objectively, factually how it works.
if you take Amari Cooper there, then pick Dak, Amari Cooper is going to score points & Dak is going to score points.
and.if you take Allen Robinson there instead, then Dak, then Allen Robin is gonna score points & Dak is gonna score points.
But your ability to roster both Dak & Cooper is no more valuable than being able to roster Dak & ARob if Cooper & ARob are scoring similarly. But the fact that one or the other is on your fantasy team together will not make Dak more valuable to you.
the only relevant thing is that your WR & your QB will score points at those two positions. If you get a “double TD” it makes zero difference as compared to Dak throwing a TD & ARob catching one on the same day.
In a high producing offense, one could assume the leader of that offense will put up a lot of points, yes? So the alpha targets in that offense also benefit, yes? So having some correlation there is helpful, no?
Obviously you are targeting a good WR in a good offense, but it makes no difference to Dak’s value in this topic question.
You are targeting the most valuable WR available on the board in that round. Period. If you think it’s Lamb, take Lamb. If you think it’s Cooper, take Cooper. If you think it’s ARob, you pick ARob. Those are the players you're measuring against each other (and whomever else at that draft position when the pick comes to you) and not one thing in that decision process impacts the question, “which of Dak or LJax is the better pick” in the subsequent rounds.
And if you took Lamb, then take Dak, it doesn’t help your team more than taking LJax. What matters is that
1. lamb out-performs the other WRs you could have taken
and
2. Dak outscores LJax
the “stack” adds no value to this equation. None. It’s a myth. The very concept is applicable to single day fantasy contests where players from one team facing a perceived weak opponent are worth using em masse. In the context of a redraft league that concept is diluted, and may even be a disadvantage in bad defensive matchups.
if you choose to believe in it, I won’t judge you for it. But saying the ability to “stack” either Cooper or Lamb gives some kind of edge to picking Dak seems like magical thinking to me.
Im not arguing Cooper/Lamb and Dak don't have individual value, they absolutely do. But if you think that offense is gonna pop off, why not have as many pieces of it as possible? Its not 100% applicable across all wr/qb combos, but id argue with the elite pairs its absolutely an advantage.
You’re just saying it’s good to have high scoring players on your team. Obviously that’s something we can agree on. The uniform they’re wearing is irrelevant to that statement.
Investing in lots of players from the same team also increases risk, as when Dak went down last year & all of the Cowboys weapons downgraded thereafter.
If you can take comparable production at WR and then decide Dak is worth taking over LJax, then the resulting roster should score similarly while diversifying.
Getting a double TD is fun. But the Passing TD & the Receiving TD are worth exactly the same regardless of the player passing or receiving, or if it happens simultaneously or sequentially. I see no advantage to stacking. And if someone takes an inferior player off the board to get the stack, I would deeply question that decision, since again, the stack adds no corresponding value.
I also gave my opinion about if stacking wasnt something you were worried about, so *shrugs*
I’m not worried about it. I just think it’s illogical as a premise.
Im not arguing that it makes anyone more or less valuable, and if thats what you thought, then i understand your confusion. was only pointing out that if you wanted that correlation in your lineup, how you could attain it according to the current adps.
The topic is which QB would you take and why. You said that you’d want Dak because you could stack him with one of Cooper or Lamb. Is that not an implication that it would be the more valuable strategy, thus supporting your decision?
I think a guy that is gonna potentially throw 45+ tds this year, having an alpha target you can have in a very real scenario according to adp is an enticing option, thats all
In general, I won’t disagree. But it’s irrelevant to whether or not you take Dak or LJax.
as I said, you could take either QB and any WR combo. All that matters is that you’re taking the two who you believe will score the most at their ADP. But that’s why they're valuable, not because you have a stack.
OK. We can pretend you werent being snarky and condescending in your reply, and I will move on. Good luck
well no need to pretend, because I wasn’t at all. I was merely pointing out what I saw as an irrelevant logical disconnect suggesting that being able to “stack” Dak with some other player would somehow make him more valuable & put you over the top in the choice between Dak & LJAx.
It wasn’t snarky in the slightest. It was matter of fact, and I even said there’s another topic where folks are debating if “stacking” is an advantage in redraft & indicated that topic as where such a discussion belongs.
I don’t see it as being relevant to this topic at all. That you chose to “retaliate” from some perceived snark by calling out my week-old opinion about a trade in another topic seems like not the best option to advance a discussion, but we all have our style.
have a nice day.
