bigbottom
Footballguy
I’m not a fan of the idea, but I can’t imagine booing through the song, much less having fun doing it. But you do you.
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Black National Anthem is Here to Stay (1 Viewer)
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Agreed. You might get some pockets of fans in certain cities booing it, but I doubt it will catch on and become a thing. At least I hope it doesn't.
DropKick
Footballguy
Mile High
Footballguy
Would probably be better if they went to the concessions stands so they can then be back to their seats so they can then all stand with their hands over their hearts during the national anthem.
Mile High
Footballguy
DropKick
Footballguy
Mile High
Footballguy
I would be against that. They play lots of songs before a game. Only one they ask you to stand for one. They can announce and point it out if they want and if some want to stand, fine. But to ask people to stand for it seems wrong.
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squistion
Footballguy
DropKick
Footballguy
There is a certain pomp and circumstance around the anthem; an on-field display. etc. If you play the song at the beginning of a game, I suspect the songs would be done back-to-back, much like the Canadian/US anthems at a hockey game.
Of course, baseball does a 7th inning stretch, which provides another opportunity. The start of the second half seems like the only "other" option in a football game.
crackattack
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm not standing for that. I find it disgraceful to try and equate the two.
squistion
Footballguy
I don't think people are really equating the two, no more than LGBT+ folks are equating the rainbow flag with the stars and stripes.
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whoknew
Footballguy
Sports viewership ratings are down across the board.
"Since each restarted play, the N.B.A. playoffs, N.H.L. playoffs, Major League Baseball regular season and playoffs, United States Open tennis, United States Open golf, Kentucky Derby, Preakness and college football have all had ratings declines of at least 25 percent compared with 2019."
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So the conclusion you want to make - that this is a direct result of them supporting equality clauses - seems highly dubious.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Imagine not standing during it. You would be called a racist. But when blacks kneel and sit during the REAL national anthem they are "brave" and held up as models of progress.
Utter nonsense. MLK is turning over in his grave at all of the work he did now being thrown out the window. Blacks are now asking for segregation. Unbelievable.
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DropKick
Footballguy
Seems like a convenient take in an age when the nation struggles with important issues like pancake boxes, Mr. Potato Head, or whether "gypsy moth" (an invasive species) is a racial slur.
They literally call it the Black National Anthem. And it's played right after the National Anthem.
rockaction
Footballguy
I think it's played like an hour before. Or was last year.They literally call it the Black National Anthem. And it's played right after the National Anthem.
On another note, I could really care less, so long as I don't have to be inundated with social justice stuff throughout the telecast.
I’m sure Liberals would stay intellectually consistent and say “no big deal, it’s your right to do that.”
rockaction
Footballguy
Oh boy. Cannot wait for that. Nobody will be spared the justice.
Amazing how corporations have decided that us plain folk need a re-education while they think they're above the fray. Hey, corps, don't forget that back around the time of the Constitution, your powers were limited. Greatly.
Those are 2020 numbers in a covid 60 game season. The numbers for MLB are turning around, for instance MLB ratings for FOX Saturday Baseball: Up 32% compared to 2020 season, and MLB ratings for Fox Sports 1 broadcasts: Up 78% from same stretch during 2020 season. NBA playoff ratings have been terrible.
They’re scared ####less and don’t want to rock that boat (pun intended). Very few things will get a corporate executive fired. Being on the wrong end of a racial controversy is high on that list.
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Mile High
Footballguy
No mention of playing the black national anthem before every game.
The league wants to showcase the Black national anthem in all “tentpole events” moving forward, said another source. That will include the Super Bowl, NFL Playoffs, NFL Draft, and NFL Kickoff game.
https://frontofficesports.com/nfl-social-justice-2021-stadiums-signage/
The league wants to showcase the Black national anthem in all “tentpole events” moving forward, said another source. That will include the Super Bowl, NFL Playoffs, NFL Draft, and NFL Kickoff game.
https://frontofficesports.com/nfl-social-justice-2021-stadiums-signage/
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BladeRunner
Footballguy
Unbelievable.
Sorry, MLK, you lost. The new "progress" is division, segregation, payback and revenge.
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NFL will play the ‘Black National Anthem’ before every game in 2021
“Lift Every Voice and Sing,” widely recognized as the “Black National Anthem,” was written over 120 years ago by James Weldon Johnson
The NFL has announced it will play the Black National Anthem, “Lift Every Voice and Sing,” before each game in the 2021-22 season as part of a $250 million investment towards social justice.
The league will also continue many of the social justice initiatives implemented last season, including featuring messages of antiracism and unity on helmets and the field, and communicating to fans through signage and public service announcements, per reports by Front Office Sports.
The multi-million dollar investment is part of the NFL’s Inspire Change initiative, advised by rapper and business mogul Jay-Z.
“Lift Every Voice and Sing” was written by civil rights activist James Weldon Johnson and composed by his brother John Rosamond Johnson in 1900. Per the NAACP, the song became a “rallying cry” for Black Americans during the Civil Rights Movement of the 1950s and 60s.
This is not the league’s first time acknowledging the song — an Alicia Keys performance of Lift Every Voice and Sing was featured before the playing of The Star-Spangled Banner at Super Bowl 55 in February, during which players from the Kansas City Chiefs and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers linked arms in solidarity.
Although it didn’t happen until the Super Bowl, the NFL considered implementing the song as early as week 1 of the 2020 season. Jacksonville Jaguars player Chris Conley responded to the league’s early considerations when news first broke last June.
“The league taking the opportunity to play “Lift every voice and sing” (the black national anthem) is sweet. It’s a great way to honor those who started this movement year and years ago,” Conley tweeted.
“For those who aren’t familiar with it, this song seeks to remind us of our past as a country and to strive to be better,” he continued. “It speaks to all of us not just black people even tho it became a rallying cry for blacks in the Jim Crow era. It is a beautiful message birthed from pain.”
He closed the series of tweets by refuting those who claim the song is divisive, saying it isn’t just for Black people to acknowledge, but for anyone who wants to “press toward a better future.”
The NFL heavily increased its commitment to racial justice issues in 2020, responding to the Black Lives Matter movement as well as the backlash directed toward the league for its handling of peaceful protests such as the kneeling popularized by Colin Kaepernick in past years.
“We, the National Football League, believe Black lives matter,” said NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell in a video released last June addressing racial injustice. “Without Black players, there would be no National Football League, and the protests around the country are emblematic of the centuries of silence, inequality and oppression of Black players coaches, fans and staff.”
Last August, Goodell also appeared on Emmanuel Acho’s Uncomfortable Conversations With a Black Man YouTube show, addressing the league’s handling of kneeling and other peaceful protests against racism.
“We have never disciplined a single player for anything with the national anthem, in violation. And I don’t intend to. I will support,” Goodell said.
Other national sports leagues have also increased their efforts toward the cause, such as the NBA’s Board of Governors which committed $300 million toward Black economic empowerment over the next 10 years.
The MLB also announced on Monday that it is contributing $150 million to increasing Black representation within the sport of baseball.
“Lift Every Voice and Sing,” widely recognized as the “Black National Anthem,” was written over 120 years ago by James Weldon Johnson
The NFL has announced it will play the Black National Anthem, “Lift Every Voice and Sing,” before each game in the 2021-22 season as part of a $250 million investment towards social justice.
The league will also continue many of the social justice initiatives implemented last season, including featuring messages of antiracism and unity on helmets and the field, and communicating to fans through signage and public service announcements, per reports by Front Office Sports.
The multi-million dollar investment is part of the NFL’s Inspire Change initiative, advised by rapper and business mogul Jay-Z.
“Lift Every Voice and Sing” was written by civil rights activist James Weldon Johnson and composed by his brother John Rosamond Johnson in 1900. Per the NAACP, the song became a “rallying cry” for Black Americans during the Civil Rights Movement of the 1950s and 60s.
This is not the league’s first time acknowledging the song — an Alicia Keys performance of Lift Every Voice and Sing was featured before the playing of The Star-Spangled Banner at Super Bowl 55 in February, during which players from the Kansas City Chiefs and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers linked arms in solidarity.
Although it didn’t happen until the Super Bowl, the NFL considered implementing the song as early as week 1 of the 2020 season. Jacksonville Jaguars player Chris Conley responded to the league’s early considerations when news first broke last June.
“The league taking the opportunity to play “Lift every voice and sing” (the black national anthem) is sweet. It’s a great way to honor those who started this movement year and years ago,” Conley tweeted.
“For those who aren’t familiar with it, this song seeks to remind us of our past as a country and to strive to be better,” he continued. “It speaks to all of us not just black people even tho it became a rallying cry for blacks in the Jim Crow era. It is a beautiful message birthed from pain.”
He closed the series of tweets by refuting those who claim the song is divisive, saying it isn’t just for Black people to acknowledge, but for anyone who wants to “press toward a better future.”
The NFL heavily increased its commitment to racial justice issues in 2020, responding to the Black Lives Matter movement as well as the backlash directed toward the league for its handling of peaceful protests such as the kneeling popularized by Colin Kaepernick in past years.
“We, the National Football League, believe Black lives matter,” said NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell in a video released last June addressing racial injustice. “Without Black players, there would be no National Football League, and the protests around the country are emblematic of the centuries of silence, inequality and oppression of Black players coaches, fans and staff.”
Last August, Goodell also appeared on Emmanuel Acho’s Uncomfortable Conversations With a Black Man YouTube show, addressing the league’s handling of kneeling and other peaceful protests against racism.
“We have never disciplined a single player for anything with the national anthem, in violation. And I don’t intend to. I will support,” Goodell said.
Other national sports leagues have also increased their efforts toward the cause, such as the NBA’s Board of Governors which committed $300 million toward Black economic empowerment over the next 10 years.
The MLB also announced on Monday that it is contributing $150 million to increasing Black representation within the sport of baseball.
It’s before every game according to yesterday’s Yahoo article above.Unbelievable.
Sorry, MLK, you lost. The new "progress" is division, segregation, payback and revenge.
BladeRunner
Footballguy
That's terrible. Like I said - MLK valiantly tried but ultimately failed. His message is now being rejected across the board.
it appears the US is now adopting the "South Africa" strategy on race relations.
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dozer
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Mile High
Footballguy
Sure the person who wrote that says it, but no mention of them playing the black national anthem before every game in the article they got their information from.
https://frontofficesports.com/nfl-social-justice-2021-stadiums-signage/
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BladeRunner
Footballguy
Asking for a separate National Anthem isn't segregating?
Also, I know you haven't been living in a cave so when I say "blacks asking for segregation" I know that shouldn't surprise anyone who's been alive for the last decade or so.
Here's an example: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51506733
But there are MANY more.
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squistion
Footballguy
To repeat what I said in my OP:They literally call it the Black National Anthem. And it's played right after the National Anthem.
To clarify, the rainbow flag is considered the flag representing LGBT+ folks (by those in that minority group) and it has been flown in US embassies along with the stars and stripes (and in many other places) but I have to hear any LGBT+ person say the two are to be treated equally and accorded the same respect by all people.
DropKick
Footballguy
FairWarning
Footballguy
bigbottom
Footballguy
Of course it’s your right not to stand. I can’t imagine anyone thinking otherwise.I’m sure Liberals would stay intellectually consistent and say “no big deal, it’s your right to do that.”
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squistion
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
lol. fair enough, I get what you are doing. I guess as someone who has argued about definitions, I can appreciate it on some level.
Charlie Steiner
Footballguy
I'm good with Everyday People by Sly and the Family Stone as our new national anthem:
Sometimes I'm right and I can be wrong
My own beliefs are in my song
The butcher, the banker, the drummer and then
Makes no difference what group I'm in
I am everyday people, yeah yeah
There is a blue one who can't accept
The green one for living with
A fat one tryin' to be a skinny one
Different strokes for different folks
And so on and so on and scooby dooby dooby
Ooh sha sha
We got to live together
I am no better and neither are you
We're all the same whatever we do
You love me you hate me
You know me and then
You can't figure out the bag I'm in
I am everyday people
There is a long hair
That doesn't like the short hair
For being such a rich one
That will not help the poor one
Different strokes for different folks
And so on and so on scooby dooby dooby
Ooh sha sha
We got to live together
There is a yellow one that won't
Accept the black one
That won't accept the red one
That won't accept the white one
Different strokes for different folks
And so on and so on and
Scooby dooby dooby
Ooh sha sha
I am everyday people
Sometimes I'm right and I can be wrong
My own beliefs are in my song
The butcher, the banker, the drummer and then
Makes no difference what group I'm in
I am everyday people, yeah yeah
There is a blue one who can't accept
The green one for living with
A fat one tryin' to be a skinny one
Different strokes for different folks
And so on and so on and scooby dooby dooby
Ooh sha sha
We got to live together
I am no better and neither are you
We're all the same whatever we do
You love me you hate me
You know me and then
You can't figure out the bag I'm in
I am everyday people
There is a long hair
That doesn't like the short hair
For being such a rich one
That will not help the poor one
Different strokes for different folks
And so on and so on scooby dooby dooby
Ooh sha sha
We got to live together
There is a yellow one that won't
Accept the black one
That won't accept the red one
That won't accept the white one
Different strokes for different folks
And so on and so on and
Scooby dooby dooby
Ooh sha sha
I am everyday people
Godsbrother
Footballguy
If it upsets you guys so much let the NFL know about it and stop watching games.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
I think this will be another nail for the NFL for sure
But people can still talk about the racism involved behind it can't they ?
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Sure, people are free to talk about whatever they like.
I read the lyrics and I don't see anything racist about them. Apparently what has so many people up in arms is that some people refer to the song as the black national anthem.
I don't love the fact that they are playing the song because there are people that let this kind of stuff bother them, just like the kneeling fiasco. It is just one more thing for people to whine about.
If I were running the NFL I wouldn't play this song or the National Anthem. They have nothing to do with football and no matter what you do, you're going to p*** people off. Best to avoid the whole mess.
Yenrub
Footballguy
Wait what about the Carrie Underwood "waiting all day for Sunday night song"? How could we ever have Sunday night football without it?
Stealthycat
Footballguy
again, there is no black national anthem nor can there be because "black" isn't a nation
Godsbrother
Footballguy
DropKick
Footballguy
The national anthem has been played at sporting events for over a century. Typically, it is a show of patriotism and national pride. I enjoy the energy and unity of a live anthem. During an olympiad, we've seen athletes from many nations overcome by emotion during the playing of their respective anthems.Godsbrother said:
Today, the flag and the anthem have become politicized. I would be greatly disappointed to lose yet another part of our culture. People, such as yourself, have become indifferent. Some believe it is a meaningless ritual. I guess that is another thing in the eye of the beholder.
For the record, I don't believe people care about the semantics of "Black National Anthem"... However, when you play the songs side by side, you have set up this comparison, which is contentious and counter-productive. My thought would be to play the song at the start of the second half or possibly between the 3rd/4th quarter.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I believe playing the National Anthem at the Olympics is appropriate since the athletes there are representing the country.
This is not the case for professional sports where the game is a business.
I am not indifferent to the National Anthrm but as you say it has become politicized to the point that I think it is bad business to play it or at the very least televise it.
If I were running the NFL I would want to do away with the playing of it but of course that would be bad business too. Their best decision in my opinion would be to play it before the players are on the field and before the TV cameras are turned on.
Amused to Death
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